Wheelies on SV650S

[Stinky]

Yesterday was the first time I actually set out to practice wheelies. I surprised myself, I thought I was too heavy to do wheelies but I did pretty good. But anyway, the problem is today when I walked around my bike. My freekin license plate was bent like hell and since I did the fender eliminator, the plate light was bent down too and the whole thing got weak.
I thought the rear shock was too stiff? I must be heavy as hell then to compress the rear that much attempting wheelies.
Anybody else have this problem? Any tips other than stopping wheelies? I thought about moving the plate above the rear wheel but if I get pulled over I'll tell the cop I put it there cause when I wheelie it gets bent?
I don't know, I guess I'll try to figure something out. I don't think I'll stop wheelie-ing(in quiet deserted areas of course) though since I'm getting the hang of it.

[Burst]

I am having a hard time visualizing what could have happened that your plate would get bent...?

[Stinky]

It was bent in toward the bike so I figured when I got up on one wheel, the suspension compressed and the wheel hit it. I'm starting to wonder, am I too heavy for the rear shock? I remember now, after I first got the plate, after a day in the twisties, the plate was slightly bent in. I'm around 235lb and I KNOW there are other riders like me on SV's with the stock rear shock. I guess I gotta lose some weight or something. Changing the rear shock is out of my budget right now.

[buymenow00]

I thought about moving the plate above the rear wheel but if I get pulled over I'll tell the cop I put it there cause when I wheelie it gets bent?

Hmmm, I don't think that would be a good idea. Gregg got a ticket for moving his plate over to the side of his bike...and I think you could easily get dinged if you mount the plate forward under the seat and above the wheel (no light in there either), tho' many peeps do it. I think the law states that it must be clearly visible from the rear...pretty much subject to interpretation I guess. You'd probably only get a ticket if you got stopped for something else...or if the guy was really bored.

Oh and when talking to a cop, I don't think I'd ever admit to doing wheelies...it's probably considered "reckless", and you be labeled as a hooligan!

[Burst]

don't move the plate forward unless you know a cop or don't mind moving it back and forth...... If you do get a ticket, it will be a fix it ticket. So you move the plate, get a cop to sign off on the ticket, mail it in and viola.

Several of my relatives are cops, so i don't have to do all the moving around of the plate. but it is still a pain to have to go get it signed off and mailed in......

[bwarbiany]

I'm 270 lbs, and I do wheelies on the stock shock (which is admittedly too soft for people like us), but I've never had a problem... One tip might be to crank your rear preload all the way up to 7 to reduce sag, but I still don't think that should do it...

Brad

[Stinky]

Man, that's weird...anyways. I guess it's just me then.
Yeah, I cranked up my preload too for my fat ass just now. I think it was on 5 or something. I also just finished bolstering my license/fender eliminator assembly because it got jacked. At the same time I raised the license plate up about 3 inches with some minor modding.
I sat on my bike facing the rear while on the pitbull and reached down to the swingarm and tried to compress the shock a little to see how close it got. I have a bit more clearance, but I can see now how it might have hit the plate.
I guess I'll see what happens next time I practice some wheelies.

[linp]

For the life of me, I can't wheelie. Where do you practice? Wanna show me how it's done? I figure it might come in handy when I try to split lane.

[Stinky]

Huh? When you split lane?:confused:
Anyway, I'm not the one to be teaching wheelies. That was the first time I ever rode out just to practice and I was getting them up about 2-3 feet(but felt way too high) I freaked and rolled off each time. But I got the hang of the rhythm of rolling off and on, timing the fork compression and stuff, getting smooth.

[bwarbiany]

Paul...
Okay, here's the simple way... Get the bike up to about 4-5K rpm in first gear (accelerating). Roll off the throttle completely, which will load up the front forks in compression. Once it gets loaded up, crack the throttle, HARD! The front end will come up without trouble. Granted, based on how your bike is set up (mods, jetting, throttle cable), it will be harder or easier. My bike was a pain until I adjusted the throttle cable. But with an SV, you don't need to clutch it, and it should be fairly easy... Good luck, and if you flip your bike, I hold no responsibility ;)

Brad

[ersigh]

I have noticed that heavier people are able to wheelie with more ease on the SV's, cuz' I have a hell of a time getting the bike to rollon, but when my friend Mark does it (he's like 220), he can ride it down the street ... we discussed it, and he thought that his weight might be why it works so well for him.

[bwarbiany]

I think it works both for and against... Since I'm so tall, and so heavy, I'm always riding with my butt up against the rear seat. Otherwise I have nowhere to put my legs ;)

Sitting back like that, with the rear weight distribution, it does help to get the wheel up... But due to the higher overall weight, it's harder to get the acceleration needed to do it. I know when I was lighter, just rolling on full throttle would pull the wheel just off the ground, but now I have to use the close/crack open throttle method to have a chance... Those of you light people should be able to pull it up (not necessarily *WAY* up) just with full throttle in first...

Brad

[ersigh]

My front end will come up, when I take off from a light, if the road is slightly inclined ... otherwise no ... doing a roll on, I can do in first, but i have to sit way back and then it only comes up a little bit ... maybe 4 inches, 6 at most.

I can clutch it but I'm not consistent with it ... I need to just drive down and road and practice practice practice ... I've finally been riding long enough I feel like I can start focusing a bit more on the "squid" stuff ...

[Bugg77]

heh, you said your front end comes up. heh heh

And what do you mean you can start focusing on your squid stuff? What have you been doing all this time?

I'd also like to take some time and get some good wheelie practice in... to bad I don't have much for time these days.

[Burst]

What have you been doing with yourself? Not on the board very often... Not joining us on rides..... Are you divorcing us? And don't give me that "it's not you, it's me" crap! hehehe :D

Seriously though, just been busy with work?
I will prolly end up riding this weekend since I am not going to the races, so if you or anyone else is up for a ride on Sat. let me know.

[Bugg77]

Well for the last week I was in Ohio and couldn't find a way back for the weekend rides ;)

But other than that, it seems like my weekends are never mine to give. I swear I haven't spent 1 weekend at my house for the last 1.5 months!

This weekend is work and a camping/climbing trip but I'm going to have to do something with you guys (and gals) the following weekend... aka July 20th.

[Burst]

we'll see you then.

[neattoes3000]

I love to practice wheelies:squid:

After seeing some jackass do a standing 80mph wheelie on TL1000R, I was jealous. So I started practicing. Leigh, the weight is not a big issue...I can sit near the tank and still GET IT UP:D! If I sit near the back, the front comes up with ease. Call me a holligan! Please? Anyway, if I do the rear sproket, I bet I will havemy hands full keeping the front on the ground. I love torque. Good Luck, don't crash.

Craig

[bwarbiany]

Remember, Craig has a pipe and filter, and rejetting done professionally on a Dyno...

Leigh, you should probably consider a simple rejet, or carb sync, etc... And make sure your throttle cable is adjusted properly (mine was way screwed up from the dealer)... That'll help a lot.

Brad

[ersigh]

I just need the pipe and rejetting. My throttle cable is good to go ... :)

Stand up wheelie @ 80mph ... that's it? I'm used to chasing the guys I ride with ... going max speed, and them still pulling away from me ...

:squid:

[linp]

I figured out one of the things I was doing wrong (ya, besides trying to wheelie) was not shutting off the throttle fast enough to compress the front. I was rolling it off instead. I can do small wheelies some of the time now :) :squid:

[my two bangers]

Ok you guys time for a reply

Ersigh
Just for you

I weigh in at 145lb and have no trouble pulling wheelies. Yes weight does have some thing to do with it but think of this…..all those fat asses out there who brag about how they raise there front end:p , you will most able to hold speed on corners a hell of a lot better than them:D . And be more comfortable on the bike too.

