"Motorcycles Are Bad"

[Darth Lefty]

On my way out of the pool hall from this week's league games, I was stopped by the (gorgeous) female member of our team, and subjected to a 20-minute sermon on how bad motorcycles are. She seemed to find wells of concern for me that were not previously apparent, as soon as I put on my jacket and grabbed my helmet. She works in the health field, plus her brother was hurt badly on a bike ten years ago, so she was pretty passionate about it.

I clammed up for most of it except to thank her for her concern. I had nowhere to go but home and I like the lady. I figured to let her have her say.

Anyone else have a similar experience? What if anything do you do about it?

[Irk]

I think she digs you.

[sugart!ts]

ask if you stop riding your bike, can you ride her instead

[The Fed]

My wife had a horrible experience in high shool on a motorcycle. The rider ultimately died at the scene due to head trauma. (No helmet) She walked away severely scared (physically and emotionally). It took me almost five years of convincing her that I would not spontaneously combust if I rode a motorcycle. I love my wife very much and it means the world to me that she was able to get past her experience and let the one she loves take up such a dangerous hobby. She realizes how much riding means too me. Unlike her, I've had nothing but wonderful and exciting experiences on motorcycles. I knew all of this before I married her. I took a chance and I got lucky. Now I just have to wait for the damn 2007's to hit the showroom floors and I'll be in business!

[Punkbrad]

most places i go i hear - "they are so dangerous" i carry my helmet into a store and some nice lady lectures me on how careful i need to be - its a genuine concern - and most all of us know someone who was hurt or God forbid killed on a motorcycle - or have crashed ourselves.

its just a matter of cost / benefit analysis. If you love the ride, but know the dangers - thats it. People die doing all sorts of stuff, swimming, drinking booze, having sex, jeez - just walkin down the street whistling a tune! does that mean that people avoid these activities? no - you just have to be more cognizant on a motorcycle than say - walking down the street whistling a tune - thats all......

and let us know when you take down the hottie in your pool hall - shes hurtin for a squirtin - and it sounds like she wants you to administer said squirtin!!! good luck young Jedi.

[I say]

Originally posted by joose
ask if you stop riding your bike, can you ride her instead

hahaha.

I've done that...it didn;t work, though :(

Who knows, though maybe your bike is shinier.

[Kurt'sSV]

One of the attorneys here has brow beat me for years about riding motorcycles. He's always telling me how I can get killed on one, as he's taking his 10th smoking break of the day. I just finally told him that until he quits smoking he need not bother lecturing me about safety and health concerns.

Fucking attorneys. :rolleyes:

[Dragonhawk]

I've noticed that people who lecture motorcyclists about the dangers of riding are usually so dull and boring and "safe" and conservative in the way they live their lives, they might as well be dead already.

I don't think taking advice from the dead is a good idea. I mean, haven't you seen any horror movies? That's never a smart move!

[Burke]

I've had it happen to me before. You just gotta shrug your shoulders and walk away. Tell them "Thanks for the concern but It's my choice and this is the choice I make." Then, like joose said... Ask if she wants to "Bang"... :horny:

[SVNerd]

Darth - I run into this regularly. Unfortunately, they aren't all attractive young ladies :(

The "usual" noise is from non-riders (that is, never-ridden), who knew a so-and-so, that had such-and-such happen, etc. I've heard all the slander about "murdercycles", "donorcycles", etc.

I've seen my own share of really horrible traumas where a motorcycle was involved. Some were clearly due to cagers' innattention, drunkeness, and in one case a driver on a murderous rage (where a friend - a Cat 1 bicycle racer - lost his leg, and 4 others were literally murdered with a van).

Most of these events however, have been a result of poor judgement, innattention, and even drunkeness (or other substance use) on behalf of the motorcyclist.

At this point, I simply agree with those that view motorcycling as "dangerous": I go so far to point out that riding motorcycles is inherently riskier (in terms of personal injury) than any other form of conveyance on public roads.

