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diulei
Thu 11/10/05, 2:09PM
How long did you have to ride around for the bike to start up properly afterwards? I was an idiot and left the keys in the ignition the other night and now the battery's dead. I successfully push started it and rode it around for 30 mins or so in the neighborhood, then grabbed my gear and went for another 20~25 minutes, came back, shut the bike off and it won't start again. So just wondering how long I should have ridden it around.

Pushing the bike up that hill is damn tiring.

{PMS}fishy
Thu 11/10/05, 2:22PM
If you drained the battery all the way, it might not recharge.

If you have a battery charger, that would be a better bet then trying to let the bike do it.

I'd guess it would take a good few hours to do.

Kurt'sSV
Thu 11/10/05, 2:51PM
Yeah, it won't recharge very well by just riding it when the battery is drained that much. You'll have to hook a trickle charger up to it, or take it to one of those auto parts stores that recharges batteries for free.

And yes, it ain't easy to push start an SV.

diulei
Thu 11/10/05, 4:08PM
I'm pretty sure that the battery isn't 100% drained, I think I only left the keys in the ignition for 90 minutes or so (after dinner I went out for a ride and that's when I noticed).

The lights are also turning on right now, but I think I'm just going to buy a trickle charger and take out battery and charge it. Gotta deal with the stripped screw on the seat first though.

Thanks for the help anyways guys.

No_Brakes23
Thu 11/10/05, 8:03PM
Delcati did the "Oops keys in park position" when he first got his Ducati 750SS. It was like that for about 10 hours. We eventually got it bump-started and he rode it for an hour. It was fine after that.

luv
Thu 11/10/05, 8:35PM
YOu might want to consider a battery tender instead of the standard trickle charger. Maybe the guys here can illuminate any tech differences.

THe tender I use has a semi permanent clip that attaches to the battery. WHen I park the bike I fish the lead out from under my passenger seat to plug it in. Very conveniant way to keep the battery at a full charge.

-luv

http://www.kneedraggers.com/img2/tend-jr.gif

NukleoN
Sat 11/12/05, 3:36PM
When I did that to my SV I just borrowed a trickle charger...used it at work (where my bike was stranded) and then re-installed my battery and rode home the next day. :D

acer66
Sat 11/12/05, 6:19PM
once i left the park light for a little to long on, drained to battery all the way down, jump started it, rode 30 miles on the freeway never had a problem with the battery

stingray
Sat 11/12/05, 6:48PM
charger/tender's the way to go. bump starting a twin is PITA.

if it drains all the way, start thinking about getting another battery.

this past season i kept putting it off and it finally crapped out on me when i needed it to run. good thing it was only practice.

benz_bikes
Sat 11/12/05, 8:17PM
I was working on an old Honda v45 (V4 engine) this morning (1:30am)and it stalled with a dead battery. That is a real PITA to bump start. I have never had to push the SV (knock on wood)

mojo mofo
Sun 11/13/05, 10:26AM
Make sure that when you run the biek you aren't just putting around the neighborhood. You need to ride for an extended (minimum 45 minutes I would guesstimate) at a relatively high rpm 6k+...think highway mileage.

sugart!ts
Sun 11/13/05, 10:39AM
i had to bump start once, and i did it all by myself!!!! :D .. not fun!! rode it home after that (about 45 min) it was fine the next morning..

Delcati
Mon 11/14/05, 5:16AM
How old is your battery? It sounds like it might of took a dump on you too. I did it twice with my 750SS and both times it was fine after running for like 20 minutes, with no highway riding. And the one day I had to left the battery on for 12 hours.
Just a thought.

diulei
Mon 11/14/05, 3:12PM
Well the bike is an 04 so it's not much older than a year. It's holding a partial charge as the lights do come on.

I got myself a charger so I'm going to take out the battery. I think when I was riding around town I wasn't going fast / keeping the RPMs high enough. I've read that I should be above 5,000 for the battery to charge and wasn't over that much.

Thanks for all the input though!

chrissilverm
Mon 11/14/05, 11:13PM
lead acid battery chemistry is pretty old school. running the battery to below 8-9 volts is bad for the overall life and charge cycles of the unit. (some manufactures this = death) storing a battery at low charge is also death sentance. i keep waiting for the lion batts for my bike.

diulei
Tue 11/15/05, 1:33PM
Well I posted a few days ago about my dead battery, so I decided to get a charger.

Problem is, a little over a month ago I tried installing a new seat but one of the hex screws was in there way too tight and I couldn't get it to budge and ended up stripping it in the process. I put it off thinking I could live without the new seat for a while.

Now, seeing as how I have to get the seat out to get to the battery, I'm kind of stuck.

I got some screw extractors, drilled a little hole into the screw, put the extractor bit in and, of course with my luck, it still wouldn't budge.

I slowly turned the torque settings up, and in the process of my carelessness, the freakin drill bit actually snapped.

So now I have a dead battery, stripped screw, and half an extractor bit sticking out of the screw. :mad:

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

cucamonga
Tue 11/15/05, 1:37PM
Is there any way to work the extractor bit out with pliers or did it snap close to flush with the hex bolt?

Darth Lefty
Tue 11/15/05, 1:40PM
Cut the seat off, get a new seat... Not ideal but it's a possibility.

SVNerd
Tue 11/15/05, 4:13PM
diulei - I assume that the bike is rideable (?).

You could come by my place, and I'd be glad to take a look at it.

PM me if you're interested.

diulei
Tue 11/15/05, 8:53PM
Thanks for the offer, what part of SD are you from?

SVNerd
Wed 11/16/05, 8:11AM
diulei - I sent you a PM.

diulei
Thu 11/17/05, 1:53PM
UPDATE:

Drove to the bike dealer/shop today to see what they thought about my screw situation. They told me to bring it in sometime, so I'll probably do that within a week or so.

After seeing all those bikes on the showroom floor I really felt like riding, so I push started it again (only took 1 try now that I've figured out how to do it), and rode around on a relatively straight stretch a little while where the speed limit is 50. I was doing roughly 50~60 in between red lights, remembering to keep the RPMs above 5,000, came home and voila, the bike starts up. So the battery seems OK, now I just gotta get that screw out. Good to know at least I can still ride it around.

Anyways, I appreciate all your input. Hope the bike shop has some luck with the screw.