WSMC Race Day

[DOC]

You got a trophy, cool!
DoC

[zzzwillzzz]

Congratulations!!!

what tires did you run in the endurance race?

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by zzzwillzzz
Congratulations!!!

what tires did you run in the endurance race?

The same. Because I wasn't racing anyone during the endurance race I backed off my pace after the first couple of laps so the bike wouldn't slide around as much (I would have a 2 wheel slide coming out of 9 every time I hit the apex hard).

Now I'm thinking if I make some adjustments to the shock that will help the rear wheel. I'll need to e-mail Zoran.

[RacR4JC]

I finished 7th with enough points to graduate!!! See you in 550sbk next month Kurt.

[huevos]

Congratulations Kurt.

I kept a pretty low profile this weekend. I was burnt from the corner work on saturday and after the riders meeting on sunday I actually left the track and went into town to eat and get out of the heat.

Came back at about 1 pm and even then hung out in my friends car with the air conditioning on, up at turn four, and fell asleep. I came down right before it was time to grid, wasn't to thrilled to be there and basically just wanted to get it over with.

2 starts. Someone crashed in turn 7 on the outside (how do you do that?) on the first lap.

Ken got a massive start the 1st start and and even better one on the 2nd. Ken, what are you doing? Is it gearing, did you mod the engine, or are you just revving it to high heaven and frying the clutch each weekend?

Did my personal best this weekend druing morning practice 1'36.38".

Finished 15th, Ken finished 7th and he was flying. My friend Mikey on his kwak 636 crashed out on 3 and broke his ankle.

race report coming soon

Best of all, I"M OUTTA NOVICE!!!!!!!!!


Later,

Stevan

[Kurt'sSV]

Sa-weet! More SV's to race with in 550SB! But more importantly, more people in 550SB (there were only 8 of us yesterday :( ). Either of you guys notice how that guy on the naked red SV (with black tail) did? He has a black helmet with an British flag sticker on the back of it (though I think he's French).

[RacR4JC]

BTW, congrats kurt, 2nd in the Solo, that takes some stamina! No clue about the french dude, he was slow.

Stevan: Gearing is better, engine is same...if you came to a jetski race you would understand more about the start. I launched @ 7k and slipped the clutch keeping the tire about 2 inches from the ground and slammed through the gears. I have Barnett plates now, stock clutch was failing.

I witnessed turn 7 crash actually it was more like 6b if there was a 6b... He tapped Melissa's ass down 6 and she slapped him, almost highsided in the process.

[huevos]

I saw him.

He must of been behind me throughout the whole race because he passed me after the checkered flag during the cool down lap going into turn one.

Saw it was a naked SV and thought, "Gee, sweet, another brick piloting fool...I am no longer the only one." I'm pretty sure it was maroon and it was definitely a pre-03.

[Kurt'sSV]

Yeah, Melissa said she had no clue what the hell happened behind her in 6. All she knew was that she was going to high side. It wasn't until after the race was over that she looked at her exhaust and saw that someone nailed it. Be sooooooooo glad you are out of novice.

I launched @ 7k and slipped the clutch keeping the tire about 2 inches from the ground and slammed through the gears.

That's what I do, too. The SV launches fast. In 550 I went into turn 1 in 4th behind 2 other SVs and and Richie Thorup's FZR Frankenbike.

[huevos]

I'm sorta slow on the pick up of the posts this afternoon.

Congrats on getting outta novice Ken. (I just saw your post)

So.... 7k huh? I rev it to around 3-4k, lean forward, just pop the clutch and gas it. The wheel just barely comes up in 1st and usually comes up when I slam it into 2nd and I'm pretty sure I don't get past 3rd before turn 1. Maybe I'll try the clutch frying technique. I haven't up until now because the less I have to do to the bike, the less money I have to spend on it, the better.

[RacR4JC]

The pop might wreck more than the slip. I'm in 4th by turn 1 and then 5th into 2...I'm 14/44 at the moment, what is your gearing?

[Slaughter]

BRAVO all o'yous!

You are ALL outta novice and I'm not outta the garage (but sure am outta MONEY!)

Gonna miss next month with Vegas.

Are any of you doing Sportbike Track Time on Labor DAy on the Big Track? I'll be testing.

[huevos]

I'm running stock gearing: 45/15.

Final reduction ratio of 3.00 as opposed to 3.14 for you. Leaving the front alone, I'd have to go up two teeth in the rear to get around where you're at.

In the end, its prolly not that. More than likely, I think, its a simple matter of physics and Newton's 2nd law of motion:

F=ma

where F=force, m=mass, and a=acceleration.

solving for acceleration:

a=F/m

In other words, in order for acceleration to be silly fast, Force needs to be big...or mass needs to be small.

Well...hmmm...let's see...

My Force is around 3-4k of rev...not too good compared to 7k.

My mass...well...hmmmmmmmm...

OK!OK!...SO YES!...YOU GOT ME!...MY FAT ASS COULD STILL STAND TO LOSE A COUPLE OF POUNDS!...SO?...GEEEEZ!
...YOU GUYS HAPPY?

Physics lesson is over f-ckers, thank you very much.

Later.


P.S. As you can prolly tell, the E.R. is sorta slow tonight, hence the 3 a.m. post.

'night.:p

Oh, by the way.

I want to give a big public thank you to Steve Slaughter for coming up with the goods, without hesitation, and without even being asked, when it came to sourcing belly pans for the upcoming rule change requiring the SVs to have one.

He made them himself.

You rock Steve! Dinner's on me next month if were both out there. Sorry I didn't get a chance to thank you in person after my race on Sunday.

Later.

[Kurt'sSV]

Here is a pic of your guys'es race that Kent took. Ken is the bike farthest to the left (680) and you can see Stevan coming up the hill (652). Then way in the back ground you can see that other naked SV and rider with a black helmet.

[Slaughter]

They ought to have Kent doing the photo work. Devin (the Willow "house" photog) is getting lazy, burned out or just doesn't try anymore. Cool shot!

[RacR4JC]

some cool shots, needs more of my bike and less of that star chick tho....lol

[huevos]

guess who star chick is.

[Kent]

If I would have known who anyone else was I would have been shooting you too......

I was just snaping away all day long. I tried to get a shot of everyone in there, but there is always some one missed.....

Kent

[huevos]

I was just snaping away all day long. I tried to get a shot of everyone in there, but there is always some one missed.....

Kent


Great shots. Did you catch any grief for being out there being that Devin has pretty much had a monopoly on the whole photo thing?

The photos are a great learning tool. I have made adjustments on foot positioning, arm/leg placement, stance and even lines based on what I see in photos taken while out on the track. I pick up things that I wouldn't be aware of otherwise.

Thanks for being out there and adding a different perspective to things

[RacR4JC]

Pics can tell you a lot about your body position, I have learned a lot from looking @ pics. Go to a track day & feel really good about body position and then look at the pics....and figure out I still have a long ways to go!

[Kurt'sSV]

Kent took about 4 with me in them (I will get them from him when I can make a 20 dollar donation to the Palomar Pics fund), and yeah, it's interesting to see what your body position is really like. I lean my upper body over much more than most people do. I think I'll continue to ride like that, plus it makes me look like I'm going faster. :cool:

[RacR4JC]

Lol. Upper body is a large mass and when you stick it out there, really helps with moving your CG. When I figured this out, I started going way faster.

[RacR4JC]

u ready kurt? stevan? I'm signed up for 550sbk, BOTT Mw, and F-Twins. what you guys riding?

[Kurt'sSV]

I'm born ready. :cool:

Like last month I'll be doing SoloGT-lights on Saturday and only 550SB on Sunday (can't afford to do MWT, but I'll run that race in October and November since the Solo series ends after this month). I will also be practicing all day on Saturday as well thanks to a free practice day from WSMC. :groove:

And Shandra will be riding this race weekend as well on her 400.

[GetnJgyWitit]

bastards! November can't get here quick enough!

[harbiho]

Arel the races being held this weekend?

Somehow Will and I thought they were being held on the 18th and 19th?

[Kurt'sSV]

The Sept. WSMC races will be on the 19th (18th has endurance races). Ken is just thinking a week ahead I guess.

[RacR4JC]

Well, I was sposed to be racing in 'Havasu this weekend, but we aren't gonna make that, so I'm getting anxious!

[NGKSALES]

Kurt, I am planning to have my bike together for the Oct. Friday paractice at Willow.. I am still planning to come out next sunday and watch you guys race/ I've been to watch my Brother race there but it was in....well....like....20yrs ago..hehe
I belive its $130 is that true?? and non WSMC racers like myself can come out for the day??

[Kurt'sSV]

Yeah, you can do a Friday track day with WSMC for 130, BUT you have to buy a "street riders" membership for like 50 bucks as well (it's a one time thing, but if you are only planning on doing 1 Friday track day with them, 180 bucks is a lot for one day). But, if you've got the dough, go for it. I would recommend doing Trackdaz'es track day on the big track on October 25th (a Monday) instead (I'll be there :) ). It's 130 bucks, but no "membership" fee.

www.trackdaz.com

[oren]

I like the Friday street group track days with WSMC just because they're so empty and you get a lot of quality track time.

