Autobahnraser

[acer66]

some crazy guy on a autobahn http://www.socalsvriders.org/modules.php?set_albumName=albut76&id=autobahnraser&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

[Zombiesai]

ooof ....a few rough landings there...especially at around 200km/h...I'm sure his forks love him.

[whiteav6]

ahh.. he doesn't have shit on my man GR!

[mcbandit]

aftermath here:
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/7345/10101290dl.jpg

[Chris_az]

beware, above link is pretty nasty.

thanks.. mcbandit, i'd hate to think someone would be innocently eating dinner and checkin the board at the same time, ya prick.

[Buck]

Originally posted by Chris_az
beware, above link is pretty nasty.

thanks.. mcbandit, i'd hate to think someone would be innocently eating dinner and checkin the board at the same time, ya prick.

Wow McDude,

Not only is that way harsh, but your "Cruisers are Gay" line is a little offensive. There are more than a few Gay members here, so you might want to tone that way down.

[mcbandit]

okies

Chris - Eat it bitch, you know you like it.

[o4trix]

Originally posted by CB
Wow McDude,

Not only is that way harsh, but your "Cruisers are Gay" line is a little offensive. There are more than a few Gay members here, so you might want to tone that way down.


+1

[Buck]

Originally posted by mcbandit
Cruisers are Homo

Ok,

Kudos for the effort, but Homo and Gay are somewhat (ok, almost completely) synonymous. Maybe something that doesn't single out a sector of society.

Thanks!

[acer66]

Originally posted by mcbandit
aftermath here:
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/7345/10101290dl.jpg

link doesn`t work for me
not sure if i want to see that anyway :(

[reepest]

299 that's almost 186mph too fast for me:eek:

[havanahjoe]

Lane splitting at 130 kph and using the shoulder to pass slower traffic (on the right)... Was he sure there was no debris? :S

[SVNerd]

Insane.

The 100-120 mph wheel stands were impressive - nuthin' but sky !

It appeared as if the speedo pegged at 299 kph (about 186 mph) ...

[bloodclot]

Originally posted by Buck
...... There are more than a few Gay members here, so you might want to tone that way down.

Originally posted by Buck
Ok,

Kudos for the effort, but Homo and Gay are somewhat (ok, almost completely) synonymous. Maybe something that doesn't single out a sector of society.

Thanks!

jesus christ people, can we drop the "let be super nice to gay people" thing already? queer eye for the strait guy isnt cool anymore and this PC crap is getting kind of old.

nobody pipes up when someone makes an offhanded comment about a mullet-havin', wife-beater-wearin', tobbaco-chewin', redneck nascar fan. they are a "sector of society" too. but GOD F***ING FORBID, someone making a comment using the word gay in a less than revered manner.

i realize that they are the new little pet sub-culture of the overly liberal whiners that couldnt shut their mouths even if you wired their jaws shut. but please give it a rest already. they dont need you to stick up for them every time someone say "thats gay" or "you are such a homo" on the internet. they are big boys and girls, they can take care of themselves. and if they are so emotionally unstable that they cant handle a stupid comment on a stupid website and let it roll off their backs, then they deserve to be mocked. (not for being gay, but for being a freaking sissy)

anyways, as far as the video in this thread goes, i dont even have to watch it to tell you that the guy in it is a douche. and anyone who thinks this retard is cool for what he is doing should be ashamed of themselves. this +180MPH though traffic crap belongs in the movie, and nowhere else. people like this deserve to get into accidents.

[morbidelli17]

Ya know, it's not a coincidence that it's almost always people in privileged positions in society telling others to "not be so sensitive. See, we can take it when others make fun of us. Why can't you?"

Because ethnic, religious, and gender slurs are ways that we reinforce societal power stratifications. No one jumps to the defense of the person being called "cracker" because, hell, in U.S. culture, you're pointing out that they are part of the power structure. They need no defense.

Think of any insult or slur that describes male, straight or white people that has the emotional impact of "nigger" or "faggot" or "whore."

Can't, huh?

Matter of fact, when you want to really insult a straight white male, you have to label them as people who aren't white, aren't straight or aren't male.