Then I tell them why this is. In as rational, and logical manner as I can muster. I tell them about driver's inattention; untrained, inexperienced and irresponsible motorcyclists; and a little of the demographics of WHO is getting killed, and why. My goal being to heighten their awareness of motorcyclists, on occasion explaining to them why we're "invisible". I don't present any false illusions of motorcycles being "safe".

You may find this incredible, but when people approach me on the prospect that they would like to get into motorcycling, more often than not, I try to discourage them - dependent on what I know about their general behavior, familial situation, mental focus, etc.

Darth - you know well that motorcycling is not for everyone, and I might argue that its not for MOST people. Let her have her say, but perhaps share with her the cold hard - honest - facts about motorcycling, maybe injecting what joy it brings you personally. She might be impressed (or at least respect you) that you're actually conscious of the fact that its risky, and of what you do minimize the risk (e.g. wear gear, don't behave like a total idiot, don't ride after beers, ...).

If nothing else, through the process of this exchange, you may encourage more attentive driving on her part. We'd all benefit from that.

[steveb]

I'm old enough people don't bother me with little details like dying.

In the past I told them the truth. All my long term friends who didn't ride motorcycles are dead from one illness or mishap or another, and none of my motorcycle riding friends has died.

I think for some, riding a motorcycle makes you appreciate life more, elevates your senses, and prolongs your long happy life.

[bear308]

I've gotten this kind of static from a lot of people I'm meeting lately. My first response is "do you talk on the phone when driving?" When they say yes, "Well it's pretty dangerous around your car":mad: It really gets my nickers in a twist when someone I know can't drive a car for shit is giving me gruff for my "dangerous" hobby.

btw +1 on the "ride her" responses / this thread is useless without pics.

[Rsimpson]

My mom is a nurse, so she sees the worst of it. She particularly gave me a nice long graphic description of what its like to clean road rash...

She also rides a horse and has gotten thrown off that a few times... We all have our dangerous hobbies

[Burke]

Originally posted by SVNerd
If nothing else, through the process of this exchange, you may encourage more attentive driving on her part. We'd all benefit from that.

And maybe you'll get a little... :horny:

;)

[TwistGrip]

Originally posted by Darth Lefty
... as soon as I put on my jacket and grabbed my helmet.
Well, see, you're doing your best to mitigte the inherent risks of riding a bike. Gear is your friend. People seem to find our protective gear as an invitation (or solicitation) for this kind of "advice" no matter how negative it becomes.

My question is; how do people in Los Angeles NOT ride motorcycles? The traffic is so horrible and fuel costs so much and parking is miserable and there are so many stoplights and everyone is grumpy in their cars... motorcycles take care of all of that. I do errands in half the time on my moto, have fun, save gas... win, win, win.

But if I were a non-rider, those "crazy bikers" lanesplitting and filtering and riding the highways would look dangerous to me from the safety of my insulated cage. The first time I took my sister for a ride on the back of a moto she commented, "it's so stable, I thought it would feel tippy." Until people ride, they have no idea.

Ask her out, take her for a ride and she might change her tune.
-EB

[malkey]

Originally posted by Irk
I think she digs you. Umm have you ever seen him? :p ;)

[SVranger]

Just because I ride, telling me you know someone, or you know someone who knows someone who had a terrible accident on a moto (insert bloody details) does not usually qualify as small talk. On the other hand, I never feel any malice is intended. Thanks for your concern and I mosy along.

[newbie]

I'm not sure if any of you guys read one of my threads about showing up to a job interview on my bike and in my gear. The owner of the company did not appreciate the fact that I rode a motorcycle. In fact, he found it to be one reason to hold me back from getting the job. He thoroughly lectured me on the inherent dangers of riding.

I found out much later after I didn't get the job why I didn't get it. It was mainly due to the fact that I commute on a motorcycle and not in car. The secondary reason was because they thought they could not keep my interest, but really I find that as a BS move.

Question is...do I have any recourse? Maybe...is it worth it? Probably not...the industry I'm is pretty tight and I might find some backlash for it.

