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Justlar
Tue 7/2/02, 8:09AM
Trying to decide what to get, looking for comments on others and their full systems.
Looking for a full system, high mount, not 'super' loud, and I want to keep my rear peg. So far I think Leo Vince is going to be the best option. I heard an Arrow which sounded extremely nice (reminded me of a Duke), Micron was not too bad (loud). I believe I lose the peg with either one of these.
Anyone have good/bad things to say about Yosh. or any other systems?
Thanks.
Check out www.Renegade.com You shouldn't look any further. My brother fitted a micron on his SVS but when he heard my Renie he ordered one immidiately. The micron is going on his second bike a Yamaha XJR400. Even Ducatisti are jealous. The only bike sounding better is Valantino's V5.
I think there's a guy in SD who's selling his Leo Vince full system. Akrapovic makes a nice full system but I don't think it's a hi-mount. I've never heard one in person, so I can't comment on it. I have a Renegade slip-on, as I don't think the pipes themselves would make that much of a difference to warrant a full-system. It rocks. Where abouts in SD are you? Wanna go to Palomar Wednesday?
Justlar
Tue 7/2/02, 8:40AM
Yeah, Lee's Cycles near Qualcomm Stadium has a lot of experience with the Leo Vince, it was there I heard the Arrow pipe. Akrapovic is quite nice although I would lose the peg and I am trying to keep it. A company in North County San Diego specializes in Akrapovic distribution, hotbodiesracing.com.
I am near Sea World and have not been to Palomar however can not make it on Wed. Would not mind seeing some other SV's, I got the TCP lowers, undertray and cowl and would like opinions from other SV owners.
Thanks.
neattoes3000
Tue 7/2/02, 12:29PM
If you can make it down to Lees In SD go for it. They are very informative and they have lots of experience setting up SV for max performance. I was actually told that the Yosh pipes are great for every other Suzuki bike except for the SV. I was told to avoid it, and you don't keep the passenger pegs. The Micron system does, but the cyclye tuners at Lees told me that Leo Vince is one of the only pipes that give significant performace gains. I got my jetting down there too and it performs so much better. The Leo pipe is loud, but I love it. You do maintain the passenger pegs, and they don't charge more for the high mount. Everyone who sees it comments on the quality and how nice it sounds. I would definitely recommend the Leo full exhaust.
Craig
SV Crazy RJ
Wed 7/3/02, 2:26PM
Yeah, what Justlar said is right. I spoke with Hugo from Lee's and he says the best way to go is with the Leo Vince. You get around a 5 HP gain, which is a lot for a bike! I am running a full system tri-oval from yoshimura. I looks and sounds really sweet but the there were minimal gains in HP, even with it re-jetted and an air filter! If I could start all over I would get the Leo, but what's done is done and I am still happy.
R.J.
cjdirtbiker
Sat 9/14/02, 1:18AM
I posted this up on the national site so you might see it there too.
I'm thinking real serious about the TBR aluminum slipon for 'bang for the buck' value. But are you guys running a cuttoff stock system with clamp-on can, or the full exhaust system with all new head pipes and collector?
What are the pros and cons?
Has anyone seen or run the Vance and Hines? I find the full system with aluminum can for $400?? Seems like it makes sense for a couple hundred to just get the whole system so the stocker can be put back on if needed or if the next buyer wanted it?
I should I think about the Yosh stainless can?
Thanks!:-?
Seventh Trump
Sat 9/14/02, 6:53AM
I have been running the Vance and Hines full system for several months now, with the carb mods, and am very pleased with both the sound and performance gains. The stainless finish may not be as cool as the TI or carbon cans, but I will keep the saved money instead!:D
Drumrboy
Sat 9/14/02, 9:36AM
I was in the same postion as you about going with a slip on or full system. Ultimately I decided to go with just a slip on as it just made more financial sense for me. I too looked at the TBR aluminum slip on for "bang for the buck" at parts411.com. Although I do my own servicing on my bikes, I generally like low maintenance and don't care for the idea of repacking the exhaust every now and then, which would be required for the TBR. Doing some more research, I found a Scorpion (British company) stainless slip on that has a limited lifetime warranty and never needs repacking according to the manufacturerswebsite (www.scorpion-exhausts.com). If I bought the TBR from parts411, total with shipping and tax to San Diego would have been about $284. I bought the Scorpion from www.discountmotorcycleexhausts.com for a total of $264 (shipping included, no sales tax as they are in Colorado). I should receive it next week and will post some impressions when I have it installed.