This is what I mean when I say slurs tell us who sits in society's "privileged positions."

Cracks like "white trash, redneck," etc. carry a reminder that the butt of that joke belongs to the cultural majority. And as someone once pointed out, a "cracker" can get a job, put on a suit and no longer be "white trash." At what level of income, education or fame is a gay man no longer a "faggot?"

Use whatever language you want; but understand what language does. As George Carlin says, "We think in words. Words shape our reality."

And btw; "It's just a joke" translates as "It's OK to laugh at this group of people."

p.s. Words like "liberal" and "whiner" get trotted out when it's time to abandon logic, bypass the brain and head straight for the emotional sucker-punch. Such words serve the function of shutting down rational debate and substituting emotion for thought. When you can no longer logically argue with the message, it's time to launch a personal attack on the messenger; "liberal" and "whiner" are two of the favorites of the day.

On the bright side, I got my picture and my race bike into RRW this month. Woo-hoo!

[codzilla70]

Really Morbid what page? Congrats!!=D>

[bloodclot]

Originally posted by morbidelli17

Think of any insult or slur that describes male, straight or white people that has the emotional impact of "nigger" or "faggot" or "whore."

Can't, huh?

i will take that challenge and defeat it with a word that you just used yourself several times. privileged.

while you might not think of it as a slur or and insult, it infuriates me nearly to the point of violence when someone refers to me as privileged. as if to say that i was handed everything i have in life because im a white male.

no one gave me shit. i worked for everything that i have and none of it was any easier because i am white. in fact, i can think of several things that i was NOT eligible for and that were NOT given to me, simply because i am a white male. show me a scholarship created explicitly for, and available only to, caucasion males. you cant.

so sling your "fight the power" cliches elsewhere, because they dont apply to the son of an ex-convict who skated the poverty line his entire childhood and did his best to keep his nose clean until he turned 17 so that he could join the military and make something of himself. (man, that is one hell of a run-on sentence lol)

with very few exceptions, i have absolutely zero sympathy for someone who FAILED succeed in life. there are always avenues of forward progression, even if they are not easy. all it requires is dedication.




p.s. Words like "liberal" and "whiner" get trotted out when it's time to abandon logic, bypass the brain and head straight for the emotional sucker-punch. Such words serve the function of shutting down rational debate and substituting emotion for thought. When you can no longer logically argue with the message, it's time to launch a personal attack on the messenger; "liberal" and "whiner" are two of the favorites of the day.

the words liberal and whiner are descriptions (and accurate ones, at that) of the people who perpetuate this "touchy-feely, lets be nice to everyone so they dont get their feeling hurt" culture that we have today.

i have not abandoned logic. they have abandoned common sense and they are dragging us into a socialist state of government where the lazy and incompetent are supported by able bodied and foolish. but that is another subject all together.....

one thing i can tell you is this. if you cant take things with a grain of salt and consider the source of some of the stupid things you hear people say. you will never get anywhere worth going in this life.


On the bright side, I got my picture and my race bike into RRW this month. Woo-hoo! [/B] grats :D

[morbidelli17]

First, congrats on beating the odds stacked against the poor in this country. Nothing in this life comes easily to anyone, and dedication is, indeed, ultimately the only difference between failure and success. As Woody Allen and George Bush both said, "90 percent of life is just showing up." (Perhaps the only time these two agreed on anything.)

"Privilege" is relative. Perhaps your position in life isn't as privileged as some. But ask yourself, with all honesty, what if you'd come from the exact same economic and familial background - and were a gay male? The military wouldn't have even been an option for you to 'make something of your life'. Being straight, in this culture, at this time, gives you "privilege."