I say if you want to pull wheelies get a bike made for it like a CR 500 or a KTM 640 or some thing like that. Or even better a TL1000. Which I also have ridden loads and it’s a mad bike at that!!!….great for speed too.

The SV650 is a fab bike and a great all rounder. And I prefer it to bigger bikes I ride or have ridden

[Natedawgg]

So who want's to practice wheelies & then ride some obscenely twisty roads with me?

I'm frustrated with wheelies. I can never get it higher than a few inches. Maybe I'll try the roll off/roll on method & sit back further at the same time.

:squid:

[Burst]

CLUTCH IT. It'll come right up. I have not had much luck with the roll on/off/on method either..... The clutch gets the front way up easily and consistently.

[SVSinFV]

Sup Dawgg,

I'm in Orange County, let me know if u want to hit up some roads


Originally posted by Natedawgg
So who want's to practice wheelies & then ride some obscenely twisty roads with me?

I'm frustrated with wheelies. I can never get it higher than a few inches. Maybe I'll try the roll off/roll on method & sit back further at the same time.

:squid:

[Viniteio-181]

Well, Ersigh, you gave me some pointers @ the Gathering, and it appears to have done some good. At roughly 165, I tried again and again to "get it up"...hehehe...to no avail. Then Ersigh reminded me that I'm on a V-Twin, and to start out around 2K after shutting the throttle to get going. I did this in an industrial park about 2 months ago, and it scared the shizzle out of me, cause the damn thing went to an 11o'clock (lil too generous with the throttle) and kept going, and going, and going...until I got my nerve and tapped both brakes to get it down again. I still had a totally stock bike @ the time, so forks bottomed out when I hit from almost a dead stop, almost making me slap the tank and crash... The spectating crowd of kids were pleased, nonetheless. Whew!! Anyway, I haven't done any big ones like that since b/c I wanted to get mods to make them better...like new forks, piping, and rejet. Pop out plenty of baby wheelies, though. I'll probably go out this afternoon and practice since I've got the goods. :D



Yeah, this wasn't the least bit helpful nor interesting to anyone, but I just felt like sayin it. :p

[No_Brakes23]

I am by NO MEANS a wheelie master, but I can get the front end up. It only goes vertical with clutch work, but it will wheelie fine with throttle work.

Stock, it took two blips on the throttle and then a good whack, but since the full-system/jet kit/dyno tune, I get it going fast enough that it doesn't stall and then I roll-on hard. It pops right up.

So if you can't get it up stock, go about 10mph and blip, blip, WHACK. It WILL come up. Most of the magazines have refered to the SV as a "wheelie machine"

Now if I could just figure out stoppies. These MeZ4s just slide.

Anybody good at stoppies?

[kc1717]

yeah, the only bike I could stoppie well was the svs, wheelie, well the r1 will bring it up at 90+ :D :D :D

the only stoppie tip would be to use your thighs to grip the tank because if it goes really vertical your thighs are the only thing to help you hold on. start at 40 squeeze hard while leaning foward, then as it comes up squese the tank harder with your thighs and strighten your arms and look foward. please be careful, stoppies are something to learn very slowly. and they help you get better break control for panic sistuations.

[Punkbrad]

i weigh in at at 215, i have no problem getting it up in first or second. i start at about 10 mph, roll off the gas fast, then blip the throttle, and it comes right up, sitting normal, leaned forward a bit to regulate balance. i have gotten to where i can get up to top speed in first, lay off a hare, and blip it again, to keep it up another few yards.. im no Doug Dumokis, but i can get it up, in second, at abotu 4500-5000 rpms, i pull the clutch fast with only my middle finger (to allow for firm grip) let it rev to 7000 rpms then dump the clutch, it works fine... i dont liek the way they feel though, a bit outta control on the 2nd gear poppers...

i pull it up every chance i get, i love to pop 'em.. im jsut afraid of John Q. Law....

Pb.

[Troy]

I recently started pulling wheelies in 1st gear, correctly, that is. What I was doing wrong was not letting the forks compress all the way, which yielded only a hard-acceleration foot-high wheelie. I was surprised at how easily the front end lifts up when the throttle and forks are manipulated correctly. The landing on my first legitimate one was a little, um, sketchy, due to panicking at how high the front end felt and letting her down hard. Didn't quite brace myself for the sensation of a metal tank colliding with tender organs in the lower region of my body.:-&

:confused: So, I learned to e-a-s-e off the throttle to touch her down, sit an inch or two farther back, and turn my head when I cough.

Troy

[SVixxer]

OK people. You want to learn how to wheelie and stoppie. Click on the link below. I am totally stock, and in one month I could ride out wheelies through third gear. I even rode one with my wife on the back. This guy stunts on an SV and he holds the stoppie speed record. Just check it out. It taught me. :cool:


http://www.garyrothwell.com/Gary_s_Lessons/gary_s_lessons.html

[Troy]

that 12 o'clock wheelie shit is insane!!

[Viniteio-181]

Do wheelies destroy the chain? I know it stretches it, but someone I ride with very often pulls wheelies on his Gix750 as often as he blinks his eyes, and the stock chain has held up after 20,000 miles. I just replaced my chain @ 7K, and the guys told me that wheelies did the damage, but I only popped a handful at most, so that's horses**t. You guys have pulled hundreds more than me, and've got more miles on your bikes.

I think that other factors led to its destruction, (even though it broke after I pulled the 5th wheelie since I owned it) but since I have a brand-new one, I want to get the facts before I go about actively trying to pull them and possibly f'n up the new one. :confused:

[Reddog99]

I don't see how doing a roll-on wheelie could be any harder on a chain than racing the hell out of it. The horsepower transmitted thru the chain to the rear wheel can't be all that much. Now, dumping the clutch, or rolling off then on might be a bit harder because we're dealing with shock loads which will be quite a bit higher than for just rolling it on.

Pat

[Natedawgg]

I still gotta try the blip-blip-WACK! method of wheeling. From a stop, I've been revving up to 7K, and as I let the clutch out , revving it higher. Seen the sky a few times.

As for stoppies, get stickier tires (in my case BT020s....not the stickiest but better than MEZ4), lean foreward putting more weight on the bars, then squeeze the front brake.

:squid:


God I love it.

[calversv]

no blip, blip then wack. that's what i tried in the beginning and it didn't work that well. seemed like i needed to pull the bars. this method, you don't need to.

from stop, ride the bike slowly up to 10mph then close and open the throttle quickly. don't be stingy in openning the throttle from the close position. make sure you close the throttle all the way before openning it up again. once you feel yourself going up, or even too high, don't panick. close the throttle and once you're close to the ground, open it up. this should put your front on the ground smoothly. don't use your rear break or you'll slam your front, right Troy?

[kc1717]

basically you want max torque applied the second your front fork reaches the bottem of its travel. or buy an r1 :)

[Nanduccio]

I've always sorta tried in a chicken-shit sorta way to do a wheelie, but never really got one goin'...

I've yanked on the bars and all, and gotten the wheel up not much at all.

Tonight I tried doing that thing like that guy teaches. I basically rolled out in first gear, then whacked the throttle without yanking the bars at all. I was real light on the front, and slid a little further back than usual.

The bike just came UP!

I was like Holy Shit, this is so cool, and immediately tried to do it again, but then reverted to my monkey yanking ways again. I couldn't get it off the ground again. I think the whole RELAXING thing is key...

Anyway, that shit was cool, yo. I'm like addicted now, because I want that feeling again. It was so cool. I felt so squidy!

