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flyinfizzer
Mon 1/2/06, 6:02PM
I've heard of some people converting their first gen's to FI. Doesn't seem that hard, but what exactly is involved? And most importantly, is it worth it?

I'm thinkin about converting my track bike to FI, but if a nicely tuned set up carbs will do the trick then i'll just keep what i have. Right now i just have rejetted stock carbs with shims, desnorkel, blah blah blah and i'm happy with it.

So what sayeth everyone else?

twf
Mon 1/2/06, 8:27PM
not as simple as it may apear.
you can buy flatslides for less than converting to FI and actualy have more power.

flyinfizzer
Mon 1/2/06, 9:11PM
Originally posted by twf
not as simple as it may apear.
you can buy flatslides for less than converting to FI and actualy have more power.

Well i guess that pretty much sums it up right there. Thanks Zoran.

No_Brakes23
Mon 1/2/06, 9:35PM
Plus when terrorists set off EMP devices and most vehicles shut down, the 1st gen SV will be easier to make run again. /tinfoil hat:D

{PMS}fishy
Tue 1/3/06, 6:27PM
Originally posted by twf
not as simple as it may apear.
you can buy flatslides for less than converting to FI and actualy have more power.

I know you like carbs better, but don't you think with bigger TBs, the SV would make more power injected?

twf
Tue 1/3/06, 7:00PM
no with bigger TB's only. you would still need to do motor work.just TB's wont be worth doing.
few things about differences in motor and FI/carbs is reason I like old bike more when it comes to making power.

johnnySV
Tue 1/3/06, 8:39PM
Originally posted by {PMS}fishy
I know you like carbs better, but don't you think with bigger TBs, the SV would make more power injected?

i guess thats maybe where the 41mm FCR's come in handy over the 38mm FCR's. dont know for sure, just talking out my ass. although i do know that te larger size will slow the speed of airflow. what are the performance considerations between 38mm and / or 41mm carbs?

twf
Tue 1/3/06, 9:48PM
39's and 41's are close.

{PMS}fishy
Wed 1/4/06, 7:12PM
Originally posted by twf
no with bigger TB's only. you would still need to do motor work.just TB's wont be worth doing.
few things about differences in motor and FI/carbs is reason I like old bike more when it comes to making power.

I know that. I just thought that the FI was running at 100% duty cycle with only a few motor mods.

I thought the 1st and 2nd gen internals were identical?

twf
Wed 1/4/06, 10:43PM
you can say they are indentical even though parts are all different.
did you get pics?

{PMS}fishy
Thu 1/5/06, 7:38AM
Originally posted by twf
you can say they are indentical even tough parts are all different.
did you get pics?

Yea, I did thanks.

corsastrada
Fri 1/6/06, 10:17PM
I know a guy who could help with this. His name is Stuart and he won the Ducati Monster Challange. I met him at the Long Beach Motorcycle show. The reason he can help is that his winning Monster was a '99 750 Monster, which was originally carborated and he converted it to fuel injection. He would know the ins and outs of the project. His website is www.flightcycles.com He does custom bike building. Basically anything you want he will do.

flyinfizzer
Sat 1/7/06, 12:39AM
Originally posted by corsastrada
I know a guy who could help with this. His name is Stuart and he won the Ducati Monster Challange. I met him at the Long Beach Motorcycle show. The reason he can help is that his winning Monster was a '99 750 Monster, which was originally carborated and he converted it to fuel injection. He would know the ins and outs of the project. His website is www.flightcycles.com He does custom bike building. Basically anything you want he will do.

Interesting...although I think i'm leaning more and more towards carbs for the reasons that Zoran mentioned. Call me old fashioned, but that's just what i prefer. Plus in this case the carbs seem to make more power! :D

corsastrada
Sat 1/7/06, 2:28AM
Not if you have a properly tuned FI system. And carbs can only do there best in one area and then the rest is a compromise. Fuel injection you can tune all areas without making other areas worse. Not so with carbs. If you want top end, your bottom and midrange will suffer, and visa versa.

twf
Sat 1/7/06, 10:49AM
not in case of sv.you can tune that FI muchest you want I will make more power with flats.
cost of putting FI on carb generation sv is not worth money.
bigger throttle bodies on FI sv do help.