And yes...I get feedback from people all the time about how "dangerous" motorcycle riding is. I get this especially from the people that know I have been down two times now. They actually are quite surprised when they find out I'm continuing to ride.

[Kyoseki]

50,000 car drivers are killed every year.

Motorcycles are dangerous, but cars aren't much safer, people just seem to act invincible and oblivious inside their little metal boxes.

[SteveT]

i like: "WHAT?! Motorcycles are dangerous?!?! PEOPLE DIE??? OMG!!!! I'm never riding again!!!!" then pause :| and walk away.

[CC_05_SV]

My freinds mom works in the IC (intensive care) at our local hospital, when she found out I got a bike I figured she would give a nice long lecture but she didn't she just said to be careful. Riding motorcycles is dangerous but it wouldn't be so bad if everyone around you wasn't on their cellphone, petting their ugly lap dog, putting on makeup, or trying to smack their kids in the backseat.

[Velcro]

Talk about ironic. This guy Reggie I work with says the most stupid shit anyone can say to me "don't kill yourself on that thing" um okay ass hole. A week later he's in here showing me some stupid EasyRider magazine talking about he wants a custom chopper. I could see him now puttn along with his vest and jello bowl lid. Dickhead...perfect thread to vent:mad:

[J.Moto]

"Alright, I'm off to die. Guess I won't see ya later!" *Put crash helmet on*

[SVNerd]

Originally posted by Kyoseki
50,000 car drivers are killed every year.

Motorcycles are dangerous, but cars aren't much safer, people just seem to act invincible and oblivious inside their little metal boxes.

OK Kyoseki - you know that this is a completely biased statement as it stands.

To compare death toll, or other incident rate, this number has to be weighted with something meaningful, like the oft used Fatality Rate per 100X10^6 (100 million) miles traveled, or the Fatality Rate per 100,000 registered vehicles.

In 2005 for instance, motorcyclists were 34 times more likely than passenger car occupants to die in a crash in 2005, per vehicle mile traveled, and 8 times more likely to be injured.

Seems to me that these numbers indicate that motorcycles are far riskier than passenger cars and light trucks.

I also find these numbers to not only be objective, but reasonably accurate. They're taken from U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's reports:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov

(search various years and stats on "Motorcycle Fatalities").

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/ncsa/tsf2005/motorcyclestsf05.pdf

You can cry "conspiracy" now if you want :D

Originally posted by Velcro
Talk about ironic. This guy Reggie I work with says the most stupid shit anyone can say to me "don't kill yourself on that thing" um okay ass hole. A week later he's in here showing me some stupid EasyRider magazine talking about he wants a custom chopper. I could see him now puttn along with his vest and jello bowl lid. Dickhead...perfect thread to vent:mad:


OK Velcro - Reggie may be an asshole (I obviously don't know him ...), but he probably meant well when he said "don't kill yourself on that thing". He probably doesn't want to see you kill yourself on your bike, anymore than the rest of us would (except for maybe some ex-girlfriends ... :D)

[Kyoseki]

Originally posted by SVNerd
OK Kyoseki - you know that this is a completely biased statement as it stands.

...

In 2005 for instance, motorcyclists were 34 times more likely than passenger car occupants to die in a crash in 2005, per vehicle mile traveled, and 8 times more likely to be injured.

Per vehicle mile is a particularly spurious argument, look at the first table in the link you posted, despite a 60% increase in registered motorcycles that total miles travelled by motorcycles remained constant (remember, this is not a per motorcycle number), does that make any sense to you?

Apparently a lot of people (about 2 million) bought motorcycles to just let them rust in their garage.

States just pull the "vehicle miles travelled" number quite literally out of their ass, it's not measured in any way shape or form.

Comparing them to registered vehicles, you find that the fatality rate for cars ranges between 11 (minivans) and 18 (compacts), compared to the 70 for bikes (bizarrely, full sized SUVs are less safe than minivans at 12.5).