The cost is maybe a bit more, but there is the advantage of just staying up there for the whole weekend and checking out races.

If I can get out of work, I will be doing the Friday street group this week.

[NGKSALES]

Got it.. Right after I posted that I read about the OCT 25 date.. I already have that day off and that would give me a couple extra days to get the bike ready...
Hey by the way I see that your using a stock S model upper fairing... what did you use to cover the headlight holes??

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by NGKSALES
Hey by the way I see that your using a stock S model upper fairing... what did you use to cover the headlight holes??

"Holes"? The head lights are still in there. lol
I just stuck this vinyl "motocross" number backing over the front and across the tail and stuck numbers on top of it. My bike really isn't in "race trim" :D (I just like to pretend it is. )

[oren]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
"Holes"? The head lights are still in there. lol
I just stuck this vinyl "motocross" number backing over the front and across the tail and stuck numbers on top of it. My bike really isn't in "race trim" :D (I just like to pretend it is. )

Did you keep the horn too? :D

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by oren
Did you keep the horn too? :D

Yup. :groove:

[NGKSALES]

HAha:D Here I was already to here about how crafty you were with those two big holes up there..... Well hum.. guess I will have to come up with somthing... Race upper would be nice huh??$$
Got a pair of 208's today...pick up the wheels from powder coat tomorrow..

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by NGKSALES
HAha:D Here I was already to here about how crafty you were with those two big holes up there..... Well hum.. guess I will have to come up with somthing... Race upper would be nice huh??$$
Got a pair of 208's today...pick up the wheels from powder coat tomorrow..

what size rear rim do you have?

[NGKSALES]

Stock...why?

[GetnJgyWitit]

Are you talking about 208gp's? If so how are you going to fit the rear tire on the rim?

[NGKSALES]

No. the Regular 208's..

[NGKSALES]

What time do the Races get started on Sunday??

[Kurt'sSV]

10ish.

[Kurt'sSV]

Oh my god was it a windy weekend at the track. We were cold on Sunday. My times in 550SB were slow as hell because of the wind, but I still felt that I road well when I wasn't being a puss in turn 8. My starts in the endurance race and 550SB were weak. Not sure what my problem was. I think Ken should teach a clinic on how to launch a bike. I think he went into turn 1 in third place starting from the fifth row. :eek:

Glad you guys came out and watched. More of you should come out next month for the Toyota 200 on October 17th.

[morbidelli17]

Was the wind blowing to the outside or the inside of Turn Eight?

[Kurt'sSV]

Inside, from the southwest like usual. Caused some nasty crashes. In one of the 600cc races a guy on a borrowed bike cartwheeled it off the track entering 8. That destroyed machine (pic below) that was once an R6 was the B bike of the race winner. On the cool off lap the race winner got tangled up with someone congradulating him. He crashed (entering 2) and his bike caught ON FIRE! I think the wind gusts screwed them up and caused them to come together. Another guy crashed on the cool down lap as well and someone didn't even make the start because he crashed on the warm-up lap. That was not a good race.

[harbiho]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
That destroyed machine (pic below) that was once an R6..........

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[morbidelli17]

F#&K!!!!!!

That is one TORE-UP bike!

The only time I ever put my knee down in Eight was when a gust of wind just literally picked up my old GPz and moved it all the way toward the outside of that turn. I figured a lowside would be better than riding into the dirt at full-chat in sixth; leaned over hard, made it through, rode like a wuss the rest of the day ...

[NGKSALES]

It was in fact very windy.. Great to Meet Kurt and Shandra.. Kurt and Kenny were fun to watch in 550 SB.. Can't wait to get out there for a track day..
Todd

[oren]

It was ridiculously cold and windy yesterday.

I felt really bad for Mark Palozzo and Sam Carnibucci. What an awful day for some people.

[RacR4JC]

yah, palozzo crashed three bikes, his own bikes in practice and the first race of the day, and then the borrowed bike you see a pic of above in the 600superstock race

[RacR4JC]

who's going to the toyota 200?

[Kurt'sSV]

Will be watching the 200 on Sunday, but racing the SV on Saturday. Excited to race with rebuilt forks. :groove:

[oren]

I'll be there watching.

[Slaughter]

I'll be able to play finally after a 5 month layoff!

The Muell is alive! Actually made $100 in contingency money.

I didn't break anything at Formula USA/Vegas so I get to play at Willow

And I still PROUDLY have Sandra's Muell cartoon on the airbox!

Been a long time and now the SV starts getting rebuilt.

I'm pitting for Scott Jensen on Sunday in the T-200

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/403336/Vegasweb.jpg

[Kurt'sSV]

Ken (Racer4JC) and I had an awesome race against each other in middle weight twins. I've never raced so hard.

In 550SB I ripped off a 1:33.4 on my fourth lap but I still only finished 9th out of 19. I had to come from dead, dead last at the start because I, um, was in 6th gear when the green flag dropped and it took me about 20 seconds to figure out what was wrong with my bike. Hehe, oops. :o It was fun passing a bunch of people, though.

Robert, that belly pan worked out great but I wore a hole in it coming out of 9. We'll have to work on it before next months races.

[zzzwillzzz]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV


In 550SB I ripped off a 1:33.4 on my fourth lap wow! i'm impressed.

[coyn586]

On saturday during the 650 Superbike race, I did my personal best ever laptime a 1:27.80!! Still finished 14th though

[Slaughter]

Kurt is HAULING ASS!!

I was only doing like... 39's in practice so decided to just let everybody else go racing.

I've got a long ways to go after being outta the saddle for dang near a half year!

Kurt and Kenny have come a long ways!

I just got to watch that yellow helmet get farther... and farther... and farther away.

Good racing Kurt and Kenny!

[oren]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV

In 550SB I ripped off a 1:33.4 on my fourth lap but I still only finished 9th out of 19.

Congrats! Awesome race.

[sunrisesvrider]

I had to come from dead, dead last at the start because I, um, was in 6th gear when the green flag dropped and it took me about 20 seconds to figure out what was wrong with my bike. Hehe, oops.

I was standing in the bleachers at turn one. Saw everyone go flying by but Kurt. Looked like he was going to do a parade lap until he finally found the right gear and got rolling.
Kurt, maybe you should put a sticker on your gas tank "UP FOR FIRST GEAR".:confused:

[NGKSALES]

Hey Kurt, Were's the October Race Report? How were the re worked forks?...

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by NGKSALES
Hey Kurt, Were's the October Race Report? How were the re worked forks?...

It's coming. The reworked forks kicked ass. Major improvement on handling under braking and more planted in 8.

[RacR4JC]

here we go again, hope it won't be too cold this month.... b-(

[Slaughter]

WEnt out for practice today - weather was perfect and the afternoon wind died down. Getting cold nights now!

Advanced Racer School is an awesome thing. 3 students per instructor and they'll WORK with you - especially if you ask them to spot you in difficult sections.

Curtis Adams and Jeff Stern were today's instructors and there were only 5 students. Kinda cool having the whole session to just 7 riders!

See you guys tomorrow and Sunday!

(next month the SV project starts... just got gixxer bodywork and I gotta pull the forks to see if they're usable)

[Shizznid]

Kurt,

I'm planning on coming out on Sunday, (the 21st) what time does the first race start?

-Zack

[oren]

Originally posted by Shizznid
Kurt,

I'm planning on coming out on Sunday, (the 21st) what time does the first race start?

-Zack

Generally around 10:00. Practices start at 8. Each group gets 2 sessions at ~10 min which puts that at 9:30. Then a 15-20 min riders meeting. Assuming no crazy accidents in the morning.

[Kurt'sSV]

Cool, Zak. My first race is the 3rd race of the day, but my second race is like the 3rd to last of the day. GetinJiggyWitit's race is 2 races before my second race I think. We'll be pittging at the yellow wall again. It's supposed to be windy and cool tomorrow, so probably no canopy. See ya there. (I assume you'll be there too, Oren)

[oren]

What is GetinJiggyWitit's number?

I'll be there way way over in Turn 1. I had a really fun time on Friday. The weather the last two days have been great.

[oren]

That was a crappy race day. Between cold, wind, drizzle, and even a bit of snow falling down, the races were called after race 3 which was started at about 12:30. Oil cleanups had to occur during practice, first race and second race. I think only third race was clear of oil but there were crashes all day. I almost lost it in turn 1 on the first lap of practice. There was just absolutely no grip.

It goes to figure Friday is perfect, Saturday is good, and then Sunday is just absolute hell.

WSMC is also not giving carryovers for people's first race entered. There goes $70 for five laps in the morning.

From roadracingworld:
http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=11100

[JesseJames]

Damn...well glad I didn't drive up to watch that. Sorry about your day at least you didn't eat it.

[Shizznid]

Yea, no shit. I'm really glad I didn't make it up there. When's the next round? Praying no rain and SNOW i'll be there...

[oren]

December 19th is next race day.