Just because there are no explicit "programs" designed to benefit a particular ethnicity doesn't mean that society doesn't offer privileges to those who are members of that ethnic group. Generally, those are things we don't see, the things that are invisible to us because they're never an issue. Oxygen is no big deal until it's not there. Ask your wife/girlfriend how they feel walking to their car at night alone in a dark parking lot, and recognize that as a male in this culture, you have the "privilege" of rarely, if ever, experiencing that fear. Hopefully, you will never know the fear in the gut of a law-abiding minority when they see the red lights come on in the rear-view mirror; that's a "privilege" you have. (And please don't hand me me that "If you're innocent, you have nothing to fear" crap; I've spent decades as an investigative reporter, and the innocent have as much to fear as anyone. You want names and dates, I'll happily give them to you). If you happen to be arrested for a crime, you'll are less likely to be charged, and if convicted, you'll be sentenced to less time. (Statistically, you're less likely to be stopped in the first place.) You're more likely to be approved for a home loan. You're less likely to be audited. And those are just a couple that jump to mind immediately. Someone published a list available online of the things that being straight, white and male in our culture means you never have to experience. You should check it out. That's "privilege."

I'm not suggesting you didn't work for what you have. But understand, in the U.S. in 2006, some people are more "privileged" than others - whether they want to be, or whether they want to admit it. It's not your fault. Shit, be grateful it worked out the way it did for you, and be sensitive to those who are on the short end of the stick.

In re: liberal, et. al.; It appears to me as though your definition of "liberal" is anyone who disagrees with you politically. If you think only "liberals" want to ban speech that hurts people's feelings, mention "flag-burning" and watch conservatives scream how this type of "free speech" is disrespectful, insulting, insensitive, unpatriotic, and should be banned as "politically incorrect." If you think only "liberals" support welfare, check the tax code and see who the biggest welfare recipients in our culture really are.

I also note that you didn't address the actual statements that I'd made. In your response, you illustrated precisely what I was talking about. I'm still waiting to hear a factual rebuttal to my contention that in this culture, to insult a straight white male, you must label them as not straight, not white, or not male.

Peace and take care.

[svmaxs]

:eek: :eek:

I hit a squirrel today....scared the shit out of me. Watching that video, I'm thinking 'man he sure seems to have control of that bike' but then I think ' what about the stuff he has no control over' like: debris in the shoulder, reaction of the other drivers...squirrels

[morbidelli17]

Originally posted by codzilla70
Really Morbid what page? Congrats!!=D>

I think it's like page 76, or something. Article's called something like "Looking For Respect: Back to School" (Think Rodney Dangerfield, and you kinda get a pretty accurate image of me going around a racetrack ... :)

[KyleThompson]

I agree with you morbid, and agree with bloodclot as well.

I think that people over use the term liberal. It amazes me how people connect liberal with political ideology sometimes, is wanting rights for everyone a liberal idea? Is believing that the richest country in the world has an obligation to its own people before others a liberal concept? I don't think so, i think its a logical concept. And it infuriates me when people dismiss me as "an unrealistic liberal", "go fuck yourself" that's usually what I like to respond with.

If there are stigmas and prejudices that are at the core of our country and society, isn't it the "fair" thing to do when you root for the underdog?

I admit that I have led a privileged life style, two loving parents, being raised in a wealthy area with exceptional schools and social services, not experiencing poverty or starvation, and I am truly grateful for it all. And at the same time I understand that if I was born into another lifestyle that things probably wouldn't be the same. And that's why I choose to reject the idea that everybody equal in America, that everyone can succeed if they want to. I don't think we've made yet as far as becoming a totally equal society, so why pretend that we are?

When I get in discussions with people about welfare the common argument against the system is "what about all those welfare queens just sitting on their asses and sucking the government dry?" I usually ask them to point them out to me, they can't, and I explain to them the definition of the word propaganda.

I believe that in the United States people should be taken care of by the government if they are facing a disadvantage from society. Affirmative action is a good example, I'm not saying its fair, but it seems to be the most fair thing to do in contrast to the uphill battle that minorities face in a white America. Its not fair to the employer because if they are racist then they can't hire all white people.

Racism is a right I think, no matter how fucked up it may seem, if the government protects individuals ideologies, then they have to protect everyone's, take the good with the bad. Thats why there is no law against being a nazi, or holding a KKK rally, or being a pedophile, as long as there aren't overt actions that affect others freedoms, there is no problem.

this should be moved into a political thread, if there are any on a motorcycle forum.