I make that roughly 3-6 times more likely to be killed, not the 34 that the vehicle miles statistic comes up with.

If you dig up UK statistics, you'll find that the rate for motorcyclists killed or seriously injured, it's something like a quarter of the US's rate (again, per registered vehicle), I'm putting that down purely to training, because I can assure you that car drivers are no better over there.

In other words, you're as likely to die in a compact car here in the US as you are on a motorcycle in the UK, so how is that the motorcycle gets the blame?

Stupidity kills, that's a fact I can live with :)

[SVOC]

I'd rather take the chance of dying on my motorcycle than living a looong, boring, and 'safe' life. Almost all good things have some amount of risk involved.

If you live life without risk, you risk wasting your life!!!!!

[SVNerd]

Originally posted by Kyoseki
Per vehicle mile is a particularly spurious argument ... does that make any sense to you?

Apparently a lot of people (about 2 million) bought motorcycles to just let them rust in their garage.

States just pull the "vehicle miles travelled" number quite literally out of their ass ...

Comparing them to registered vehicles, you find that the fatality rate for cars ranges between 11 (minivans) and 18 (compacts), compared to the 70 for bikes (bizarrely, full sized SUVs are less safe than minivans at 12.5).

I make that roughly 3-6 times more likely to be killed, not the 34 that the vehicle miles statistic comes up with.

If you dig up UK statistics ...

In other words, you're as likely to die in a compact car here in the US as you are on a motorcycle in the UK ...

Stupidity kills, that's a fact I can live with :)

While I concur with the fact that stupidity kills - its not the only cause of death, nor is this statement limited to vehicular travel.

Please note that there's no "blame" being placed. I am only trying to point out that as a means of conveyance, that motorcycles are significantly more risky than passenger cars and light trucks. I'm not trying to "judge" these realities, but merely present them, supported by what data I am aware of.

As for what occurs in the UK - I don't see it as relevant, nor have I reviewed any like reports from the UK. The demographics of drivers/riders, driving/riding, and drivers'/riders' educational requirements are distinctive enough to not be comparable. I won't begin to try to address effects of geographical distinctions (including road types and conditions, average velocities per mile , etc.).

I am not the least bit suprised by the number of motorcycles purchased, that as you put it " ... to just let them rust in their garage ...". In our fair land of consumer excess, having a shiny $25K bike in the garage is just another symbol of wealth - even if rarely ridden. Motorcycles in the US are a "luxury good". Another significant factor may be that for many motorcyclists, the number of bikes per rider is greater than one - and increasing. Which isn't to say that - per rider - they ride more cumulative miles per year.

The number of vehicle miles traveled is not arbitrary: it is measured as many statistical samples and extrapolated. It is also confirmed by mileage statements via insurers and/or re-registrations. The uncertainties of these numbers are pretty low BTW.

While also not relevant to the discussion - I am again not suprised that mini vans indicate fewer fatalities per mile than full size SUVs, if for no other reason than the vehicles' respective designs.

Your personal estimate of "3-6 times more likely to be killed" v. 34 is fine, but is unsupported by any data whatsoever. If you have something to share that indicates your estimate is more accurate, I would gladly take a look at whatever you can come up with - but it will have to be US data.

Until then, I can only go by what data we do have (and that our tax dollars paid for). If you want to argue "conspiracy", that's fine by me ;)

[Kyoseki]

Originally posted by SVNerd
As for what occurs in the UK - I don't see it as relevant, nor have I reviewed any like reports from the UK. The demographics of drivers/riders, driving/riding, and drivers'/riders' educational requirements are distinctive enough to not be comparable. I won't begin to try to address effects of geographical distinctions (ncluding road types and conditions).

My point is that if it were motorcycles to blame, then the fatality rate would be the same, the car fatality rate certainly is roughly the same as the US, so that can probably rule out any geographical concerns.

They're the same bikes sold on both sides of the Atlantic.

Training saves lives, a lot of lives.