[RacR4JC]

i agree, that sucked. my bike was slippin and slidin through 2 and 5....ridiculous!

[Slaughter]

Where's that puking smiley that I can paste in here???.

3 grenaded engines oiling the track - one running down the front straight into turn 1 was really spooky coming out to practice afterwards!

We had the last race of the day and how many people get the chance to race in rain and snow on the SAME LAP???

Amazing to see how fast Kurt and Kenny have gotten (even in the sh*tty conditions) Kenny handed me my butt coming into turn 3 and because I'm on the "other" bike, I could take him back in the fast sections. Doesn't seem right but I have to acknowledge that he can take me in the corners now.

Now I gotta get my SV back up to speed again!

Good to see Oren out having fun - good they called the race before the 600-classes started out. With all the crashes they normally have, it'd have been a bloody day today.

Kudos to the organizers for calling it off after about 3 crashes each race and for racing supposedly starting at 9 AM with a new race every 20 minutes - race 3 wasn't called off till after something like 1230... fun is fun but today was a beyotch!

During our final red flag, I was chatting with the turn 8 corner workers and told them I hoped they'd be calling it off. Those poor souls are out there ALL DAY with no protection from the elements except the clothes they bring with them. What they lack in teeth, they make up for with dedication!

[oren]

Actually 650 Superbike did finish. It was race 2. The guy I was pitting with, David Siminsky, took sixth. :D

[Kurt'sSV]

Yeah, holy crap that was a cold, crappy day. Being that I'm one of the few people who got to do their first race, I'm not out any money, but for others, like Jiggy, I feel bad. But that's how it has to be I guess.

Once we got going in the race my tires felt fine. Of course I wasn't going very fast, but I'll have to say I'm a Dunlop fan now.

I'll probably go out and watch the racing in December, especially because I want to see Jiggy and Shaggy's first race, but no more racing for me until January.

[GetnJgyWitit]

Well I just got done unloading the truck and showering so now I can finally relax! :tired: Very interesting day compared to yesterday. Yesterday was beautiful I only wish I had more track time. I haven't been on my bike really since July 31st and I still managed to pull a 1:42 in my first session out. It's about 4 seconds off of what I was running last time out there, but I was feeling pretty rusty and with a new shock I was a little timid at first. Not to mention just nervous. Then...

Race Day! Yeah! Well not really. It was colder then cold! and I couldn't get ready in time for light weight practice and I ended up going out in the middle weight practice. SCARY! My tires were like bricks and it seemed like I was going to crash in every turn. I was putting it around the whole track. I only got one lap in and saw 2 people go down.

In the second practice again I had to makes some adjustments to the reservoir mount on the penske and I missed the light weight practice again. I had to go out with the middle weights. I was even thinking of sitting this one out because it was soooooooo damn cold I couldn't even feel my clutch or brake levers. I went out and tippy toed it around again and some guy passed me hard on the inside going into five and another guy tried to pass me on the outside. Just then as he was right next to me I glanced over at him just in time to see him do his best impersonation of superman :eek:. His front end went out and down he went.

As I was coming around towards turn 3 I saw a cloud of dust and as I went buy I saw it was this guy named John from my new racer's class. I went through 5 and the superman guy was picked up. Then when I went around again and some guy crashed hard in 2 and then as I was heading to 3 I figured that John had been picked up, but his bike was still there along with another guy's bike!:eek: The flags came out and I headed in.

Then the races more crashes and blown motors and then it was all called off.

It was neat seeing Kurt out there and watching Dustin (Trackpimp from Trackdaz) take an 11th place finish in 650sbk while it was snowing and he was on slicks! What sucks is after 2 restarts they cut the race down to 4 laps on on the last lap Dustin was within striking distance of 4 guys!

Kurt I can honestly say I was worried and I am kinda glad that my race was canceled. It was a bitter cold day.

Deno, Stoble, Pulse, and Sean Thank you for making that long drive up and supporting Shaggy and I, I am sorry that it didn't happen though.

Till Next Month!

[Tillers_Rule]

Yea, I spoke with a buddy of mine up in Lancaster today and he told me about the snow. i sure hope it's better weather next weekend.

[RacR4JC]

jgy, it was good to meet you, glad to have another SV'er out there. sorry your first experience was such a sucky one, this weekend had probably the best (sat) and worst (sun) days i've ever had at the track. Kurt, your a crazy man. my bike was slippin and slidin all through 2 and 5 and I was sticking everything i could off the bike to decrease some lean angle. I had a slick on the back which wasn't cool and a rensport on the front. I'm glad they didn't have a front slick for me @ pirelli cuz i would have been in the dirt with the other guys. Slaughter, your a nut too, after sliding the front through 5 numerous times on that semi-wet track, i said screw that speed thing! lol, and thank God we all kept it on 2 wheels. you guys ride safe and i might.... not see you next month lol. be at fontana next weekend, hope to see some guys and nice weather there!

[morbidelli17]

I was one of the lucky ones who got a race in. Unbelieveably, I wound up 2nd; nice big trophy. I was on my best friend's EX500; unfortunately, due to the conditions and his poor choice of tires, the thing slid damned near everywhere. I consistently lost the front in Five, frequently in Three, and occasionally elsewhere; I've been racing about a decade and have never been more consciously concerned about merely staying upright.

Was 4th and last going into Turn One at the start; bike went sideways in Two, to what felt like full lock in Three, then one of the guys in front of me crashed in Five and I backed off, thinking another of my friends might have been leaking something. His motor grenaded in between Turns 8 and 9. I don't mind saying it was terrifying crawling through there, KNOWING there was oil all over the place; I was just waiting to hit the pavement. The 25-minute cleanup was an exercise in Zen; I had no idea of who would be back out there when we restarted, and I really wanted a trophy badly. The guy who blew up the motor got on a backup bike; the guy who crashed didn't make it back, but another guy who had crashed earlier in the day made the restart. My bike still handled like it was on gravel, so I adopted the Mark Donohue rain race strategy; crawl through the corners, hammer it down the straights. I had more than enough horsepower to stay in second.

I would have raced in the rain for my second race, but it was easy enough for me to accept the cancellation. It was like the universe said, thanks for coming out, here's a trophy, now go home before you hurt yourself.

I'm VERY glad no one got really hurt yesterday.

[GetnJgyWitit]

Hey just wanted to thank a few people for their help. Shandra thank you for helping with the mounting of the Penske reservoir and Zoran thank you for letting me use your drill.

[Tom]

Hey Kurt,

I meant to stop by on Sunday, but I got there late due to road closure on the 138. By the time I arrived and got situated there, they were calling it a day. :p

I did see the BOTT race, and it was good seeing you and a few other board members out there on the track. You must have left soon after they called it quits though - I was around your pit area and there was no truck in sight. Anyway, glad no one on here went down.

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by ubermensch
Hey Kurt,

I meant to stop by on Sunday, but I got there late due to road closure on the 138. By the time I arrived and got situated there, they were calling it a day. :p

I did see the BOTT race, and it was good seeing you and a few other board members out there on the track. You must have left soon after they called it quits though - I was around your pit area and there was no truck in sight. Anyway, glad no one on here went down.

Yeah, the second I pulled in after the race Shandra was ready to go. She was a little hysterical about the fact that snow was falling from the sky (which is rather odd for a person who grew up in Michigan). So we were out of there pretty quick. I was disappointed that they canceled the day because I was having fun out there during the race. There probably would have been crashes in every other race and the day would have had to have been called early anyway.

[Slaughter]

Morbidelli - you f**king EARNED that trophy! Wonder what could have happened if you had another lap!

Good racing man! (too bad they can't add your points to the year total)

See you next month!

[jadeblue1]

Yeah, the second I pulled in after the race Shandra was ready to go. She was a little hysterical about the fact that snow was falling from the sky (which is rather odd for a person who grew up in Michigan). So we were out of there pretty quick.

of course i was-it was giving me bad "8 mile rd" flashbacks-you move 3000 miles to escape the stuff & then it follows you....

i hate snow, & anything that resembles it...

(although you mistook "holy sh*t it's f****ing cold-i'm getting the h*ll out of here for "hysterical")

:D

jgy-you're welcome, morbidelli- glad you took 2nd & congrats

[coyn586]

Kurt.. I noticed ya'll left pretty quickly. You loaded your bike before even taking your helmet off ;)

[twf]

Originally posted by coyn586
Kurt.. I noticed ya'll left pretty quickly. You loaded your bike before even taking your helmet off ;)

that is what happens when you bring women to track on cold day ;)

[bodmaster]

Thank you Zoran for hooking me up with those rubber caps and hose clamps!! Too bad I didn't get to go out as they shut down the facility just before race #4 (600SS). NEXT TIME tho. ;)

For those of you who didn't get to race your novice races.. I talked with Danny Farnsworth and he said that he would credit you guys with a carry-over good for your "second race entry" when you become a probational expert next year. So all is not lost. That was UUUBER cool of him to hook that up. We all felt bad that the day had to be cancelled but they made the right decision. Too many injuries, crashes and oil everywhere.. not to mention the horrible weather! WSMC busted their asses off trying to keep the day going for us. So hope you guys are a little happier now! :)

Congrats to Jiggy and Shaggy for getting their racing licenses without incident! You guys were looking great out there!