In my full helmet with Scotchlite everywhere... what a wheelie geek.

[calversv]

Originally posted by nandooch
...but then reverted to my monkey yanking ways again. I couldn't get it off the ground again. I think the whole RELAXING thing is key...



i would do the same thing from time to time but that's when i'm not comfortable doing a full wheelie - some days i don't feel so brave. have a friend watch you, or better yet, photograph you. what you think is high might not be after all. this would give you a sense of where you are as far as height so you can guage yourself without panicking. when i get my wheel high, i tend to lean into the tank for comfort. leaning back while the front is up gives a false sense that you're going too high.

[Reddog99]

I think the whole RELAXING thing is key...
I've experienced that... When I pull away from a stop I can "feel" if a roll-on wheelie is possible. If I try to analyze it (how fast am I going, what is the RPM, how much is the throttle open?), then all I'll end up doing is winding out first gear. I've found that sometimes I don't open the throttle far enough, too.

Pat

[lil blue02]

Originally posted by Viniteio-181
Do wheelies destroy the chain?

I don't know about the chain but, after 10 000miles (1 season) my front sprocket was chewed all to hell. Definatly wheelie damage.
Also the speedo piece that is in the front wheel had some serious wear to the teeth. I figure 3 more seasons max before it will need replacing.

[ersigh]

I haven't had any noticable wear and tear from doing wheelies (but i have an after market sprocket set) ... and I've been doing them pretty much non stop for the last few months ... :D

It's definately about relaxing, and working w/the momentum rather than forcing it ... sometimes I give the forks a bit of a bounce, but I don't pull up ... I've found the few times I've done that, I'd come up fast and come down hard, sometimes not straight ... it definately stopped me from being able to control the bike as well ...

I've been pretty timid about wheeliing, and don't do them very high ... have been substaining them a little longer lately, but am not even close to ready to try shifting ... when the weather gets better I'm gonna go out and practice .... (there's a HUGE parking lot near my house where people go to donuts and what not ... (cars not bikes... the bikers up here are too kewl for that ...:rolleyes: ) ...) try to get them a bit higher ... try to hit that balancing point so I can substain without losing rpm's so quickly.

[CDAWG]

I wish I could come and ride with you man. But I live in Utah and that could be hard. How much road would you estimate that I would need to complete my first wheelie. I am only 170 lbs and my bike feels strong. Would a K&N do much for my or would I have to do K&N and Rejet? What about my exhaust what do you guys recommend for me. I would like a tough sound, but not to loud that I draw to much attention to myself. Man I love all the chicks that you can get on these things.

Cameron

[BluBallz]

im 250 i figured out how to wheelie on my bike after a few tips from others on the site, clutching in second is actually easier i found from figuring this stuff out. ONE TIP IS TO GIVE YOUR BIKE TIME TO COOL DOWN EVERYONCE IN A WHILE, without the down time your sure to mess somthing up like i did mine, good thing it was covered under warranty. clutching is actually easier than i thought, take it easy through first, then into second give it a good slam and with your index finger pull in the clutch for just a second and let it go and you'll come up... its not to difficult but still be careful.

[GetnJgyWitit]

I think first gear wheelies are easier. Just wait til the motor is warmed up and making good power. Accelerate up to about 20mph or up to 5k rpms. Let all the way off the throttle so the front end dives down then wack the throttle back open and the front end comes rigtht up. :D :squid:

[Monte]

I think this video explains things pretty well.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=50678&documentID=67882

[GMAN]

For some reason, I never really got comfortable clutching up wheelies...even on the SV. Just seems like a violent way to get the front wheel up. lol

[Monte]

Just bring the clutch in about half way - keeping a couple of fingers under the clutch helps prevent it from coming in too far. It's not really all that violent that way.

Try dumping the clutch on the gixxer! :D

[GMAN]

Originally posted by MrPython
Try dumping the clutch on the gixxer! :D

Ok, as long as you promise to drive me to the hospital soon after. :rolleyes: :D

[Sentinel]

Originally posted by GMAN
Ok, as long as you promise to drive me to the hospital soon after. :rolleyes: :D

Can I ride along in the ambulance? Those rides are cool as long as you're not the one hurting :D

[GMAN]

Originally posted by Sentinel
Can I ride along in the ambulance? Those rides are cool as long as you're not the one hurting :D

The only problem is I'm always the one hurting! lol

[ChristaSVS03]

This is all crazy stuff, and I am sure one day I will be tearing it up...but that day is far away I imagine, I'm not crazy LOL so good luck to you all in the mean-time and I can't wait till I start playing too!!

[Golden_Eternity]

Originally posted by Sentinel
Those rides are cool as long as you're not the one hurting :D

Or paying...

[ersigh]

I don't remember if i said so, but I finally figured out how to clutch in 2nd gear on the sv ... the few times I got it good, it was DAMN smooth and i held it for hella long w/total ease ...

(sniffles)

i miss the sv right now

i wanna do wheelies

(cries)

[Monte]

Originally posted by ersigh
I don't remember if i said so, but I finally figured out how to clutch in 2nd gear on the sv ... the few times I got it good, it was DAMN smooth and i held it for hella long w/total ease ...

(sniffles)

i miss the sv right now

i wanna do wheelies

(cries)
You should have a fundraiser, like GE:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=48333

[Rudeboy]

my gf and I got bored and started busting wheelies on our ice cream date :D

I was a bit scared to really pull it up so I was wondering if any one had busted a big fat 2 up wheelie and what is the danger of the passenger sliding off/taking you with them?

fun stuff :squid:

[BluBallz]

my buddy does them all the time, i personally dont see the point of putting my passenger (100% its the one i love) in any senseless danger, but he does it and as long as they are on the foot pegs and holding onto you, and you are on your pegs holding onto the bars, you should be fine, just lean forward i guess, thats all i see him do

[ersigh]

Originally posted by Rudeboy
my gf and I got bored and started busting wheelies on our ice cream date :D

I was a bit scared to really pull it up so I was wondering if any one had busted a big fat 2 up wheelie and what is the danger of the passenger sliding off/taking you with them?

fun stuff :squid:

i've never done a wheelie with a passenger but i've been a passenger with other people wheeliing (on my sv even) ... and i never felt like i was going to fall off at all because my body naturally leaned forward

now then ... the stoppies ... that's a different story

[BioTek]

I went to a place in the U.K called the stuntwheelieschool.com. They run day long courses on Bandit 1200's. They've got a kill switch mounted on the license plate holder thats wired into the side stand switch (used as a learning and confidence building tool). As soon as it gets too high (adjustable on height) it kills the ignition for just a second and brings the front down. It was a cool day and by the end of it you're so used to the height that the front end's up about 5 feet in the air without the cut off switch being used at all :D . I've tried using the lessons learned there on my SV and I'm just struggling like hell!! :( The SV just doesn't have the power the Bandit could put put out from 21mph (A sudden roll on lifts the front on 'em at 21mph stock), so I am following all of your advice guys and trying the "Shut throttle and whack open" method. It got the front end a bit squirly this morning on the way to work but no height, more practice required I guess. :D

[Rudeboy]

try this...

go about 15 mph.. just make sure that you are sitting in the middle of the seat if not further back..

you should be around 3 grand or so..

then whack it open and about a half second later pull up on the bars (pretty hard) you just can' tug it.

That biatch will pop up faster than an old man at a cheerleading contest. ;)

throttle first... then pull it up.

[Darklighter]

On my GSX 600 F ....I always bent my plate doing wheelies...the weight all on the back wheel...plus the extra weight of the bike on one shock....is deff enough to compress it down endough (with the fender eliminator) to make the plate touch the wheel...just before I left for college...i went out to practice wheelies...and when i got home...I HAD NO PLATE...it took it right off due to repeted wheelies....:( that sucked...