[bloodclot]

Originally posted by morbidelli17
First, congrats on beating the odds stacked against the poor in this country. Nothing in this life comes easily to anyone, and dedication is, indeed, ultimately the only difference between failure and success. As Woody Allen and George Bush both said, "90 percent of life is just showing up." (Perhaps the only time these two agreed on anything.)

"Privilege" is relative. Perhaps your position in life isn't as privileged as some. But ask yourself, with all honesty, what if you'd come from the exact same economic and familial background - and were a gay male? The military wouldn't have even been an option for you to 'make something of your life'. Being straight, in this culture, at this time, gives you "privilege."

Just because there are no explicit "programs" designed to benefit a particular ethnicity doesn't mean that society doesn't offer privileges to those who are members of that ethnic group. Generally, those are things we don't see, the things that are invisible to us because they're never an issue. Oxygen is no big deal until it's not there. Ask your wife/girlfriend how they feel walking to their car at night alone in a dark parking lot, and recognize that as a male in this culture, you have the "privilege" of rarely, if ever, experiencing that fear. Hopefully, you will never know the fear in the gut of a law-abiding minority when they see the red lights come on in the rear-view mirror; that's a "privilege" you have. (And please don't hand me me that "If you're innocent, you have nothing to fear" crap; I've spent decades as an investigative reporter, and the innocent have as much to fear as anyone. You want names and dates, I'll happily give them to you). If you happen to be arrested for a crime, you'll are less likely to be charged, and if convicted, you'll be sentenced to less time. (Statistically, you're less likely to be stopped in the first place.) You're more likely to be approved for a home loan. You're less likely to be audited. And those are just a couple that jump to mind immediately. Someone published a list available online of the things that being straight, white and male in our culture means you never have to experience. You should check it out. That's "privilege."

I'm not suggesting you didn't work for what you have. But understand, in the U.S. in 2006, some people are more "privileged" than others - whether they want to be, or whether they want to admit it. It's not your fault. Shit, be grateful it worked out the way it did for you, and be sensitive to those who are on the short end of the stick.

In re: liberal, et. al.; It appears to me as though your definition of "liberal" is anyone who disagrees with you politically. If you think only "liberals" want to ban speech that hurts people's feelings, mention "flag-burning" and watch conservatives scream how this type of "free speech" is disrespectful, insulting, insensitive, unpatriotic, and should be banned as "politically incorrect." If you think only "liberals" support welfare, check the tax code and see who the biggest welfare recipients in our culture really are.

I also note that you didn't address the actual statements that I'd made. In your response, you illustrated precisely what I was talking about. I'm still waiting to hear a factual rebuttal to my contention that in this culture, to insult a straight white male, you must label them as not straight, not white, or not male.

Peace and take care.

i started to reply to this post, statement by statement. i actually got half way through it. but then i realized that i was putting WAY too much effort into this. :D

here is my position in a nutshell.

first of all, i did addressed the statements you made, you just dismissed my reply as invalid because you dont want to see my point of veiw. being called "privileged" IS an insult to me.

you mentioned things that i "will never have to deal with as a white male". what about the things that others will never have to deal with. how do you think it feels to have the sins of an earlier generation laid squarely at your feet every time someone mentions slavery or the way the indians got screwed over. i had absolutely nothing to do with it. neither did any members of my family, who arrived here in the early 1900's. but i still get locked into the category of the oppressor because of my skin color and the fact that i have a penis.

and i might not have to be scared walking to my car at night, but when was the last time a woman had to stop and think, "wait, did that flirting go too far. is he going to accuse me of sexual harassment....?" if you are going to start talking about the hardships that i dont have to deal with, you might want to mention the ones that i do. as a reporter, you should know that you can make the devil look like a saint (and vice versa) if you only present one side of the story.

and as for my definition of "liberal". it is not just anyone who doesnt agree with my politics. liberal, in todays political lingo, means someone who leans toward the left. and just for the record, i cant stand overly conservative people either. just in case you are wondering, i would consider myself more of a moderate person. i HATE censorship, but i also cant stand people that say stupid things with no thought to how it will effect the future development of this nation, just because they can get away with it.

honestly, i think most people should shut their mouths and mind their own business. but i cant make then do that. just like they cant make me care how someone feels about a stupid word. that the double edged sword we call freedom.

im sure there is something i forgot to put in this post cause im distracted at this moment, but ill probably remember it later. :)

Originally posted by KyleThompson

this should be moved into a political thread, if there are any on a motorcycle forum.

you havnet been here very long, have you ? :lol:

[KyleThompson]

No not long at all, ha.