[Kurt'sSV]

Some shitty news from the WSMC BBS board:

http://www.ducatitech.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1727&start=0

[GetnJgyWitit]

yeah not good.

[Slaughter]

Gotta find out the details but according to RRW, it sure smells like $$$ Huth was pissed that Danny cancelled the races meaning a hit in the wallet for the Huths.

Danny did the right thing in calling it off. Every freaking practice and race had too many people crashing and oiling the track.

SURE - at the end of the day you can look back and say we COULD HAVE raced but living here in the desert and flying here since 1968, I know Danny did what was right - trying to outguess the weather - especially considering all the damage happening - and they really hadn't gotten to the squid-snuffing classes yet.

He erred on the side of caution - those of you who have had new racer school KNOW how serious he is about safety in a dangerous game. Calling it off had to be a hard call to make but he had the cojones to make the call.

I keep thinking that Danny probably doesn't need the BS that it sounds like he is exposed to with the Huth Family (owners of both Willow Springs Raceway and WSMC) - he's probably home thinking "who needs this shit?" He's got a good day job and the WSMC gig is a thankless task.

I'm going to wait to see what info comes out but am composing a letter to Bill Huth on Danny's behalf and unless new information surfaces by noon tomorrow, I'll send it.

DANG

[GetnJgyWitit]

http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/

[jadeblue1]

even if they had waited until 2 pm, according to that article, the remaining 15 races couldn't have been run by 4:30 pm. the 1st entries were forfeit, so the track still got the operating costs covered.
danny got the short end of the stick for sure, but he made the best call-the conditions werenn't safe to ride in...

[GetnJgyWitit]

I'm sending a letter tomorrow.

Mr. Bill Huth
c/o Ronda
Willow Springs Motorcycle Club



Dear Mr. Huth,


This is regard to the termination of Danny Farnsworth. I am sorry to hear you have made this decision. I personally, along with many other members of WSMC feel that this was a terrible mistake. Mr. Farnsworth does nothing but stress safety for the racers.

WSMC safety is one of the main reasons why I chose to race with this club. Now with out Mr. Farnsworth I am not so sure what WSMC’s intentions are. Is money more important then the safety of the club members? Yes the weather did get better for a bit, but who can predict the weather? No one. If I remember right even the tower was looking at the weather report online and they said it wasn’t going to get any better.

I would like you reconsider your decision and understand why Mr. Farnsworth made his decision. Just think about what would have happened to the club if racing continued and someone was seriously hurt or killed. Mr. Farnsworth was walking a double edge sword and he chose the side in best interest of the racers’ safety. That is a great decision.

For these reasons, I urge to reinstate Danny Farnsworth straight away. Thank you for your consideration.

Thank you,
Michael Bisig

[morbidelli17]

Any of us who have been around the sport for any length of time can name several riders who should be alive today, but - because of someone not having the balls to stand up and say, it's not safe, we're not racing here today - we've gone to their funerals, in spirit if not in fact.

Thanks, Danny, for putting us and our well-being first.

This is fucked.

[twf]

Originally posted by morbidelli17
Any of us who have been around the sport for any length of time can name several riders who should be alive today, but - because of someone not having the balls to stand up and say, it's not safe, we're not racing here today - we've gone to their funerals, in spirit if not in fact.

Thanks, Danny, for putting us and our well-being first.

This is fucked.

Danny did right thing on that day,I was there.
however you can not say that because somebody does not have balls several riders would be alive today.if you look it that way there would be no racing.changes dont happen overnight.things do get better and will but we still have to race.we racers do know there is risk involved regardless how safe track is and it will never be safe enough.

[morbidelli17]

I know we play a dangerous game, and that people die under the best of circumstances. And I know that risk is a personal yardstick; what scares the crap out of some is routine for others.

But think of Jarno Saarinen, Larry Schwartzbach, Jamie Bowman, etc., who were all killed on tracks that simply weren't safe or under conditions that weren't - and track officials knew it at the time. Those, to me, are the tragedies that hurt the most; the ones where someone didn't have to die that day, and did because someone else failed in their duties to protect the riders.

That's why Danny's getting canned sucks. I've seen that man do many things over the years to make sure he minimizes the risk I personally face when I hit the track. Eliminate it? Impossible. But dammit, I'm safer at Willow with him, Kenny and Larry around than maybe any other track in the U.S.

[RacR4JC]

In my short racing career (over 7 years now) I have become less likely to be surprised by bad decisions made by officials. I have raced (watercraft) in strong undertow, ridiculous surf, sewage spills, high winds, storms including lightning, horrific fog, uncertain big boat traffic, on a dangerous race course with way too many other people that are quite as mad as I am. Races are rarely called off, and when they are, it is never for a reason as good as when they should have been. Also, hindsight is 20/20 and even considering the weather after we left Willow, I feel that the decision made by Danny was probably the best I've seen by any race director I've met (and I've crossed paths with a couple). If they had kept going, they might have gotten 10 races off before it started to get dark, but there was no way they would finish 18 races even with combining classes like was discussed.

Willow is not a track to clown around with, its what? the second fastest track in the nation? The fastest speeds are reached while knee on the ground... is this a track anybody wants to be riding without maximum grip? I was ready to pack it up after my race and then I came back to the trailer to find my crew had read my mind and the bike was the only thing they were waiting for to hit the road. Danny did the right thing and he threw his ass on the line for us. I think something needs to be done about this, Danny was doing his job so that we can make it back to ours.

[Kurt'sSV]

Maybe CCS Pacific will hire him and he can make that organization more professional. If Danny did go to CCS, I wouldn't renew my WSMC membership.

[bodmaster]

Danny has always done an outstanding job with WSMC. On Sunday, despite chilling winds and gusts with rain/snow, blown motors down the front straight, turn 1 and turn 8 areas.. he had the crews working VERY hard to get everything back to a safe operational state to continue the races that day. He always kept an eye on the track, the sky, the riders and for his crew. He showed a professional character of calm and leadership in doing his very best to keep operations on track as safe as possible for the *CLUB* racers despite all the adverse conditions. I would hope that Mr. Huth would recognize Mr. Farnsworth's valiant efforts to keep the races going both for WSMC and for the racers. Heck, he even had cones placed out on the inside of turn 8 where they could not get all the oil cleaned up! So.. what the heck was Mr. Huth waiting to see before agreeing with Danny's decision to call the day? Was he waiting for cones set up inside turn 1 so you could only run a line on the outside 2 meters of turn 1 in the marbles? Was he waiting for another rider to go down and not have any more ambulances available to take him to the hospital? Was he waiting for one of his "customers" to die out there first before calling the day (sure it's a risk we all take as racers but there are better ways to die than to die cuz the track was already covered in gallons of oil in icy cold conditions with storms moving in)? Was he waiting for the snow to hit even harder? We could have sat there and waited til 4pm, have 2 races complete out of nearly 20.. put the day on hold the entire time! But considering the fact that Danny has already deployed nearly every means possible to keep the day going as safely as can be... I strongly believe that Danny Farnsworth made the right call for the racers AND for the organization. It would not look good for the organization if Danny were to force the issue and tell everyone that it was still *safe* to race over gallons of oil slicks, hundreds of pounds of grease sweep on the track, 40mph gusts, big storm fronts looming, freezing temps, snow, oil at the apex of some of the fastest turns on any racetrack in the country, etc. It freakin snowed in Temecula!! This was no ordinary day of bad weather..... even the roadracingworld.com offices recognized that while they were reporting conditions at WSMC and their own offices. With all the injuries, the number of ambulances that had to cart off all the fallen racers and the poor track and weather conditions... Danny.. you are my hero for doing the RIGHT THING!

On that note, I do agree that if it was part of Danny's job to notify the owner before cancelling the rest of the event due to safety concerns, Bill Huth has justification for being upset. But firing him over this seems rather absurd. Of course, no one really knows the whole story just yet.... WERA West is looking more and more appealing to me... anyone interested in the WERA West 6 hour race at WSIR?? ;p

[GetnJgyWitit]

I need to hit the gym and start saving my pennies for a motor and I am down with the WERA endurance race!

[RacR4JC]

WERA West is looking more and more appealing to me... anyone interested in the WERA West 6 hour race at WSIR?? ;p

I like WERA West a lot, I've ridden the Fastrack track days and the Vegas round and I think they run a really good show. As for the endurance at Willow and at 'Vegas, we (LArace.com) will be there as well as all the rest of the WERA National Endurance series.

[oren]

I've never gone to California Speedway Infield only track before. What do you think of racing there?

[RacR4JC]

Personally I think its a mistake of a track to be honest. The AMA course is awesome, second on my list (to Vegas Classic). The Infield configuration is really slown and technical. You need good forks and good traction. The cool thing is there is absolutely no rhythm unlike Willow. Making fast laps on the Infield is more work, but makes it easier for a guy like me that can ride fast but hasn't been around for a long time. It totally reduces the experience factor. I think it would be a cool motard track...a little on the fast side, but the turns are tight enough it would be fun on a motard. Avatar was taken @ Infield.