Mapuda
Mon 9/16/02, 3:11PM
Anbody have any opinion about Dale Walker's Holeshot Performance? His website www.holeshot.com has a page for the SV. He has a high mount slip-on system for $379.00 and he sells the shims to set up your carb and his system also comes with a coupler that allows you to put your stock system back on for say a track day where they have db limits.
I was thinking of starting with his fender eliminator with the cat-eye blinkers. It is cheaper than the LP unit. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Drumrboy let us know how your Scorpion can works....and sounds!
chacal
Mon 9/16/02, 3:13PM
I never thought much of the holeshot exhaust, the pictures weren't so good..but I saw one the other day on an SVS, and it was gorgeous. Very well put together.
His fender elim w/ the cateye blinkers looks really good. I can't decide whether i'm willing to give up the stock blinkers' visibility, but if I do, that's what I'm gonna buy.
Phil
cjdirtbiker
Mon 9/16/02, 5:41PM
Steve, do you have any pictures of your bike with exhaust system? Is the V&H system all stainless?
I rode with a guy that used to work at V&H and he didn't recommend their system. But he was talking about the chromed headers, he said they used mild steel and the cheapest plater they could find. He said there were a lot of bubble problems.
However, the other fellow I rode with had a V&H system on his old FZR. It still looks good and he thought it was a great system.
Both of them recommended putting a whole system on and keeping the stocker, instead of cutting it off for a can and thus ruining it.
Now comes Holeshot. Yes I looked at their site, and I liked the idea of the sleeve connector so you could re-connect the stock muffler. But for almost $400, I would rather put another hundred or so with it and get a whole system. TBR sells a complete package for just over 5 bills I think, from parts411. I think the Yosh system is right in there too.
I appreciate the input. Keep it coming. The high end systems are really nice, like Micron, Muzzy, even Yoshimura. Some of them are REALLY expensive.
Thanks,
Seventh Trump
Tue 9/17/02, 7:03AM
Chris,
I paid $360 for my V&H full system from Denton Cycle Supply and it has performed well beyond my expectations! The sound is very much like a Ducati and makes the SV the true "shrunken superbike" that it is. From a durability stainpoint, the headers turned purple at the cylinder connection very early and a beautiful gold color to the can. The can is still immaculate with no discoloration. I will not repack the can until 10K miles.
For the money and improvements on both sound and performance, along with the carb mods, I would very much recommend it. If I had access to a digital camera, I would post some photos, but I am out of luck right now.
Enjoy!
Viniteio-181
Tue 10/1/02, 10:09PM
Everyone has their preference, but after fellow members informed me about Parts411.com, I've been looking at all of the lil beauties there are to offer.
After a few hours of looking and comparing, I narrowed it down to two choices. The Scorpion pipe (which some of us were admiring on that girl's (never caught her name) red 01 SVS @ the Gathering), and the trusty old Yoshi. Both have a very good price, and according to others (Mike), Yoshis are easier to install, since you don't have to cut the OEM unit. The only down side is that while $30-$40 separates the stainless versions, the Scorpion can be had for almost $100 less in carbon form - if you're so inclined. Personally, carbon wrapped pipes look out of place on the silver SVs, and I can't stand wiping off water spots and polishing those dastardly stainless units. So, titanium it is; the extra $60-$70 is definitely worth it to have a less troublesome, reasonably priced, yet sublimely attractive unit. I like the sound of the Scorpion....ohhh....and the Yosh is just as good if not better, but different. But, like many other things, you get what you pay for. Shop around.
mistermiata13
Wed 10/2/02, 10:34AM
I've got the V&H full stainless system, K&N air filter and rejetted carbs. It feels very nice and is a noticeable boost in power throughout the rev range. IMO, it doesn't sound as nice as the Scorpion or Yosh RS-3, but it's a load cheaper and should produce similar power gains.
After the Gathering, I'm very tempted to sell my V&H full system and get a Scorpion slip-on. Hopefully that will pass...
Aaron
cjdirtbiker
Wed 10/2/02, 10:47AM
Yep. Listened to and looked at them all at the Gathering.