Originally posted by SVNerd The number of vehicle miles traveled is not arbitrary: it is measured as many statistical samples and extrapolated. It is also confirmed by mileage statements via insurers and/or re-registrations. The uncertainties of these numbers are pretty low BTW.[/B]

Since a lot of states don't even require insurance, I fail to see how this can be the case. I do know that Illinois (I think it was lllinois) for example literallly just guesses at the number, I've also been told that some states also report the number as 0 because it's not worth their while to actually find it out.

That's what we get for being a minority.

Same thing goes for cycling, how can anyone estimate the total bicycle miles travelled per state? And yet they do.
Originally posted by SVNerd
Your personal estimate of "3-6 times more likely to be killed" v. 34 is fine, but is unsupported by any data whatsoever. If you have something to share that indicates your estimate is more accurate, I would gladly take a look at whatever you can come up with - but it will have to be US data.

As I said in my post, I looked at the number of fatilities per 100k registered motorcycles (70) and divided it by the number of fatalities per 100k compact car (17.75), 70/17.75 = 4.

I can't find the report I found earlier that broke it down by vehicle type, but it was US centric, however if you look at page 3 of your report, you see that deaths per 100,000 vehicles for cars is 15, that's motorcycles being only 4.6 times more dangerous than the national average.

These are numbers straight out of the very report you posted.

Bear in mind that if people are buying motorcycles just to let them rust in their garage, they're pretty unlikely to get killed on them aren't they?

Originally posted by SVNerd
Until then, I can only go by what data we do have (and that my tax dollars paid for). If you want to argue "conspiracy", that's fine by me ;)

I'm not arguing conspiracy, I'm just saying it's sheer laziness on the part of the States themselves and an over reliance on questionable data.

[Know Talent]

how does she feel about anal?

[jeff762]

darth, it sounds like she needs a dick in her mouth.

[Busted]

I dont get many lectures about safety, but at gas stations i frequently get "thats all it takes to fill up your tank!" or "what kind of mpg you get on that?" I tell them i can get 38-40 mpg at 80+mph all day long and watch em look longingly at my bike.

[sugart!ts]

Originally posted by Burke
Ask if she wants to "Bang"... :horny:


from now on i am gonna end all conversations with that question..:D

[J.Moto]

Originally posted by Busted
I dont get many lectures about safety, but at gas stations i frequently get "thats all it takes to fill up your tank!" or "what kind of mpg you get on that?" I tell them i can get 38-40 mpg at 80+mph all day long and watch em look longingly at my bike.

My first gen was awesome! 50+ mpg while cruising 80 mph to work.

I would still get another 650....we'll see...got some things to work on before the next bike comes into possession...

[bloodclot]

one time, i walked into a hospital wearing my jacket and holding my helmet. when i went to the nurses desk and asked what room my friend one of the nurses said "oh look, another organ donor..."

i just kinda cocked my head sideways and was dumbfounded for about half a second. i mean, who says that kind of shit to people?

it was all that i would do not to slap the stupid out of her right there. instead, i just said "eat me, bitch". then i turned around and went to see my friend. not really my typical character, but i was at a loss for anything else to say. that was the only thought running through my head after what she said.

she stared me down something fierce when i walked past her on the way out. :D

[agirls]

People ALWAYS tell me to be careful. Complete strangers and family and friends. I just say, of course I am careful. Then I pass them all on the freeway. I really don't feel like dying of old age anyways!

Originally posted by bloodclot
one time, i walked into a hospital wearing my jacket and holding my helmet. when i went to the nurses desk and asked what room my friend one of the nurses said "oh look, another organ donor..."

i just kinda cocked my head sideways and was dumbfounded for about half a second. i mean, who says that kind of shit to people?

it was all that i would do not to slap the stupid out of her right there. instead, i just said "eat me, bitch". then i turned around and went to see my friend. not really my typical character, but i was at a loss for anything else to say. that was the only thought running through my head after what she said.

she stared me down something fierce when i walked past her on the way out. :D

That is some funny shit!!