[oren]

I may try to do the first WERA West race in Vegas just to see what it's like. I've heard good things about the track.

It just seems really strange to race the California Speedway Infield. Hopefully it will work out well.

[RacR4JC]

truth be told, its simply cheaper for them to do so. the full AMA track costs more money at a venue that already charges an arm and a leg. the vegas classic track is awesome, its my new favorite. its a blast. i dunno, you might like the infield...i personally don't because its too flat and not a lot of rubber on the ground.

BTW, any word on WSMC??? Who will be in charge next month???

[jadeblue1]

don't know whose running the races-but curtis adams is teaching the school. there's also a new girl in the office named tisha-she's really nice.

[coyn586]

Curtis Adams is running the school?? WOW!! That's a smart move man.. That guy is awesome..

[Tom]

So if I take the nrs in a month or two, I'll be able to go as fast as his son?

Is that how it work?

:D

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by jadeblue1
don't know whose running the races-but curtis adams is teaching the school. there's also a new girl in the office named tisha-she's really nice.

I wonder if Tisha is as cute as Ashely Huth? :confused: Hmmmm, more hotties in the WSMC office during registration would brighten up my morning. :D

If Shandra re-takes the new racer's school I'm going to ask if it's okay to sit in so I can hear how Curtis teaches racing.

[twf]

or you can come to my school and beat his son :)

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by twf
or you can come to my school and beat his son :)

The Zoran school of racing? Where do I sign up? And does the curriculum consist of more than: "pool back the facking throttle, poosy."? :D

[huevos]

Originally posted by twf
or you can come to my school and beat his son :)


you've got a school? When, where, & how much?

by the way, you have any bearings yet for a 04 gsxr600 front swap. I'd like to get the front on for december's round.

[GetnJgyWitit]

Fuck I want to race!

[jadeblue1]

i wanna take zoran's school too! (plus it would be a good reason to go party in reno:D :D)

[huevos]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
The Zoran school of racing? Where do I sign up? And does the curriculum consist of more than: "pool back the facking throttle, poosy."? :D


actually kurt, i think it's " just crack da facking throttle, poosey" and "just ride da facking thing"...or something like that.

[twf]

Originally posted by huevos
you've got a school? When, where, & how much?

by the way, you have any bearings yet for a 04 gsxr600 front swap. I'd like to get the front on for december's round.

Kurt have just told you everything I teach in my school,no need to attend :)
yes,I have bearings.

[huevos]

zoran, i'll pay pal you today when i get home

[Kurt'sSV]

So have you guys read about the transponders we'll start using in 2005? Accurate, instant scoring is awesome. $280 for the transponder is not awesome. Oh well, it's the price you gotta pay to race. At least WSMC will let you finance it over 90 days which I assume means you'll make 3 payments of . . . . . . . whatever for 3 months. It's also the same transponder they use in WERA, CCS and AMA.

[GetnJgyWitit]

I believe ccs lets you use them for free, you just hvae to put down a deposit.

[huevos]

kurt, where did you hear about this transponder thing?

Will we be able to log our individual times during practice or will it just be used for scoring during a race.

never mind, i just read the november newsletter.

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by huevos
kurt, where did you hear about this transponder thing?

Will we be able to log our individual times during practice or will it just be used for scoring during a race.

never mind, i just read the november newsletter.

http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/clubs/wsmc/newsletters/novnews.pdf

[huevos]

i'm thinking of switching tires. i'm running pirelli slicks right now. was thinking of the super corsas as an alternative, would save some money, around $350 a season. do they feel the same?

was thinking of going with a pair of dunlop slicks, rear 155/60/17 as it seems that the 160/55/17 is meant for a 5 inch rim. anyone run dunlop slicks? are there any race worthy DOTs from dunlop that fit the sv rear, didn't think there was? going with dunlop slicks would reduce my yearly tire budget by around $600. would it be worth it?

What about michelin, I know zoran runs those, what size? pilot h2, m2, s2...dot or slicks? stock rims?

anyone know where i can source some bridgestone slicks? I know that they make sizes for 250 gp which should work on the SV.



any opinions, first hand experience?

[coyn586]

Stevan.. I believe Brad Adams was running a 208GP front and a 207GP rear.

best of luck man!

See you on Jan 7 at Willow!

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by coyn586
Stevan.. I believe Brad Adams was running a 208GP front and a 207GP rear.

best of luck man!

See you on Jan 7 at Willow!

Thats the same set up I run.

[huevos]

Originally posted by GetnJgyWitit
Thats the same set up I run.

how much does that setup run you. what's the rear tire size?

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by huevos
how much does that setup run you. what's the rear tire size?

It isn't cheap. I eat through the rear faster then the front. I buy from Sport Tire Services because they are the only people that carry the 207gp. The rear is a 160, but it fits the rim really well. I can get edge to edge with this rubber. The rear goes for $196 I think after everything. I normally buy a front 208gp take off from them as well because they look new most of the time. I heard in May they will be coming out with a 209gp that will fit our bike! :groove:

[huevos]

what is the aspect ratio on the 160?

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by huevos
what is the aspect ratio on the 160?

:confused: It isn't as narrow or have the triangular look that the 208gp has, but it sticks and it still turns in better then a pirelli. You will notice some headshake at first with the 208gp but then you get used to it. I like the tire you can feel everything. It isn't numb like a pirelli.

[Kurt'sSV]

I put on Dunlop slicks last month and like them (155/60 rear). The front steers better than the Pirelli's. Bradley Adams has run Dunlop slicks the past couple of months. He uses 165/60's on his 5 inch rear rim. The next rear I buy is going to be the 165 Dunlop just to see what it's like. I heard after the Daytona 200 is run, Dunlop is going to come out with a 208GP in the 160/60 size.

Brienne Tomson runs Supercorsas. She has tried the Pirelli slicks, crashed on them and subsequently doesn't like them.

All DOT's have more give than slicks. Adjust suspension acordingly.

[GetnJgyWitit]

[i] I heard after the Daytona 200 is run, Dunlop is going to come out with a 208GP in the 160/60 size.

. [/B]

They have been testing 209gp in a 160/60/17 out at pharump (sp?)

[Kurt'sSV]

208, 209, whatever. I won't be using them. Why run DOT's in a superbike class?

[RacR4JC]

thing I don't like about DOTs is that they roll the tread backwards, I'm guessing from hard downshifting and engine braking. this tears up the middle of the tire and I would think hurt turn-in, as well as wear out faster. haven't noticed a huge difference in grip between DOTs and slicks, but I would pick a slick over DOT any day just because of its strict racing design where the DOT has to loosely conform to street standards and for them to update the design of a DOT, it requires more money, which means the slicks get all the new development, quicker. the 160 pirell slick was updated recently and I got a revised rear which was noticeably different and didn't cup as much toward the edges as the old tire, but getting your hands on one is a task. I say if running superbike, get an F3 rear wheel and run the supermoto/250gp 165s

[GetnJgyWitit]

Well the F3 rear rim will be coming shortly I hope, but right now I have other expenses, like a damn Transponder! :mad:

[huevos]

will an f3 rear go on without mods? same axle? same spacers?

same cush drive?

what year?

is it a 5 inch?

[twf]

you need complete wheel with rotor and cush from F3.
here is what needs to be done
http://www.prestonmedina.com/web/f3/f3wheel.html

[RacR4JC]

New tire vendor temporarily @ WSMC...

http://venus.roadracingworld.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=11220

[oren]

I think it's about time Pirelli replaced CRS. I just hope they find a permanent replacement soon.

[huevos]

what carb set-up are you pre-03 sver's using at willow?


I'm still running 138's, 2 1/2 turns, dynojet needle on #3 groove with a full yosh and desnorkeled stocker.

worked well enough during the summer with the heat.

what's willow's altitude anyway? Like 2500'?

was thinking of changing to 140 now that it's cold. I don't know seems like going from 110 to 40-50 degrees might make an impact on the A/F mixture

Zoran, you out there, wanna chime in?

[twf]

if is running fine dont touch it.
it is easy to change jets at track if needed.
I be there to show you :)

[GetnJgyWitit]

every thing is stock on my bike, Zoran you want to help me tweak it a bit! LOL I'll buy some jets or needle shims or whatever I need from yeah.

[twf]

you both should get on Lou's dyno for base run to see how it runs.than tweak if needed.
I can show you how :)

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by twf
you both should get on Lou's dyno for base run to see how it runs.than tweak if needed.
I can show you how :)

I was planning on it this weekend.

[Kurt'sSV]

How much does a run on Lou's dino cost? It would probably be appropriate for me to do a run on the dino before I take my bike apart on Saturday, then do another run on it after I get it back together.

[coyn586]

Louis typically charges like 20-25 for dyno runs

[RacR4JC]

who's going this weekend, when will you be there, and where are you pitting?

[huevos]

i'll be there. pitted in the usual spot in front of hartman's garage.