[ridley]

I have had wanted and unwanted success with many wheelie procedures. go to 5000 and just open her up. That one scared the crap out of me. Tried it a few more times with huge success. However I felt the bike accelerated too quickly so everything felt uncontrolled. rolling on the throttle letting off and whacking it open has worked for me also. I get a little freaked if I start sitting too far back because it feels like I am looking at the sky too soon. 99% of my :squid: ly stunt attempts end in, "yea I'm a chicken and I shut it off before things get interesting."

[SV650canuk]

Has anyone tried a stoppie on a SV? I would, but I kinda like my forks straight and my headbearings round.

[ersigh]

Originally posted by ridley
I have had wanted and unwanted success with many wheelie procedures. go to 5000 and just open her up. That one scared the crap out of me. Tried it a few more times with huge success. However I felt the bike accelerated too quickly so everything felt uncontrolled. rolling on the throttle letting off and whacking it open has worked for me also. I get a little freaked if I start sitting too far back because it feels like I am looking at the sky too soon. 99% of my :squid: ly stunt attempts end in, "yea I'm a chicken and I shut it off before things get interesting."

5000?? no way

you need to be lower than that... if you to do it that high you run out of RPM before it's even up ...

i had a smaller front sprocket and at about 2krpm i'd bring it up ...

one of the things that's important to remember is to not pull on the bars, but rather give it a small bounce as the forks are compressing (be sure your butt is as far back as you can get it) and let the front end bounce up when you accelerate ... it feels uber smooth that way, you can control the tire staying straight and you'll come up higher ...

... and do babysteps ... it took me a good six months of practicing every nowand again before i was bringing it up more than a foot or three ...

[ersigh]

Originally posted by SV650canuk
Has anyone tried a stoppie on a SV? I would, but I kinda like my forks straight and my headbearings round.

i didn't know stoppies bent forks ... i know people who do them constantly on bikes they race and have no such issues ... i did stoppies on my sv which had bent forks from a car hitting me, and they didn't bend more ...

i suggest getting aftermarket brake pads first. stock ones are a little bit unpredictable as far as how they heat up and when they bite (i got that info from a prof. stunter who was fucking around on my bike) ... when i put after market pads on, i was able to do stoppies pretty easy ... funny that it's so smooth cuz' of how squishy the suspension is.

i haven't been able to wheelie my gsxr yet ... it feels so unstable in comparision to the sv

[zzzwillzzz]

stoppies are much less violent than wheelies, there's no hammering of bearings, it's all much more progressive and smooth building brake pressure to the point of lifting the rear wheel as opposed to harsh landings of some wheelies. you won't bend your forks or mess up your head bearings from stoppies

[ridley]

ersigh

yea 5000 worked for me. your right it did top out really quickly but the front also came up really really quickly. your also very right about practice. it takes time. Look at me talking like I know what I am doing:cool: . However I am getting a little more consistant, and after reading through this topic yesterday I played like mad on my way home from work. I noticed that the wheelies are getting a little bit higher and lasting a little longer:D

[ersigh]

Originally posted by ridley
ersigh

yea 5000 worked for me. your right it did top out really quickly but the front also came up really really quickly. your also very right about practice. it takes time. Look at me talking like I know what I am doing:cool: . However I am getting a little more consistant, and after reading through this topic yesterday I played like mad on my way home from work. I noticed that the wheelies are getting a little bit higher and lasting a little longer:D

Well try it a bit lower, you should get it to come up faster and be able to hold it longer.

I was getting the hang of clutching in second which was really neat, because it'd come up uber smooth and I'd be able to ride it out longer ... I just had a hard time getting a consistent reaction.

[Dr. D]

On a SV try clutching up in first, just start rolling to a stable speed, about 8 mph. Squeeze in the clutch with one finger until it is just slipping and give a little throttle. Release the clutch smoothly and the front end should come up fast and smooth. Try very little throttle at first and then more, it will flip if you are not careful. This makes slow wheelies dead simple and if you screw it up your only going to be doing something like 15 mph. Oh yeah, COVER THE REAR BRAKE.

[ridley]

when you talk about the use of a clutch to get her up, I am curious? Do you just pull it in untill it slips and then drop the clutch or do you let it out quickly but controlled? I have this image of me turning into a turtle on his back in an instant if I add bad clutch work to the fun.

[ersigh]

Originally posted by ridley
when you talk about the use of a clutch to get her up, I am curious? Do you just pull it in untill it slips and then drop the clutch or do you let it out quickly but controlled? I have this image of me turning into a turtle on his back in an instant if I add bad clutch work to the fun.

quickly but controlled is what you will awnt to learn to do, but in the beginning, i think you just dump it ... of course, you try to control the rpm, so you can get a feel for how it pulls up and eventually you'll find the spot where it brings the wheel up some ... and keep progressing from there.

i was afraid of clutching beacuse i was afraid of loopnig but once i tried it, i realized the sv doesn't have THAT much punch, and that it's not going to buck me off, i'd actually have to TRY for that

[Dr. D]

Originally posted by ersigh
quickly but controlled is what you will awnt to learn to do, but in the beginning, i think you just dump it ... of course, you try to control the rpm, so you can get a feel for how it pulls up and eventually you'll find the spot where it brings the wheel up some ... and keep progressing from there.

i was afraid of clutching beacuse i was afraid of loopnig but once i tried it, i realized the sv doesn't have THAT much punch, and that it's not going to buck me off, i'd actually have to TRY for that

Exactly, it's actually hard to do 12 o'clocks on a SV. It has a low center of gravity so it just wants to come back down on the front. Plus the engine braking helps out a lot to, let off a little and it will come down.

[ersigh]

Originally posted by Dr. D
Exactly, it's actually hard to do 12 o'clocks on a SV. It has a low center of gravity so it just wants to come back down on the front. Plus the engine braking helps out a lot to, let off a little and it will come down.

Funny, my friend was 12 oclocking my SV and said it was one of the easiest bikes to do it on ... he was so impressed by it ... said if he got to play on it a bit more he could do 360 12 oclocks easy ...

Perhaps it's not as easy if you don't have the finesse of a professional. :)

Pix (http://am.net/troll/livejournal%20pix/jt)

[Dr. D]

Originally posted by ersigh

Perhaps it's not as easy if you don't have the finesse of a professional. :)

Pix (http://am.net/troll/livejournal%20pix/jt)

I have about the finesse of a drunk monkey!

[Dr. D]

Ersign, your bike geared.

[ersigh]

Originally posted by Dr. D
Ersign, your bike geared.

ersigh (no n, no capital)

the sv was one tooth down in the front

however, JT 12 oclocked Burst's as well, which at the time was not geared ...

[GsxrGregor]

hehe - I'm gettin' better at wheelies :squid: :D

I've found that a quick throttle cut between 3000 and 4000 rpm (for me) and then whacking the throttle WFO pulls the front end up nicely.

[bloodclot]

hey ersigh, when you replaced the front gear did you replace the rear one and the chain as well?

im thinking about going for a 14 tooth in the front and keeping my stock chain and rear sprocket. but my friend keeps telling me that i need to replace all three or its going to jack up my chain and the new gear. did you have a problem with that ?

[ersigh]

Originally posted by bloodclot
hey ersigh, when you replaced the front gear did you replace the rear one and the chain as well?

im thinking about going for a 14 tooth in the front and keeping my stock chain and rear sprocket. but my friend keeps telling me that i need to replace all three or its going to jack up my chain and the new gear. did you have a problem with that ?

i replace them all at the same time every time (the only exception would be if say, my chain got jacked up and the sprockets looked really good) ... i stayed stock on the rear ... and went down in the front ...