[Darth Lefty]

This wasn't really about her, but for the "useless without pics" brigade, here you go. I haven't thrown any woo at her, mostly because my game stinks. And Malcolm is right, I'm kind of goofy looking.

[J.Moto]

I'D HIT IT!



WITH A MOTORCYCLE!



Thank you very much! I'm SupaSlida J!

[CC_05_SV]

Originally posted by bloodclot
one time, i walked into a hospital wearing my jacket and holding my helmet. when i went to the nurses desk and asked what room my friend one of the nurses said "oh look, another organ donor..."

i just kinda cocked my head sideways and was dumbfounded for about half a second. i mean, who says that kind of shit to people?

it was all that i would do not to slap the stupid out of her right there. instead, i just said "eat me, bitch". then i turned around and went to see my friend. not really my typical character, but i was at a loss for anything else to say. that was the only thought running through my head after what she said.

she stared me down something fierce when i walked past her on the way out. :D


I don't blame you for saying that, what a bitch. One question though was she obese.

[boardsNbikes]

Originally posted by Dragonhawk
I've noticed that people who lecture motorcyclists about the dangers of riding are usually so dull and boring and "safe" and conservative in the way they live their lives, they might as well be dead already.


+1. People who never have adventure or risk something. People who get seriously bothered by rain. :(

[NukleoN]

Man, if I had an irony meter I think it'd be broken.

Most of the time, riding is dangerous because of all the knuckleheads in their safe cages who can't be bothered to look where they're going...or who dart over the double yellow in or out of the carpool lane....you all know what I mean. I saw one cager cross like 50 lanes of traffic to get on a freeway they might have missed....and with a disturbing lack of urgency.

Anyhooo....yes, motorcycles are more dangerous than cars. Duh. I agree with Kurt, if you're a smoker, STFU and don't say a word about how dangerous motrocycles (or anything) is. Smoking is about the dumbest thing anyone can do (on purpose)....at least motrocycles are fun and have a purpose (and don't give you stink breath or give innocent people cancer, not to mention stinking up otherwise breathable air).

Aside from that.....yes....it's obvious that it's safer not to ride...but then again, it's safer to stay on a plane rather than jumping out with a chute. Hell, it's safer to stay on the ground than getting in the plane. How did you get to the airport? *Gasp*, did you drive? Driving is statistically more dangerous than flying. Hey....what are you eating there? The diet of most Americans could be improved....howzabout we stop trying to kill ourselves with fatty foods already? And zomg.....didn't anyone mention that life is terminal? WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!

So yeah...I ride because life always ends in death...the trouble is, I don't know how I will die, so I plan to enjoy life now. There is no guarantee I will live another year or even another day. I could have a terminal cancer growing inside me, or could be taken out by a killer in a grocery store (ok, not very likely, but it could happen).

The moral of the story is....enjoy your life...it's yours....long as you're not hurting anyone ye may as well make the best of it.

By the way, this thread title really needs a 'hmmmkay' on the end of it. :D

[dietcrack]

Yeah, I get the "concerned citizen lecture about 2-wheeled death machines" all the time. I get it about guns too. Like my motorcycles and guns are gonna gang up and strangle me while I sleep, without any input on my part.

I mean sure, bikes are some amount more dangerous, I guess, but it's damn near impossible to quantify.
A certain amount of the death rate disparity stems from the fact that dangerous aggressive retards are more likely to buy bikes than minivans. If minivans were the cool thing to drive for the immature risky demographic, the stats would start to skew the other way.

What I'd like to see is a study of death stats for cars vs bikes, adjusted to differentiate between bad drivers and good drivers. I'd bet anything that the death rate for moto riders with clean driving records and lots of experience, isn't that bad.

[Monte]

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[LiN Mae]

I remember backing up my bike to a curb to park and a guy walks by saying, "How can a little girl like you ride such a big bike? Isn't it dangerous?" I didn't even know how to respond.

I get the "bikes are dangerous" speech from a lot of random people, I think more so because I'm a female rider. Usually, I just ignore it. :D

[spindarubber]

Wow, HOT and she plays pool, but she doesnt like bikes.