[GetnJgyWitit]

I'll be there, not sure what day I am going up though.

[oren]

Originally posted by RacR4JC
who's going this weekend, when will you be there, and where are you pitting?

I'll be there Saturday morning in the Turn 1 area.

[coyn586]

I'll be there in my normal spot across from Dunlop with Jacob West #86

[twf]

anybody that lives in LA area that can take gas tank down for me?
I would bring it to track this weekend and need somebody to take it to LA.
thanks

[Kurt'sSV]

Take it down where? Maybe Shandra and I can help.

[coyn586]

Zoran.. I work in LA.. where do you need to take this Gas Tank?

[twf]

you would need to hold it for day or two untill guy calls you and comes to pick it up.he is in sherman oaks.
or you can drop it if you live around corner from his place.

[coyn586]

I think Kurt would be the better Drop.. Shandra lives in 818

[twf]

how do you know her house number ;)

[GetnJgyWitit]

lol :cool:

[cyclox]

actually, 818 is closer to sherman oaks, no?
:confused:

[jadeblue1]

sherman oaks is very close to burbank-i think i can spit & hit it. seriously-it takes about 15-20 min to get there

[twf]

can you take it for me?
I take you out for diner and you dont have to pay for it(like going with Kurt) :D

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by twf

I take you out for diner and you dont have to pay for it(like going with Kurt) :D

Uuuuuhhhhh, actually, that wouldn't be like going with Kurt. :-s

[EviL]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
Uuuuuhhhhh, actually, that wouldn't be like going with Kurt. :-s

LOL


tsk tsk tsk. :p


:love:


Kurt, repays us with his charm, wit, and eye candy.

:love:

[racinteach]

evil you really make me wonder.....

[jadeblue1]

sure zoran, but what exactly am i picking up & to whom is it going? ( i just saw my name mentioned-i have no what i've been volunteered for.)

[twf]

sv fuel tank.guy will contact you and come to pick it up.
thanks

[huevos]

Originally posted by twf
sv fuel tank.guy will contact you and come to pick it up.
thanks

yeah...and after the 818 is decimated by a nuclear blast that originated somewhere in sherman oaks...and its discovered...cuz it always is... that ground zero was a lil' ol' sv gas tank in the valley...they're gonna come lookin' for you shandra! don't do it!!!! aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RacR4JC]

que la chinga? im thinnin doctor huevos lost his huevos... ;)

[jadeblue1]

easy enough-see you saturday zoran!

[Kurt'sSV]

Yay, Shandra passed new racer's school! Perfect weather out there today, too.

[RacR4JC]

Weather couldn't have been better this weekend. Had lots of fun & finished well. Have Bradley & Brienne in sight now!

[RacR4JC]

~~~insert demeaning comment from that tall guy that talks funny here~~~

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by RacR4JC
Have Bradley & Brienne in sight now!

Originally posted by RacR4JC
~~~insert demeaning comment from that tall guy that talks funny here~~~

Eh, I'll fill in for a while.

Yeah, you have them in sight on pregrid. :)

[GetnJgyWitit]

LMAO! :lol: Those two were cooking out there!



Zoran's comment below is pretty damn funny too! :lol:

[twf]

Have Bradley & Brienne in sight now!

stop looking behind,they were coming but not that close :D :)

[huevos]

Originally posted by RacR4JC
Had lots of fun & finished well. Have Bradley & Brienne in sight now!

That's nothing. I'm so gaddam fast that they weren't able to lap me even once!

[Tom]

Thanks for all the great support this weekend. You all made the 2nd place (from last) finish almost bareable :o Seriously, I had a blast because of you guys and girl. Special thanks to Z for a strong bike that would not do anything wrong even if I made mistakes on it. :squid:

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by ubermensch
Thanks for all the great support this weekend. You all made the 2nd place (from last) finish almost bareable :o Seriously, I had a blast because of you guys and girl. Special thanks to Z for a strong bike that would not do anything wrong even if I made mistakes on it. :squid:

hey Tom I am glad to have some one else on an sv learning to race with me! You were looking sharp out there. Thanks again for those needle shims.

[RacR4JC]

who's up for the next one?

[GetnJgyWitit]

I won't be there till February

[Kurt'sSV]

I'll be there. Crap, I'd better register.

[oren]

I'll be there but not sure whether I'll be out riding yet.

I wait to preregister when I have a five day forecast to look at. :)

[jadeblue1]

i'll be getting my first one out of the way-at least when your helmet's on no one can hear you scream...:D

[Slaughter]

I'm trying to convince the hand surgeon that we "don't really use the left hand too often"

Next Wednesday, I go back for a follow-up and bring in my glove and he'll tell me what he thinks.

[RacR4JC]

haha, what happened steve?

[Slaughter]

Well, last race weekend, I was unloading the bike and it started to tip over. The tie-down was still attached to the fork leg on my side and I grabbed the bar with my right hand and just instinctively grabbed the steering damper with my left hand.

The tie-down tightened up when the bike tipped, steering went full right, steering damper smashed 2 fingers. Stripped the skin off the inside of one finger about 1 square inch, stripped the skin and tore the nail out on the other. Too much skin was gone for stitches so I had to go for skin grafts.

Now I have a plastic thingy stitched into where the nail was and shoved back up underneath the cuticle and stitched in place. This is so it won't heal shut before the nail grows back out. The stitches have to stay in until the nail comes out - maybe another month.

Crashing sucks but crashing ON THE TRAILER??? Geeeez!

Maybe I'll take a picture of the nail. See if any of the ladies want to use my manicurist. :D

The place where the skin was grafted - didn't know that he'd peel it off after just 2 weeks

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/403336/Finger2.jpg

The doc stitched the tip of the other finger closed then shoved this plastic piece up under the cuticle and then tacked it back under it with a couple stitches and one stitch at the tip to hold the thing down. The stitches have to stay in for maybe another month

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/403336/Finger1.jpg

Doesn't really hurt but if I catch an edge of the plastic in the glove, it will tear. The doc thinks I might be able to use a cut-off rubber glove fingertip over the top of the plastic piece and then slide it into the race glove - that's what we're going to look at next Wednesday

It was funny in a weird way. I washed off the bleeding fingers, fixed a cracked fairing with white ductape, washed the blood off the bike - wrapped the fingers up with sticky gauze and rode the bike up to tech inspection. The inspector is walking around looking at the bike while my 2 fingers are just bleeding through the gauze and dripping onto the pavement. He told me "I'll pass your bike but I'm not letting YOU on the track unless the paramedics tell me you're good to go" I go over to the paramedics, they re- wash and re-bandage the fingers and say they're going to tell Tech that I'm not to be allowed onto the track UNLESS I come back with a doctor's approval... so away I go.

One BIG thing I learned - NEVER use peroxide in an open wound!!! It destroys ALL cells - healthy and otherwise. Use water - or sterile saline if you have it. Saline is prescription (go figure - there's gotta be a big black market in saline... "pssst buddy, wanna buy a kilo of salt water?"):D But you can get your doctor to get you a prescription the next time you go in - just so you can have some in your first aid kit.

ALSO- Xeroform (tm) gauze pads!!! If any of you are as wimpy as I am about tearing open fresh wounds when you peel gauze off when changing bandages, get Xeroform gauze and put it in your first aid kit. Perfect for dressing wounds such as abrasions/raspberres, open wounds, burns - any wound you will have to be changing dressings more than once. This is a petroleum jelly and antibacterial loose gauze that DOESN'T STICK to the wound if you put on 2-3 layers!!! Good stuff. It made changing the dressings twice a day a tolerable thing.

[oren]

Steve, no more pictures! :D

[Bogie]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[twf]

was that buel?:)

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by twf
was that buel?:)

Bwahahahahahahah :lol:

Fack those were some gross pictures, and I just scrolled by them as fast as I could.

You can crash anything well, Steve!

[RacR4JC]

sorry i asked!!!

[Slaughter]

Yes, Zoran, it was the Buell...

I still have the SV in pieces mounting bodywork. Still need to check forks to see if they are straighten-able.

Note to racers: if you can't stop bleeding and still want to race, have a friend tech your bike for you!

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by Slaughter
Yes, Zoran, it was the Buell...

I still have the SV in pieces mounting bodywork. Still need to check forks to see if they are straighten-able.

Note to racers: if you can't stop bleeding and still want to race, have a friend tech your bike for you!

Note to racers: if you can't stop bleeding and still want to race, pack up your shit anyways and go to the hospital! Steve, there are no world titles on the line here buddy, heal up.

[jasinner]

Carbon fiber finger nails....sweet! Thats a what, .00001 gram weight reduction right?!

[HoolieB]

Originally posted by oren
Steve, no more pictures! :D

:-& Those photos and my cheese danish did not mix well...

Hope you heal quickly!

[Slaughter]

Originally posted by GetnJgyWitit
Note to racers: if you can't stop bleeding and still want to race, pack up your shit anyways and go to the hospital! Steve, there are no world titles on the line here buddy, heal up.

Yeah - I'll most likely come out to be pit beyotch for a couple buddies doing New Racer School.