[Aaron_T]

Not trying to beat a deadhorse, but didn't find anything using search.
So, what's the best way to learn them? What gear, mph, etc...
I have 1st and 2nd gear sitting wheelies down pretty darn good, but standing on my front pegs is a little awkward.
I'm 6ft1, and 170lbs, and it just feels clumsy.

I have an 03' SV650S if it ain't in my sig ;)

[JesseJames]

So if standing on your front pegs feels clumsy when your just riding, you want to try and pull a wheelie while doing it now?


If you practice that stuff just do it in the middle of nowhere so you don't hurt anyone else if you fuck up.

[BioTek]

Originally posted by JesseJames
If you practice that stuff just do it in the middle of nowhere so you don't hurt anyone else if you fuck up.


:D :lol:

[Aaron_T]

Originally posted by JesseJames
So if standing on your front pegs feels clumsy when your just riding, you want to try and pull a wheelie while doing it now?


If you practice that stuff just do it in the middle of nowhere so you don't hurt anyone else if you fuck up.


I should have worded it different. I can ride while standing up fine, doesn't feel that bad. Also I was trying them at around 10-15mph in first, and I was thinking maybe that had something to do with it - too "jerky", which was making me a bit nervous.
and yes, I always work on my wheelies in a empty parking lot at a local highschool. So no one around, just me in a huge parking lot. Oh, and I always have my helmet and JR jacket on.

[JesseJames]

Well I would not recommend them in first...not sure about the power on the 650 but on my old bike I would never do em in first...too easy to loop.

I'm not sure if people clutch them, but again I think that way is more prone to looping, but I would get it up in the powerband while standing on the pegs, and as I kinda bounced on the pegs to compress the front I would let off and then give WOT. If you do that in second I doubt there is much way you would loop quick. If it comes up it will do it somewhat predictable. I did it on my old zx-9 in 3rd...it was most predictable then.

Good luck dont wreck it. Wheelie wrecks usually end up with the bike flipping, which means totaled. They just aren't worth it.

[emcue]

should the front and rear suspension be stiff for maximum handling and street speed?? (front setting at one and the rear at seven?) thanks guys

[Aaron_T]

From what I hear, the front and rear are supposed to "lower" 1" or 3" (can't remember) when you get on the bike. That's supposedly the "best". Which this means the setup will be difference per weight of the rider etc...



Ok, I can't get the front to lift up for the life of me. Get going in second, get to around 5500rpms, stand up, bring rpms to 6500-7000 let off real quickly while pushing down, pull up and give a lot of gas. Nothing. I have also tried not leting off the gas but pushing down only then lifting and giving more gas. Still nothing. I think once or twice I may have got it like 6" off the ground, maybe.
Not sure what I am doing wrong. My front pre-load is almost all the way down (only 1 or 2 notches showing), rear is factory setting).

[tsRider]

i don't know why i'm telling this, as someone might mess themselves up, but i have a story, a squid sighting more or less.

while riding with the gf on the PCH heading into downtown, a guy on a silver 03 650 comes up from behind, i slowed to let him catch up. when he gets next to me i notice an abundance of crash damage all over the bike, edven a turn signal hanging by its wires, but the most noticable thing about his bike was the lack of an exhaust. he had the sotck system, but it was cut right in front of the can, and it was gone. LOUD.

i think that we were at second gear speed, maybe 45-50, and he stands up in the REAR footpegs, pounces hard on the front end, and gases hard. he was at least at 10:30, maybe more, and for a good distance, but he came down for a stop light ahead.

i didn't think the sv could do that, but right now i don't care cuz i won't be trying:D

[Lockers]

Bounce ups are piss easy... and they put you in a stand up position. I have a mate that clutches second then stands up but I find this the easiest:

1. Second gear, 6000 rpm.... maintain constant speed and stand up.

2. Bounce as hard as you can using your legs, both front and rear suspension compress then rebound. As you do this, or even slightly before, crank the throttle wide open. Up she'll come. As the suspension rebounds...

Make sure you have lots of room cos you'll be doing 60mph in no time. Position your left foot before you bounce so you can change into third...

One note though.... Due to the Sv's oil pickup I wouldn't recomend long wheelies... trust me.

[Aaron_T]

I stood up a little bit after doing a clutched 2nd gear wheelie, but not what I was looking for.
When you say bounce, do you just push down, or actually bounce a couple times? Do I still need to push down on the handle bars, and pull up as well?

You have definitely given me a lot better idea of what to do now.

[Chris_az]

A couple of us went out yesterday and fooled around on a deserted road, i was clutching it in, he was just gassing it, and i've found that if you dump the clutch in first at anything more than 5,500 rpms it'll come up... how much is still open for debate...

from my perspective it was 4' off the ground, sustained for a good twenty feet. Apparently the rest of the world didn't catch all of it so it looked, to the untrained eye, as if i got it up six inches for a few feet and then racked myself stupid. I would like to point out that i was not, indeed, in excruciating pain, i was merely trying to warm my testicles with both hands whilst sobbing.

they get cold, yanno.

on an 90 degree day.

ow.
chris

[Lockers]

When you say bounce, do you just push down, or actually bounce a couple times? Do I still need to push down on the handle bars, and pull up as well?

What I mean is, from a standing position on the pegs... 'using your legs', push downwards really hard then stand back up as if you were about to jump as high as you could. Forget pulling on the bars, just hang on and be careful with throttle control cos it will get very high... 11-12 o'clock.

[poopoohead]

wheelies!!!!!!!!!!!.....just lean a little forward when your about to bring up the bike, you wont feel so loopish if you do.

im not a stunta but my stand-ups are gettin pretty long.;)

[nefarious-az]

When chris says acouple of us, I have to admit that I was included and might have actually instagated the whole damned thing by gassing it up for like 4 inches on our way out for a ride. I haven't tried any of the bounce methods mostly just cutting throttle then gassing it hard. I haven't figured out body position yet or where my weight should be. The problem is I only weigh 130lbs. I have my front preload at the 2nd line from the top (i think) and the rear is like at 5 or 6. This is what I got off some suspension page a few months back. I managed to drop the clutch at 8K and pop her up quick ... wasn't paying attention should have been leanining across the bike. ANYWHO the break fell right on my leg and I have a nice bruise to show for it cause I freeked and dropped my feet. I got yelled at yesterday for putting the wheel a up while I was heading on post..common sense I guess.

[Aaron_T]

I tried a bit last night. Nothing, cept one time I got the front maybe 6"-1' off the ground for a second.
I think I am doing two things wrong. One being not enough gas, and the second being gassing it too late - I would stand up, push down, stand up then gas it.
Hard finding a place with no traffic to practice, maybe tonight I will find a good spot where I won't be so rushed.

[Sinaz]

Alrighty, here's how it all worked out for me....

The biggest thing I had to overcome was fear of cracking the throttle-- I mean, you really have to whip that sucker open.

So all I do, is get the bike rolling in first gear- scootch your butt all the way back in the seat. Accellerate a little, not too much, but so that your tach is maybe around 3000 rpm.

Then I shut off the throttle altogether, and let my body weight shift with the bike, compressing the front shocks. Then, I just crack that throttle hard.

The front end WILL come up. When I felt it was impossible, it was because I was being a wuss with the throttle.

Now that I can pretty much maintain a short wheelie and bring the front wheel down smoothly, I'm working on the upshift.

[EviL]

If your feeling really stupid you can get a 47 or 48 rear tooth sprocket.
My wheel comes up all the time coming out of corners..