I liked Aaron's V&H system, and the Scorpion, and the Yosh. Nothing wrong with Aussie's TBR can either. In fact, I haven't seen one I didn't like. And I can't tell much difference in sound from ANY of them. But then, I'm half deaf.
Anyway, my final decision will come down to whether I want to save a few bucks and cut off my stock muffler, or keep it as a spare to go back on if I need it to, hence a full system.
The V&H full system is BY FAR the best buy. And I haven not seen or heard of any complaints about their product. In fact, there are an awful lot of race bikes out there with V&H exhaust systems on them.
Bottom line is the bike looks better, sounds better, and goes better with ANY replacement for that tin can they put on from the factory.
mistermiata13
Wed 10/2/02, 11:08AM
I've got the V&H full stainless system, K&N air filter and rejetted carbs. It feels very nice and is a noticeable boost in power throughout the rev range. IMO, it doesn't sound as nice as the Scorpion or Yosh RS-3, but it's a load cheaper and should produce similar power gains.
After the Gathering, I'm very tempted to sell my V&H full system and get a Scorpion slip-on. Hopefully that will pass...
Aaron
Burst
Wed 10/2/02, 11:12AM
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can't wait!
:D :cool:
mistermiata13
Wed 10/2/02, 11:13AM
I've got the V&H full stainless system, K&N air filter and rejetted carbs. It feels very nice and is a noticeable boost in power throughout the rev range. IMO, it doesn't sound as nice as the Scorpion or Yosh RS-3, but it's a load cheaper and should produce similar power gains.
After the Gathering, I'm very tempted to sell my V&H full system and get a Scorpion slip-on. Hopefully that will pass...
Aaron
Burst
Wed 10/2/02, 11:16AM
mistermiata..... are you ok? you seem to be repeating the same post. Is that you or a glich in the system? hehe.
cjdirtbiker
Wed 10/2/02, 11:22AM
Give your real opinion.....
YOSH!
Do you know something we don't?
Burst
Wed 10/2/02, 11:25AM
yes I do..... :D
There will be a yosh mounted on my bike before too long. hopefully before my ride to Palomar on Sunday. They sound soooooo very sweet, I just got a lil carried away there. sorry. ;)
mistermiata13
Wed 10/2/02, 11:54AM
Woops, that must be a glitch. At any rate, I do enjoy the exhaust!
Aaron
GRich4u
Wed 10/2/02, 1:23PM
Hey gang, I was at the gathering and all the exhaust sounded good. I just got my scorpion pipe Tues, and like anyone else would have done I put it on the same nite. It sounds "juicy" as I put it. It was a slip-on and I cut the original pipe with my dremel. Only took about 1 hr total to do it. What was cool also is the pipe came with an extra piece in case I decided to put the original stock pipe back on.
Here is the website I bought it from. I called them direct, and it came here in exactly a week. Good price too. If anyone needs help with it I got a garage and dremel to help.
http://www.discountmotorcycleexhaust.com/
Good Luck
Mapuda
Thu 10/3/02, 4:13PM
If I had unlimited funds I would love the dual renegade underseat setup YOW what a sound.
I opted for a can from Remus. I got it mail order from Maxmoto up in San Francisco. www.maxmoto.com. The guy I spoke to is named Helli. Very nice guy who spent some quality time on the phone with me to make sure I installed it correctly.
I love the sound and performance of the bike. I am going to 152.5 main jets, 3 turns on the air/fuel screw and the snorklectomy this weekend.
I don't have a picture of the can on my bike because by digital camera is a piece, but here is a photo that Helli sent me that clinched the deal for me.
Mapuda
Thu 10/3/02, 4:16PM
Maxmoto also sells Bitubo suspension bits. Talk about pure sex metal magic!!!! Check these bad boys out.
Kurt'sSV
Thu 10/3/02, 4:46PM
That's a nice looking pipe.
pcperks
Thu 10/3/02, 5:36PM
Originally posted by GRich4u
It was a slip-on and I cut the original pipe with my dremel.