The doc is going to give me some taping-up instructions on the plastic finger IF he thinks it has healed well enough to put in a glove. He'll trim the plastic insert smaller to fit the glove better (he said I should have told him ahead of time that I was going to want to slide it into a glove - he'd have trimmed it smaller to start with)

The graft on the other finger is already healed and flexible enough to get full motion - it's that fingernail that is kinda fragile.

Might just be on my butt for another month but I'll come out to play one way or another. Living close has advantages.

[oren]

Originally posted by Slaughter

Might just be on my butt for another month but I'll come out to play one way or another. Living close has advantages.

If you need a ride there, PM me. I'm thinking of not racing January and just watching.

[Slaughter]

Thanks Oren but it's healing really well.

Put it in a rubber glove to keep from snagging the stitches and it goes into the motorcycle glove really nicely.

We'll see if I race or not but I'll be out to help in the pits for a few friends doing new racer school. Kinda nice living close.

[RacR4JC]

i thoroughly enjoyed this weekend @ the springs. not too hot, not too cold. it was cool the graves boys made it out too!

[oren]

It was cool to see Graves and Buckmaster out there, but Jason Perez really stole the show this weekend.

[RacR4JC]

yah, but buckmaster chased him down in the 650 race from 22nd on the grid... lol

[Shizznid]

Kurt,

Good to see you and Shandra out there, congrats on the 2nd place finish on your 1st race! Here's a few pics oof your 2nd race.

Sara and I had to leave before Shandra's race, how'd she do?

(If you want the high-res versions of these pics, email me.)

-Zack

[Shizznid]

One more...

[Slaughter]

SHANDRA!!! Waaay to go! It was waaay cool watching you pull that EX500 - you two had a battle there - Sunny and I were up in the cheap seats cheering you on!

There was a lady on a 125 in lightweight novice that was kicking ass - she'd have cleaned the leader's clock - but he was on a 250. She'd get him in the turns, he'd out pull her on power on the straight.

Watta great weekend!

Kurt and Kenny are getting seriously quick out there!

I can't really do justice to a race report (especially since the SV is still on the disabled list) - missing most of the last 6 months has seriously taken a toll on my lap times!

My primary sponsor did now pick up Middleweight Twins. It's gonna get noisy in a few months when a new crop of Buells gets outta novice!

Great weekend!

[sunrisesvrider]

Steve, you may not be turning fast lap times yet. But, you are by far the loudest bike on the track!
Shandra - Kurt, Ron, and I were cheering you on standing in the back of my truck.=D>
Kurt, had the most fun watching you race. You made the old man proud!:D
Look forward to next month's race.

[Slaughter]

Dave, you should see Kurt on the track!

He gets really small really quick!

Just guessing, he's gotta be down consistently in low 33's or 32's now.

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by Slaughter

My primary sponsor did now pick up Middleweight Twins. It's gonna get noisy in a few months when a new crop of Buells gets outta novice!



No shat! That's cool that Harley of Glendale picked up MWT 'cause that has seemed to give an influx of bikes to that class. Too bad those 883's and XB12's are faster in the straights than the SV (fortunately most of those guys didn't seemed to know how to take turn 9 very well, though).

None of the fast people were out there for 550SB this month so Kenny and I tore it up (he tore it up just a bit more than I did and got the win).

Having the transponders is cool 'cause when they post your fastest lap time of the race, there can't be any more BS about how fast you are. My fastest time in 550 was a 1.33.16 and in MWT I did a 1.32.96.

And thanks for taking those picks, Zack. It's weird to see green stuff on the ground out there. Makes it looks like the track isn't out in the middle of a barren desert.

[Slaughter]

HOW ABOUT THAT BRADLEY ADAMS!!

I loaned him my SV one weekend last year when I couldn't race and I stopped by to ask how he's adapting to the TZ 250 - he said that it's taking some getting used to.

THEN he goes out and comes in SECOND in his first-ever race on it! He was turning low 1:26 laps!

What's gonna happen when he "gets used to" the bike?

Funny - the other race organizations won't let him ride a bike bigger than 500cc because of his age - so he can only run the SV at willow... so they go out and get a bike with 15 more HP and 100 pounds lighter!!!

GO BRADLEY ADAMS!=D> :worthy:

Kurt - having transponders SUCKS because now EVERYBODY knows how slow I'm going within minutes of the race or practice finishing!

You and Kenny are kicking ASS - good going!

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by Slaughter
HOW ABOUT THAT BRADLEY ADAMS!!



AMA privateer in 2007?

[Slaughter]

Kurt - having transponders SUCKS because now EVERYBODY knows how slow I'm going within minutes of the race or practice finishing!

Hey - shaddup about this downplaying your kick-ass finish!

Take your points - you both deserve them!

A Podium finish is nothing to sneeze at!

http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=11393

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by Slaughter

http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=11393

If you go all the way to the bottom of that page you'll see Shandra's name under the LWN race as well!

[jasinner]

This sounds like entirely too much fun.

Just you wait.

Someday.

I hope.

[jadeblue1]

wow- what a great race day! perfect weather, no wind, (although having my race bumped from 13th to 18th was a little bit of a bummer). kurt & kenny dicing it up in race #1 was awesome to watch-that one really did go right down to the finish line.
slaughter-you did a good job on the buell w/the straight arm shift technique (you need to get your sv out there next time)
(my bike is still louder than yours:D )
ubermensch(tom) had a really good day too-in the middle of the ax murderer class pulling a 1:39!(btw the bike in front of you was an r6 & you were :45 sec of his tail)
i had a lot of fun doing kurt's patented "turn 1" pass manuever on that ex500:D :D
& i got to meet the original owner of my fzr-she drove it off the showroom floor in '88, converted it & raced it at willow. very cool.
can't wait until next month!

[GetnJgyWitit]

Congrats to you Kurt and Kenny. Shandra! You Rock! Damn I wish I could have been there!

[Slaughter]

People ought to come out and just watch Club Racing!

You can hang in the pits, really check out what's being done.

For the price of a Friday night movie ($10) - you get "Access All Areas" for a weekend.

And Shandra, you're right - I gotta get the SV out and scooting again! I just picked up a set of Gixxer race bodywork and when I get some time, I gotta pull the forks to check for straightness - then it's "some assembly required!"

Have you met Jane Schwartzkopf yet? She's another Nervice L/W Fizzer racer. We were up in the stands and she's asking: "who's the new chick on the Fizzer?" (she's missed the last 5-6 races because of mechanical or schedule problems)

[GetnJgyWitit]

Originally posted by Slaughter
People ought to come out and just watch Club Racing!

You can hang in the pits, really check out what's being done.

For the price of a Friday night movie ($10) - you get "Access All Areas" for a weekend.

And Shandra, you're right - I gotta get the SV out and scooting again! I just picked up a set of Gixxer race bodywork and when I get some time, I gotta pull the forks to check for straightness - then it's "some assembly required!"

I agree! if we could get some sv supporters out there that would be awesome!

[Tom]

As close as that finish was in 550sbk, it would have been even closer had Kurt been geared a little better! Maybe it'll be even more exciting next month ;)

Thanks for grabbing my times, Shandra. Most of them weren't really accurate because there was a swarm of 600's towing me :) They were a lot slower this month, but I won't complain.

[Kurt'sSV]

Hey, did any of you notice the lack of grip out there? The track was a bit dirty in places, but I guess the lack of laid down rubber was the culprit. Coming out of 9 I felt like I was on ice, especially by the end of the MWT race because I had totally used up the right side of my rear tire. I had the thing wanting to swap ends on me in 4b on the 6th lap. Never had that happen before. It was like hitting a patch of mud on a dirt bike. Turn 8 really F'ed up my tires. Both the front and rear had ripples on them like the tire was burned. I slid all the way around 2 as well. Sure made it exciting.

[coyn586]

Kurt.. I didn't notice a lack of Grip at all.. Quite the contrary really.. Rudy and I both did our fastest laptimes.

[Kurt'sSV]

I did my fastest ever lap times, too. It may have been heat cycled tires and suspension.

[RacR4JC]

i had soft compound michelins on my bike, they wore out by the end of the day, i was sideways coming out of 2, 4, & 9. track was dirty as well. BOTT MW was fun, I had a great battle with pinson, man was it close! when we lined up for f-twins, he goes "is that a 1000?" <~~~ best part of the day was that little conversation. "no, it's a 650."

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by RacR4JC
"is that a 1000?" <~~~ best part of the day was that little conversation. "no, it's a 650."

Hahahaha!!! :lol: That's sweet! I wonder if he felt stupd after that?

[Kurt]

Congrats to both Ken and Kurt, great job.

how are the new transmitters working out?

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by Kurt
Congrats to both Ken and Kurt, great job.

how are the new transmitters working out?

It's still in the testing stages but it must have worked fine for me 'cause they posted my fastest lap time and overall race time for both the races I did. I just carried mine in the pocket of my leathers.

[Slaughter]

Transponders suck.

Now EVERYBODY knows how slow I"m running within a few minutes of finishing.