Now all i need is to be able to maintain the constant.. that and a new pair of underwear..:D

[Aaron_T]

Still can't get the mofo up when trying to bounce it in 2nd.
Every once in a while I can get it up a little bit, not much though.
Actually one time I did get it up pretty darn high, but have never been able to do it again. Not enough gas???
I figured with the new slip-on on it would be easy, since 1st gear power & clutch, and 2nd gear clutch wheelies are way easier now with it on. 2nd gear clutches are easier than first gear clutch ones were before the slip-on

BTW, front pre-load is at 1 or 2 (only 1 or 2 notches showing), and rear is at factory setting.

[BluBallz]

heres a small tip, dont do wheelies.. they only get you into trouble! but if you must.. in second gear you have to find your power band.. find where your bike pulls its hardest when you just womp on the throttle and feel for that pull.. for me thats around 6- 6.5. stand up slightly and jump down loading your suspension, then just give it full throttle and push your butt out (away from your bike) to help make a nice balancing point. it helps to practice on a deserted road somewhere.. but not alone.. with friends just in case. good luck young padawine.

[Aaron_T]

:D

Guess maybe the amount of gas has been my issue. It's been snowing, rainingm and hailing, but it "should" clear up at some point, since we don't normally get snow till Novemeber, or late late October.

I always practice on a no traffic street, but it is almost always by myself. I feel pretty safe since I never try and go for the "glory" the first time. As with everything with my bike I start very slow, so in this case I'll just keep giving it more throttle till I finally figure out the amount I need to bring it up.

[NC03SVSRider]

sometimes trying without a full tank of gas helps since theres less weight....just until you get a feel for the balance point.

[wantAsvs]

hey... i just passed my 600 mile break in... and i wanted to see if i could do a wheelie... so i tried... this is what i do... i start moving in first a lil bit maybe like 5-10 mph... then i let go real quick and gas it again... i can only get the bike off the ground a couple inches... can anybody give me advice on how to do a wheelie... i just want to try it... and actually do a decent one... and i know its stupid to do wheelies.. or some may think... but i think its damn coooll!! so leave me alonE~!

[Burst]

well, I would suggest you learn to control your bike with both wheels on the ground before you try to learn wheelies. 600 miles doesnt even get you close to experienced enough to try and attempt stunts. I am not saying wheelies are stupid... I do them all the time, but I had at the very least a couple thousand miles under my belt before I started doing them.

[nefarious-az]

My guess is even if you THINK your grabbing the throttle all the way your not. I can get mine up no prob in first...Just gotta work on it. get up to more like 15mph or 20 then grab a handfull real quick to compress, let it go then grab it full throttle all the way and hold on.

*Edit*
And what Burst said!

[wantAsvs]

well this is not my first bike... and i feel really comfortable on my bike... and i think im ready... i have a couple thousands miles under my belt... but thanks for the advice.. let me try to wheelie again...

[Burst]

ok... I accept no liability if you wreck your bike... and you likely will at some point trying to learn wheelies.... but here goes...

1st gear wheelies are easy... get moving 15mph, kinda goose the throttle, close it all the way, then open her up wide open. You have to play with it and get the open-close-open timing right. It WILL come right up if you are doing it properly.

2nd gear, stand up on the pegs, give her a good bounce, when the bike is springing back up snap the throttle open and up she comes.

[soulofadra6o]

phil.....600 miles isnt comfortable...how fast can u take a turn without freaking out or going wide? u may be comfortable given all the cirumstances are in your favor...but 600 miles isnt anything..i got almost 9k miles and im still learning ALOT on the SV...save the wheelies for later! dont wreck ur bike doing something stupid, wreck ur bike doing 70 in a turn at the track or something ^^

lots of learning u do young padawan

Originally posted by wantAsvs
well this is not my first bike... and i feel really comfortable on my bike... and i think im ready... i have a couple thousands miles under my belt... but thanks for the advice.. let me try to wheelie again...

oh i didnt read that..thought u were a new rider haha, well anyway i wouldnt recommend u doing wheelies just yet

[Kurt'sSV]

Don't post again until you can wheelie one handed.

Thanks.

[Tillers_Rule]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
Don't post again until you can wheelie one handed.

Thanks.


I can wheelie no handed, so does that mean I can post whatever the hell I want?

[racinteach]

I can wheelie without trying.....that means I can post anytime I want...ha!!!!trya one hander,no footer, while looking back at your friends....wait that was my last dirt bike crash...my mistake ..continue....

[mojo mofo]

Originally posted by Tillers_Rule
I can wheelie no handed, so does that mean I can post whatever the hell I want?

I don't think riding your unicycle counts...

[cracked lid]

I have yet to wheelie my current bike. My previous one I did power wheelies off straight throttle almost every time I took off from a stoplight. SomehowI never got caught by the po-pos

[Silver6]

I haven't done wheelies on the SV but I'm sure it's cake. My EX500 was a real bitch to wheelie. I had to get the revs up to 7,000 and just dump the clutch. There was no way in hell I could wheelie that bike without using the clutch.

Oh, what did I do with the bike after the clutch was fried, you ask? I traded it in for the SV! Hahahaha...

[No_Brakes23]

Originally posted by Tillers_Rule
I can wheelie no handed, so does that mean I can post whatever the hell I want?

You would anyway.

[Paulp90]

Mine powers up real nice in first :D



Can hold them fairly long (till it feels like its gettin to high)


I dont even have to do the gas then let off then gas again....

If I just pin it in first it will POPPPP up! Its hard to keep it on the ground when taking off from a light - 1st is really hard - 2nd it has popped up a few times, but usually I can just feel the front wheel hovering a little bit above the ground.


Does anyone else agree that the SV has a pretty moody engine?

Sometimes it has GOBS of power..... sometimes it seems like its lackin? my friend who also has an 03 agrees.... anyone else notice?


We both agree that it is the best during night (cold air)

But, theres also been times during the heat of the day where its been just as good as it was at night.... anyone agree? anyone know what could do this?

[The Green Bastard]

Wheelie the shit out of it, then get an inline 4. I tried my buddies and it wheelies like a sonofabitch!!!! Check out the one handed stoppies, First time he let me ride his bike I did this, crazy bastard.... lettin me ride his bike!

[Paulp90]

Originally posted by Flyboy
Wheelie the shit out of it, then get an inline 4. I tried my buddies and it wheelies like a sonofabitch!!!! Check out the one handed stoppies, First time he let me ride his bike I did this, crazy bastard.... lettin me ride his bike!



Is that a 600rr?

[The Green Bastard]

ya

[mcbiggity]

http://www.ononewheel.com/ (Wheelie School)

I'd love to try this.
I can't hold wheelies up for any length of time. The only way I've been able to get them up is clutch in 2nd gear.

[hornet]

i have an 03 svk1 when i get pissed at intersections dump the clutch its all i can do to get it back down cops are going to nail me one day. i just see it coming.

[tsRider]

dude, flyboy, if you're going to do one handed stoppies, which you are obviuosly proficient in, don't you think you still might wear some FUCKING GLOVES!


:squid: :squid: :squid: :squid: :squid:

[The Green Bastard]

Excuse me????

[The Green Bastard]

I usually wear gloves, after I did a couple of stoppies I borrowed his, Since they match his bike and all!!!

[The Green Bastard]

And of course a wheelie... with gloves

[drewster]

huh... and all this time i thought you had to clutch it to get it up in 2nd
is it a predictable up or a hold on up ?

[wantAsvs]

dude.. i still cant do it.. i can only get my wheel an inch or two off the ground... what am i doing wrong?

this is what i do... start off in first and go to about 15-20 mph... let off the gas and really quick grab a whole bunch of throttle.. and i just lift up a lil... i tried for a while.. is there anything else specific that i need to know? or do i just need to play around with it more?