And I wouldn't say that the responsibility is squarely on the white male perhaps, but I don't think that it's a coincidence that it has been the white male through out history that has always been the demographic that is "in charge" or the one who benefits the most. It just seems that what goes around eventually comes around, and now the tables seem to be turning ever so slightly. White males haven't been enslaved by anyone but them selves in any era I can remember. I tend to focus on the intangible white male rather than an actual hetero sexual male homosapien, of course we can't be blamed for things we didn't do.

I think that people sometimes gloss over the actions of the past. When I talk with my friends, some of them have crazy perceptions of what happened and some know the half-truths. Just because it happened twenty or thirty, or even four hundred years doesn't mean we can't learn from it. If we can learn from the past that occupation doesn't work in the long run then we can avoid situations like that in the future. It scares me when I can't understand the logic of my government and at the same time see a pattern of deception and blatant lies about reasons to go to war. It makes me feel like I'm getting fucked now and can see that I'm going to get fucked again in the future, it pisses me off.

So as a privileged white male at his sexual peak I take offense to the term privileged when use as an insult, but at the same time despise that idea of an elite class that is exempt from consequences and the law. Kind of like in Full Metal Jacket when Joker talks about the duality of man.

[morbidelli17]

I swore to myself I wouldn't say any more on this, but I can't resist. So let me get this straight (pardon the pun). Both of the following statements, from what I understand you guys are saying, are correct:

A) The country is being ruined by "liberals" and "whiners" who don't want me to use certain words because it hurts other people's feelings. They need to shut up, suck it up and get a thick skin.

B) When I am called a certain word (let's call it the "P" word), my feelings are so hurt that I am infuriated nearly to the point of violence. I am sick of being called this word and whoever is using it needs to shut up now.

Uh ...

p.s. I am fully aware that I am among the most privileged people ever to walk the face of the earth. But I sure as hell don't take it for granted - or make the mistake of believing that somehow I chose to be born at this time, in this country, with this gender and sexual orientation. As Dennis Miller says, "If cows had opposable thumbs, they'd be wearing little coats made of humans. Thank your upright walking God things turned out the way they did."

[pAint]

Back to the subject.... the link didin't work for me either. Is that really the aftermath to that vid??

[KyleThompson]

So to drag it on Morbid, it sounds like you can dish it out but can't take it.... your points seem to be contradictory or hypocritical to some degree

[bloodclot]

well see here is the thing. when said as a joke or in a manner not denouncing the effort i have put into attaining the quality of life that i have, it really doesnt bother me. hell, if that were the case, i would never be able to watch a black comedian. ask yourself, when was the last time you turned on BET stand up and no one made a "white guy cant dance" joke. do you think being labeled as chronically lame is somehow enjoyable? but you see that doesnt really bother me, cause i have a little thing called self esteem.

here is the thing though. when someone pipes up defending the poor and wretched masses from the mean bully saying bad words, and then has the audacity to do the same thing to another human being because he feels that person has an easy life and is deserving of those comments, it make me want to slap you and tattoo the definition of hypocrite across your forehead.

basically, it boils down to this. who are you to judge me? ill admit, i was lucky to be born in america, without any serious abnormalities and with the girt of common sense. but that doesnt mean that you have the right to take jabs at me and try to make me look like the big bad wolf just because i dont care if someone gets their feeling hurt on the internet.

(my god, im turning into nuke........:eek: )

oh, and back on topic:

*puts on his best reporter voice*
this just in, the guy in this video is still a waste of oxygen looking for a brick wall to run into.....

:D