Eric may come off as a hick (depending on what you feel about a Georgia Tech grad) but we pitted together when racing the same classes last year and I was on my SV.

Might have been a back-handed compliment - though ya never know. He'd said the same sorta thing when I broke 35 the first time.

Still doesn't take away from how y'alls be doin'

[twf]

Originally posted by RacR4JC
i had soft compound michelins on my bike, they wore out by the end of the day,

you both use brakes to much and wearing tires :)
dont brake so much,have mid corner speed and you want have to get on throttle so hard and destroy tire.

[oren]

The solution then is to disable Kurt's brakes and his tires will last forever! Granted there will be a huge wreck down in Turn 3 but the tires will look like new.

[Kurt'sSV]

Yeah! Ha-ha. (Shut up, you)

[sr9004u]

Hey Kurt you made the Roadracing world Web page again:D

[RacR4JC]

here we go again kiddies! rain anyone?

[Kurt'sSV]

I'm expecting it NOT to rain on Sunday. Shandra will be out there for Friday practice if the rain continues to hold off.

[Slaughter]

I'm heading out tomorrow.

If it does turn to shit, Shandra can get her cornerworker duty out of the way and not waste a good day later.

If I punt the day tomorrow, I'll just roll the carryover into another race on Sunday - take 3 Twins races and F-50

I've been sideways on Diablo Corsa in the rain on the street so know they're traction-limited in WET but do pretty well in spotty track conditions.

That being said, I'm loading slicks onto the wheels tomorrow... maybe Diablo Corsa on the second set of wheels.

[jadeblue1]

rain stinks !!! it did dry up for most of the races though, however it did start up just in time for slaughter's & my last race of the day.

steve-hope you're ok-please post up when you can & let us know how yyou're doing!

jiggy & shaggy-great race you guys!!
shaggy, you spanked the front line into submission=D> :vic: :worthy:
jiggy, excellent passing!!:D :groove: & thanks for the help with kurt's bike & stuff

hope next month is sunny & warm...

[Tom]

I couldn't make it this weekend :(

How'd everyone do? Results are not on RRW yet and, yes, I am that antsy.

Kurt, I'm in your area a lot. Let me know whenever you want me to drop off the tool.

[twf]

what happened with Steve?

[jadeblue1]

not sure-he crashed during the 550 superbike race on turn 3(?) & was picked up by the ambulance-didn't see what happened to him or his bike.

[coyn586]

I basically blew a motor in my mod prod race.. :sad:


and team mate Rudy, crashed his pile in Superstock.

BUMMER!

[jadeblue1]

from the wsmc board about steve-he apparently highsided in 1 & got hit by his bike:

First off I'm not Slaughter but the lady with the newest facts.

Steve does have a broken collar bone and two back ribs. The "CAT" scan showed bleeding in the brain. Steve is being held over night for observation and another "CAT" scan in the morning. If things look stable Steve will be released tomorrow.

Thanks to all that came to the hospital to show their support. It is deeply appreicated. Thanks to for all the prayers.

I will post again when I get more information.

Sunny
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WSMC #604
Glendale HD/Buell http://www.glendaleharley.com
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[Kurt'sSV]

Crap, didn't know Steve got hurt that bad. Hope he recovers okay.

No race report from me this month. Before I could complete 3 turns in the first warm-up session, I fell down - hurt myself. I even had rain tires on, but I guess they gave me too much confidence. Good thing I know how to relocate my shoulder by myself, 'cause the ambulance people weren't going to touch me.

Shaggy kicked ass in MWN. Jiggy had some nice passes in 8. He passed two people at once on the second lap.

Thanks for helping me with putting my shoulder back in socket the second time I dislocated it yesterday, Jiggy.

[RacR4JC]

dang, hope steve is ok! sorry to hear you crashed kurt, thats a bad deal. i decided not to show up this month. if i wanted to get wet, i'd go to a jetski race, lol. glad the rest of you had a good day!

[morbidelli17]

Please let us know how Steve is progressing; and ya know, I think the FIRST shoulder separation of the day is a warning sign from the universe ...:D

Hope you're feeling better, Kurt.

How's the bike?

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by morbidelli17

Hope you're feeling better, Kurt.

How's the bike?

The bike is actually okay because I was going so slow when I fell over. The only thing I would have needed to put back on the bike to race was a left rearset bracket. The peg and the shift lever survived the crash, and I got those pieces back a few hours later (thanks, crashtruck guys). The wind screen broke, but I'll just put the stock one back on there because that double-bubble wasn't worth $50. I will have to dump a couple hundred bucks into buying new tail plastics. The stock stuff shattered pretty good. Though I will be putting up my Targa seat cowl and Burst undertail in the for sale section next week. :)

[sandie]

holy cow...is this the shoulder that you keep having surgery on?

wow, you racers, be careful out there!

[RacR4JC]

any word on steve?

[Slaughter]

Here's the deal:

I finished Formula Twins in the ambulance at AVHMC

Subdural hematoma - kept me in ICU for 2 days being woken up every hour to check brain function. Followed by one day in Critical Care unit - released on day 4. If it had gotten worse, they'd have had to open my skull. They can't do any other surgery until most of the subdural hematoma gets reabsorbed.

In addition to the alien life form implanted and living in my head:

Broken left ankle - Talus - not displaced, splinted.
Broken left Collarbone
2 cracked ribs where they join my spine between the shoulder bades
2 chipped vertebra

I can't remember anything from the time I put on my gloves until I was loaded into the ambulance - so the following is from talking to folks in the stands and Johnny (749 Duc) - who was behind me when it happened. I was 3rd going into T1 and was sliding to the outside exiting 1. johnny said it looked like a controlled slide until I ran out of track, rolled off to avoid sliding off - the bike hooked up and I executed a perfect "Flying Gumby" hi-side. Johnny was pretty cool - called me in the hospital - he thought he may have hit me after I came off (I don't think so - I think the rubber on my helmet is from my own bike)

The bike pounded me into the mud. Side case broke my Arai helmet and I think either the footpeg or swing-arm slider took out the collarbone. Brain and back injury were likely from the bike landing on top of me.

I'll be out of racing at least 2 months - probably more due to medical $$$.

I've got good insurance that allows me to see any specialist without BS - BUT I may have to pick-up the differences in what they charge and what Aetna pays. Oh well... might mean more debt but the main thing is that I'll be getting good care. That was a decision I consciously made when getting the insurance so while I can get good care, it might mean missing a whole lot more racing than I'd like

All for now - 1-hand typing is a pain but I'm stuck at home, BORED

[druiid]

Damn dude. Hope you heal fast and well. Sorry to hear about crashing!

[jadeblue1]

glad to hear you're doing better steve- but i think you should change your handle from slaughter to "el gato" because you seem to have 9 lives...however you may have used up 6 of them...:D :D

glad to hear nothing serious & it'll all heal & that you have good insurance

ps-please tell sunny i said hello...

[speedkelly]

Hi steve........sorry to here about the accident...crashing sucks,we can all agree on that.......hope you heal up quickly...from my exsperience,the older you get the longer the healling takes...good luck....steve kelly

[cyclox]

Steve,

Sorry to hear about the crash and the aftermath. Take care of those injuries, particularly the bump on the head. Concussions (and subdural bleeds :eek: ) are serious things. You might want to avoid activities that have a high risk of head impact, since the effects of successive head injuries are multiplied (ask Muhammad Ali about that...).

Heal up fast!

[Slaughter]

Originally posted by cyclox
Steve,

Sorry to hear about the crash and the aftermath. Take care of those injuries, particularly the bump on the head. Concussions (and subdural bleeds :eek: ) are serious things. You might want to avoid activities that have a high risk of head impact, since the effects of successive head injuries are multiplied (ask Muhammad Ali about that...).

Heal up fast!

Yeah - that was something I kidded the neurologist about - my day job has me beating my head against a wall so many times that maybe they'll cut me some slack.

Yes - the subdural bleed is a truly bad thing.

Originally posted by speedkelly
Hi steve........sorry to here about the accident...crashing sucks,we can all agree on that.......hope you heal up quickly...from my exsperience,the older you get the longer the healling takes...good luck....steve kelly

Hey - who said anything about old??

Do I detect an age-ist remark???

I'm turning you over to the board op!

(and yeah, I wonder how many licensed racers are also card-carrying AARP members?)

[cyclox]

Originally posted by Slaughter
Yeah - that was something I kidded the neurologist about - my day job has me beating my head against a wall so many times that maybe they'll cut me some slack.


:lol:

I once got a chance to observe the surgery they do for increased intracerebral pressure. There's a special drill that stops once you get through the skull. Then they put a shunt in to drain off the extra fluid that's causing the pressure increase. I started wearing my bicycle helmet all the time after seeing that (this was pre-motorcycling for me).

For hematomas, a more invasive approach is sometimes needed if the bleeding doesn't stop or the hematoma is large (they have to make a big hole in the skull and dura, remove the clot, find the bleeder and clamp/cauterize/suture it). Not good.

From the sound of it, you're en route to recovery, which is great news.