[tsRider]

flyboy,

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

glad to see you wearing some protection.

..... and it appears you did some stunts just for me! i feel special....:D

i'll bet you didn't know either, but you have stumbled upon the standard socalsv greeting immortalized in countless photos...

just don't kill yourself alright? good...;)

and to wantasvs, dude, you must be off in your timing, or you are not gassing it hard enough.

if i go like 15 and abruptly open the throttle all the way, the wheel comes up. and if i rock the throttle on off, it really comes up.

you need to watch someone else do it, and hear what the engine sounds like, i think

[The Green Bastard]

Originally posted by tsRider
flyboy,

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

glad to see you wearing some protection.

..... and it appears you did some stunts just for me! i feel special....:D

i'll bet you didn't know either, but you have stumbled upon the standard socalsv greeting immortalized in countless photos...

just don't kill yourself alright? good...;)

and to wantasvs, dude, you must be off in your timing, or you are not gassing it hard enough.

if i go like 15 and abruptly open the throttle all the way, the wheel comes up. and if i rock the throttle on off, it really comes up.

you need to watch someone else do it, and hear what the engine sounds like, i think



The new greeting we use around here is known as the SHOCKER.....Two in the pink and one in the stink!!!!

Give her the shocker!!!!!
http://www.bigshocker.com/

[tsRider]

flyboy,

oh i know about that bro;) , but thanks for the link. i might order one. i've seen guys wear 'shocker' shirts that don't say anything, but have the hand sign on the front....

yes flyboy, give her the shocker!

[warsaw1776]

Originally posted by tsRider

and if i rock the throttle on off, it really comes up.


what do you mean throttle on off?
i tried a wheelie once, it was a pretty good one but when i came down the wheel was turned a little bit. scared the crap out of me, and i just barely held on. now i am afraid to do them.

[poopoohead]

Originally posted by wantAsvs
dude.. i still cant do it.. i can only get my wheel an inch or two off the ground... what am i doing wrong?

this is what i do... start off in first and go to about 15-20 mph... let off the gas and really quick grab a whole bunch of throttle.. and i just lift up a lil... i tried for a while.. is there anything else specific that i need to know? or do i just need to play around with it more?


just keep fuckin with it :squid: ,.... youll get it. Thats exaclty how i started...i wasnt as anxious as you are though..which is a bad sign IMO...be carefull


u need more seat time!

[tsRider]

warsaw...

it is called power wheely i think....

you goose the gas, the bike leans back, you close the gas full, the bike leans forward, as she starts to come back to neutral position you punch the gas. and you wheely.


i have done this a number of times. never very well. but this method has never denied me....

also, it happens to me accidentaly in 1st gear if i punch it hard. like someone wrote, even if you think your gassing it all the way, you're not. if you do, abruptly, i guarantee a wheely...

if you are going to try, go to an empty lot or something. a guy told me that if he didn't look ahead while landing, he wouldn't land well. i have always landed fine, but i am always looking ahead at the road and never at the bike or the handle bars.

at this point i am more interested in cornering than wheelies though, so i don't know when i'll try some more.

when i was riding with my noobie friend, he would go so slow i would get bored, and pop little wheelies all over the place....

let me add,

squidly behaviour is often rewarded with injuries and a fucked up bike. ride within your limits, all of you....

and if you must practice wheelies and shit, do it where your mistakes wont put anyone else at risk

....and wear gloves:D

[poopoohead]

actually.....just dont even try..dont do wheelies..they are against the law.....just stop........obey

[tsRider]

oops,

sorry sheriff. at least i told em to go to empty space to be :squid:'s.


and do you know what else....

do what poo says and not what poo does. got it....

http://www.socalsvriders.org/albums/albut73/fahr38.gif

[Kurt'sSV]

Another thing that helps get the front up is to sit as far back on the seat as you can. Hell, if your arms are long enough, sit on the passenger seat for starters.

[RobSD]

Originally posted by wantAsvs
dude.. i still cant do it.. i can only get my wheel an inch or two off the ground... what am i doing wrong?

Took me a while too. Once you stop thinking about little things like flipping the bike or coming down with your wheel turned you'll do fine :D Chances are it won't happen. Well...actually...it might. Just that you won't be able to do it if you're thinking that it will

[kc1717]

confidence and relaxation are key,...two things you seemingly dont have. so work on those, and wheelies will come.

[Guyster]

How do you guys get it up in 2nd and 3rd on stock gearing?

[The Green Bastard]

Originally posted by Guyster
How do you guys get it up in 2nd and 3rd on stock gearing?

I have an intercooler on mine!!!lots of juice!!!

[racinteach]

Originally posted by Guyster
How do you guys get it up in 2nd and 3rd on stock gearing?
well first she rubs me the right way ...if all fails I go for the little blue Pill ......

[wantAsvs]

Originally posted by racinteach
well first she rubs me the right way ...if all fails I go for the little blue Pill ......


haha

[Lubetek]

Originally posted by Stinky
I guess I gotta lose some weight or something. Changing the rear shock is out of my budget right now.

should have bought a bigger bike.
on another note, can't the rear shock be adjusted stiffer?

even I find it hard to picture this

[The Green Bastard]

Ugh!!!! I busted a fork seal.......Anyone ever change one?? Is it a big deal?? I have never had the pleasure. I have been lucky in the fact I always trade before something shitty like that happens. BTW on another note my Avon Azzaro is showin' thread after 5000 Km. Shit!!! Now I have to put my bike down for the winter!!!:sad: :sad: :sad:

[poopoohead]

sounds/looks like all that fun just bit you in the ass:p

[tsRider]

i don't think its too bad flyboy. you got tools and stuff, don't ya?

you need to rebuild your forks anyway so you can start cornering:D

[red_head]

Originally posted by mcbiggity
http://www.ononewheel.com/ (Wheelie School)

I'd love to try this.
I can't hold wheelies up for any length of time. The only way I've been able to get them up is clutch in 2nd gear.

I'm doing this on Sunday in Pomona...I'd rather use their bikes if I'm going to crash...after I know what a good wheelie feels like, then I will do them on my own bike. They said that they will teach Enduro's too...should be fun...8 hours of wheelies, enduro's, stoppies:grin:

[poopoohead]

whats an enduro?

[red_head]

Originally posted by PooPooHead
whats an enduro?

WHAAAA??? You're messing with me, right?

[poopoohead]

nope.......whats an enduro?

[red_head]

Originally posted by PooPooHead
nope.......whats an enduro?

It's another word for "rolling stoppie"...I guess the lingo is too old for this crowd.

Probably because enduro is a kind of MC racing too;)

[PoopMonkey]

That's what initially came to mind for me.... the type of dirt or dual sport bike. That aside, I suppose "enduro" would make sense for that =)

[mojo mofo]

You sure you aren't talking about endo's?

[red_head]

Originally posted by mojo mofo
You sure you aren't talking about endo's?

OH-YEAH!!! That's it...DOH...I'm a chick, give me some slack:)

[KevBigCBR]

Originally posted by red_head
OH-YEAH!!! That's it...DOH...I'm a chick, give me some slack:)

That "I'm a chick" shit don't fly roun hurr...









You get no slack!

[mojo mofo]

Don't mind him. He's just angry because his ball and chain doesn't cut him any slack :D

[red_head]

Originally posted by mojo mofo
Don't mind him. He's just angry because his ball and chain doesn't cut him any slack :D

HAHAHA...I understand:D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll give him some slack though;)

[KevBigCBR]

Originally posted by red_head
HAHAHA...I understand:D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll give him some slack though;)

a SMART Red-Head would have said, "I'd take the slack out"...