How many blades did that take?? I'm not sure on how tough the metal is that you have to get through. I'm looking at getting that same exhaust, so I'm trying to figure out if I want to do it myself or get it done. But if you got the tools and the time, I'd definitely appreciate the assist of someone who has already done it.................... and jet-kits,..........and tires,.........and sprockets,..........and undertails,......:D I've been doing a little looking online and it seems that these things aren't as expensive as I had originally thought, so they're on my shopping list now.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I'm really wanting to put a pipe on my bike too, maybe we should get a group O people and have a big pipe, jet and whatever party.
chukiechz
Tue 10/8/02, 4:53PM
how much was that remus exhaust? Its very nice looking. Anyone know where to get sound clips of that one? I need to make my way to a get together so I can hear different exhausts
Originally posted by chukiechz
how much was that remus exhaust? Its very nice looking. Anyone know where to get sound clips of that one? I need to make my way to a get together so I can hear different exhausts
There's no Remus in there yet, but if you want to hear a bunch of other exhausts, check out the video clips here (http://www.socalsvriders.com/download.php?op=viewdownload&cid=4) in the Downloads section.
If ya haven't already checked it out...
Justlar
Wed 10/9/02, 8:37AM
I found a sound bite for a Remus slip-on over at the SV650 UK site.
http://www.sv650.org/sv650_media.htm
Cheers.
Mapuda
Wed 10/9/02, 3:04PM
Prices for Remus exhaust are on the Maxmoto.com website. I paid $500.00 for the carbon fiber can and the high connector pipe.
Installation was easy and they gave me a connector to reinstall the stock pipe if I needed to put it back on.
I will borrow a friends digital camera and talk to paul about uploading the clip to the site so you can hear it.
robd
Thu 11/14/02, 11:12PM
Just bougth my 02 SV two months ago. I'm perfer louder exhaust pipes and currently looking for one. I heard the Renegade exhausts are louder than the stock exhaust and provides more power. Does anyone have any suggestions?
robd
Guzzigirl2000
Thu 11/14/02, 11:24PM
I am partial to my Micron.
Paul took video/audio of several aftermarket exhausts. Click on Downloads (up top) and you'll see and hear what I mean.
Of course you could go on the 11/16 SD ride and check them out in person too.
robd
Thu 11/14/02, 11:29PM
actually, i had planned on doing the SD ride. it'll be my first group ride.
Burst
Fri 11/15/02, 8:06AM
one word......
YOSH!
I've got the Yosh RS-3 Full race carbon pipe. Sounds sweet. Not *too* loud but a whole bunch louder than stock. It has got a very nice ducati-esque sound to it.
Gmoney
Fri 11/15/02, 8:23AM
Yosh NO WAY!
M4!
M4 i think its one of the loudest pipes on the market, for the sv. Also it gives you the most power gains. Just check out what the racers are useing. Most of the racing bike i have seen have the M4 full system.
stough
Fri 11/15/02, 8:43AM
Everyone that I've talked to claims that D&D full systems are simply the LOUDEST!!! :D
They also have the advantage of being one of the cheapest. I'm looking for the quietest aftermarket exhaust which increases preformance, so it's not my thing...
Later,
Tim.
Aufaber
Fri 11/15/02, 9:06AM
Originally posted by stough
Everyone that I've talked to claims that D&D full systems are simply the LOUDEST!!! :D
They also have the advantage of being one of the cheapest. I'm looking for the quietest aftermarket exhaust which increases preformance, so it's not my thing...
Later,
Tim.
They're loud.. Crappy and loud. Ever hear a pipe that someone hasn't changed the packing in in 5-10 years? that is what a D&D pipe starts out sounding like..
-AaroN G>
yes, I've heard others say D&D are one of the loudest but are in poor quality. On the other hand, Micron has good quality. I've read mixed reviews of Yosh. I think i'll go with either a Renegade, Scorpion or Micron.
Punkbrad
Fri 11/15/02, 10:17AM
i liked the scorpion a lot. girl star has one on her bike, and it sounds badass.. looks good and is one of the cheaper ones too.. thats the one i want when ti comes time (probably never though)
Pb.
idukes
Fri 11/15/02, 11:37AM
What was that you say?!?!............ You want a Chowder Lacrosse Pipe?!?!?
........ Say again!?!?............
I can't hear you over my EXTREMELY LOUD RENEGADE PIPE!!!!!
I'm just being stupid.