2 outta three aint bad brotha :)

[Kyoseki]

Originally posted by LiN Mae
I remember backing up my bike to a curb to park and a guy walks by saying, "How can a little girl like you ride such a big bike? Isn't it dangerous?" I didn't even know how to respond.
Just fix them with a dead straight stare and tell them the bike isn't nearly as dangerous as you are :)

[agirls]

Originally posted by Kyoseki
Just fix them with a dead straight stare and tell them the bike isn't nearly as dangerous as you are :)

lol, +1

[LiN Mae]

Originally posted by Kyoseki
Just fix them with a dead straight stare and tell them the bike isn't nearly as dangerous as you are :)

Oh, how can I learn to be as witty as you!
;)
:hehe:

[Darth Lefty]

Originally posted by Monte
...
Is that a shirt? Where can I buy it?

[mkleist]

I had a girl at work actually hug me goodbye when I rode my bike into work for the first time.

[gitarjunky]

When someone tells me to be careful I just tell them "Trust me, I don't want to die, even more than you don't want me to die"...seems to work.

[Monte]

Originally posted by Darth Lefty
Is that a shirt? Where can I buy it?
If I told you that, I'd have to kill you, because I already ordered one.

http://www.threadpit.com/








Oops...would you like some Kool-Aid, Dan?

[sugart!ts]

so I rode my bike for the first time to work in about a year... i happened to choose the day that our new dept heads were here for a meeting on the future of the transplant dept for both companies...
lets just say i heard the term "donor cycle" and and the phrase "hope you are an organ donor" about a dozen times today.

[J.Moto]

Your moto works! YAY!

edit: P.S. Don't die!

[jeffmiho]

Originally posted by gitarjunky
When someone tells me to be careful I just tell them "Trust me, I don't want to die, even more than you don't want me to die"...seems to work.

+1

[CookieHarder]

Originally posted by LiN Mae
I remember backing up my bike to a curb to park and a guy walks by saying, "How can a little girl like you ride such a big bike? Isn't it dangerous?" I didn't even know how to respond.

I get the "bikes are dangerous" speech from a lot of random people, I think more so because I'm a female rider. Usually, I just ignore it. :D

I've gotten that maybe once or twice, usually some crazy guy thinking that he's being cute. Its like they don't have anything good to say but they wanna say something.... and out comes crap they think is funny. For the most part though, people now just think its really cool and I feel like I'm changing a lot of people's view on riding. Now I get annoying comments like "wanna race?"

[sandie]

Originally posted by CookieHarder
I've gotten that maybe once or twice, usually some crazy guy thinking that he's being cute. Its like they don't have anything good to say but they wanna say something.... and out comes crap they think is funny. For the most part though, people now just think its really cool and I feel like I'm changing a lot of people's view on riding. Now I get annoying comments like "wanna race?"

hahaha...a couple of weeks ago i was teaching the classroom portion of the MSF-BRC...one of the male students walked into class, looked at me, and exclaimed "YOU RIDE!?!?!"...my resonse "oh NO WAY...it's WAY too dangerous and scary for a girl! i just teach this stuff" ;)

[SVNerd]

Originally posted by sandie
hahaha...a couple of weeks ago i was teaching the classroom portion of the MSF-BRC...one of the male students walked into class, looked at me, and exclaimed "YOU RIDE!?!?!"...my resonse "oh NO WAY...it's WAY too dangerous and scary for a girl! i just teach this stuff" ;)

:lol:

What a dumbass. You should have failed him right then and there.

Maybe you should get one of those t-shirts too :D

[Natedawgg]

I always just tell them that the problem with life is that it's fatal.

[RATT!]

I had a guy stop me in the parking lot today on the way in and said hey be careful this weekend it's gonna rain... and I replied if I go out at all I'll take it easy... and he said it's not you that's not careful...

I thought that was cool, I didn't feel accosted like I usually do when someone lectures me...