HA!

[racinteach]

Smart red head? wait I am mean blond ...never mind ...

[The Green Bastard]

Originally posted by mojo mofo
You sure you aren't talking about endo's?

http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11564


Be careful you dont blow a goddam fork seal!!!!!!!
Bags of fun though!
;) ;)

[tsRider]

flyboy,

look,

i made this for you:D


http://www.socalsvriders.org/albums/albut73/fahr381.gif

:p :p

good luck fixin the bike....are you really down for the whole winter?

[Paco]

Originally posted by Flyboy
Ugh!!!! I busted a fork seal.......Anyone ever change one?? Is it a big deal??
It's not the end of the world man... Depends on how bad you blew it, but as long as it's not squirtin out you should be ok to make it down the road... provided you're not planning on carvin up the canyons. I had a busted fork seal for a few months and I somehow managed to stay on the road... That's the price of wheelies man, get used to it :p

[caiolfhionn]

i have never been a wheelie person. even as a kid i hung out with people that could do it and i never seemed to have it in me. i have a friend that can wheelie anything: bicycles, 650 Raptor quads, XR50 dirtbikes, 250 2 stroke dirt bikes, streetbikes and even his dad's Roadking. some people just possess that natural ability to find the balance point. i on the other hand have not been able to find it yet. he wheelied my sv the first time he ever even rode an sv!....

the sv is easy to stand up. but like somebody said before, the oil feed's location makes the SV oil-less when held on one for extended periods. i have never liked the clutched wheelies. the violent nature of the front end coming up so quickly makes me overly cautious when attempting to master this technique so i usually only try it once or twice before giving up. however the torque oriented twin configuration is perfect for power wheelies. i had to play with it for a while but i finally was able to get my timing and technique to at least a consistent level.

i keep my arms relatively straight and move back on the seat, this is just preference. then in first gear at about 20mph (3k-4krpm), covering the rear brake, roll off and then blip the throttle and chop off again. when this happens the forks compress and on the rebound stroke, just as the forks are coming back up, give it as much throttle as your wrist will allow and it should come up. if the timing is right it should be around 1500 - 2000rpm when you stomp back on the throttle. after some practice i am now able to stand it up about 2 feet or more everytime. i ride until first is done, usually about 20-30 feet and set it down again. the trick is being relaxed and comfortable on the bike. and to be willing to take the time to learn and suffer the consequences of a not so smooth learning curve.

i am not one of those guys that wheelies all over the place. but given the nature of the sv and the fact that i ride everyday, it was a must to learn, just to say that i can. just know when and where it is appropriate. there are some seriously bad outcomes on: www.uponone.com check this out and you will see why being patient is a real virtue when it comes to taming a motorcycle. remember, it doesn't know or care that it hurt you.

ride to ride again.

keeling

oh yeah and please tell me that i am not the only one that feels Lubetek's avatar is a little disturbing.:eek:

[Lui05SV650]

I have been practicing a those wheelies little bit... I can do the power wheeled on first gear...

The way I been doing it it is to seat back as far as possible, I bite the gas tank with my legs, Relax my arms and keep the bike well balanced. Bring the RPM to 3,500 rpms and roll the throttle to about 3/4 play. Front end comes up nice and easy.

After doing it about 10 times or so I was able to reach up to a balance point. You will most definitely know when you have reach the balance point!!! Once you get to this point it seems a lot easier to get the bike back up there and it seems like you do not have to worry about going past it. From there, the only thing you really wanna do is go the distance..........

I would recommend starting easy and work your way up. Before you reach the balance point it seems like you have gone way to far up.... and tend to roll off the throttle. That is OK, All you need is practice! I would not worry too much except try to roll the throttle back on a little bit so you do not bring the front end down too harsh. You can damage your forks or even bend your front wheel!

The key is practice... Now I can bring the front end up smoothly, hold it there for a little bit, and bring her down nice and easy.

I do want to practice going the distance some more before I start to try the clutched wheelies... I do not want to worry about the balance point or going the distance before I dump the clutch in second gear to bring her up and keep her there!

I will post as soon as I get to that point... :) Luis

[pAint]

way to go mang. Keep practicing.... but remember... do it in a "safe" area.
;)

[nefarious-az]

... 15/50...

[The Scoops]

I find that when im trying the roll-on technique, im screaming the bollocks of the thing and getting about 1/2 an inch lift. AT what revs should the wheel start to lift? Or does this really differ from bike to bike?

Leigh

[nefarious-az]

15/50



:squid:

[councilmanbo]

http://www.socalsvriders.org/modules.php?set_albumName=albuy00&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php


The sv wheelies real nice, just keep it away from rev limiter/keep your oil up and you wont have any problems.

[Rocko]

Yesterday i did my highest wheelie ever. i think my forks were parallel or nearly parallel to the ground judging by how my bars wanted to flop to one side. I also felt what seemed to be the rear suspension compressing a lot all of a sudden. It all happened so fast so I am wondering, is this what it feels like when your body is directly over the rear wheel? I was sitting down...and I don't really know if it came down again because I let off the throttle or because I used the rear brake....like i said, it all happened so fast...

[Kyoseki]

:squid: :D

ps. Nice Avatar :)

[racinteach]

second the nice avatar...:D

[outwest007]

Thats either his girlie, or someone he's stalking... didnt she have a nice sunburn in the last one a cpl days ago? :-?

[J.Moto]

Attention whores. :rolleyes:

[Burke]

I can't do wheelies very well so I couldn't tell ya'

BTW... Nice avatar...

[J.Moto]

My highest wheelie was probably my very first one. I was trying to drag from a light. My guess is the bike was around 60 degrees.

Rocko, were you doing wheelies on purpose?

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by Rocko
Yesterday i did my highest wheelie ever. i think my forks were parallel or nearly parallel to the ground judging by how my bars wanted to flop to one side. I also felt what seemed to be the rear suspension compressing a lot all of a sudden. It all happened so fast so I am wondering, is this what it feels like when your body is directly over the rear wheel? I was sitting down...and I don't really know if it came down again because I let off the throttle or because I used the rear brake....like i said, it all happened so fast...

Did you post this gibberish just as an excuse to show off your new avatar? It's sexy, I'll give you that, but what's with the granny panties?

[Rocko]

naw..you guys would've seen the avatar regardless of this thread, dork....i really wanna know what the F was happening during the wheelie...it was a weird feeling that i've never felt before when it felt like the suspension was compressing.

guess you can't help me because you do trackdays

p.s. that is a swimsuit

[J.Moto]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
but what's with the granny panties?


Hahahah. Well the kids are almost old enough to start reproducing...so she's almost grandma material!

[burnt_toast]

Hard to say on the wheelie. When you're at the balance point and sitting down you're behind the rear wheel mostly. To get the forks parallel with the deck is pushing 12 o'clock, and I'm a balance point type, not a 12 o'clocker. If you whomp on the rear brake while you're way up at the balance point it will compress the rear suspension.
-toast

[pAint]

ROCKO YOU SQUID. THE SUSPENSION WAS NOT COMPRESSING, IT FEELS THAT WAY WHEN YOU GET TO THE "OH SHIT" POINT. THAT IS THE POINT AFTER THE BALANCE POINT WHERE THE BIKE JUST FEELS LIKE ITS GONNA LOOP. STAY IN THE BALANCE POINT... IT YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOUR THERE... JUST BEFORE THE "OH SHIT" POINT. YOU SHOULD ONLY BE BABYING THE THROTTLE AT THAT POINT.

Avatar is nice.... the undies are a big NO NO.