Ian
bwarbiany
Fri 11/15/02, 11:55AM
Originally posted by robd
Just bougth my 02 SV two months ago. I'm perfer louder exhaust pipes and currently looking for one. I heard the Renegade exhausts are louder than the stock exhaust and provides more power. Does anyone have any suggestions?
robd
Renegade's are by far not the loudest that you can get, but they sound beautiful... Especially if you go with duals... Or dual underseats :D :D :D
I highly recommend them for their customer service as well, they really take care of people. Only problem is that you need to send your pipe in for surgery (unless you get the underseats), which means your without a bike, or you need to borrow an exhaust from someone on the list in the meantime...
Brad
Chim Chim
Fri 11/15/02, 12:01PM
I've got an M4 Titanium on my SV. It sounds great, the workmanship is really nice and with a little rejetting using suzuki jets and washers, it pulls cleanly from idle.
My only two gripes are that you lose your passenger pegs (with the high pipe) and the hardware they ship with isn't stainless. What the hecks the point of a stainless sytems with rusty fasteners?
The Micron is also a great pipe. It sounds about as loud as the M4 when broken in, and the high pipe tucks in neatly behind the passenger pegs.
My .02
Mark
Punkbrad
Fri 11/15/02, 12:48PM
Chim Chim, is that a reference to Fishbone?
If so, then mad props.
calversv
Fri 11/15/02, 1:10PM
Originally posted by Gmoney
Yosh NO WAY!
M4!
M4 i think its one of the loudest pipes on the market, for the sv.
maybe not the loudest but certainly one of the best - just look at the R&D that goes into Yosh's exhausts (http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/randd.asp) as compared to M4's.
Yosh's R&D is probably why they're not the cheapest either.
bwarbiany
Fri 11/15/02, 2:15PM
I say just use a hacksaw and cut it off at the collector...
That's what I call a free-flowing exhaust :)
Brad
Rocko
Fri 11/15/02, 3:23PM
Yo,
when you guys say "scorpion" do you mean akrapovic (the pipe with the scorpion on it)?
I think a lot of factory teams use akrapovic, which i guess means they're pretty good (better race results = more kawazuki sales) but they're pretty damn expensive.
I dunno, man, I would just check them out at the ride and see which one sounds the best to you.
R
RACERX
Fri 11/15/02, 5:52PM
one word, two syllables " holeshot " best looking and quality plus not really expensive.
ZombieDude
Fri 11/15/02, 7:00PM
Originally posted by RACERX
one word, two syllables " holeshot " best looking and quality plus not really expensive.
Let me second young Racerx on his call for Holeshot. Smooth looks, nice quality and loud when you want it to be. Slowly rolling on the gass will sneak you away in the morning w/out setting off alarms. Nice deep "rolling thunder" sound at idle, and a "get the kids in the house, lock up your daughter, knew I should have tapped the windows" belch when you let the gass rip.
Natedawgg
Fri 11/15/02, 11:49PM
I gotta put in my .02 here.
I gotta full stainless Yosh RS-3. It rocks. The sound is nice and full. Wonderful on deceleration - kind of a deep sputtery & poppitty sound. And, this is my favorite part, when I cruise around neighborhoods nice & easy like (no full-throttle here, I don't wanna piss anybody off or run over a child), car alarms always churp at me and occasionally full-on let loose.
:D
Fun.
And when I gas it in a tunnel or parking structure, I feel like da-man!
:D
Oh-yea.
rb643
Sat 11/16/02, 7:29PM
Hey Rob,
Now that you heard several of the aftermarket exhausts today, which one do you like best?
neattoes3000
Sat 11/16/02, 9:05PM
Forget everything all the others said...
Get a Leo Vince...Sure it is a little more expensive, but really nice quality and it is very loud. Don't let anyone fool you...If it looks like duc...it will sound like a duc. Thats right...No SV I have heard sounds like an Italian V-twin. The Leo pipes are great and loud...I got like a 10% increase in horse power, not flat spot in the torque curev, and I have the dyno charts to prove it. just be sure to get a full exhaust, so you can save some weight. The renegades are all slip ons and you have to cut your stock one. If you ever want to sell it, you will get more money if you keep all the stock bits...
Craig
It was a great turnout for the SanDiego 16th ride. I really enjoyed seeing all the other bikes out there and thier mods. It gave me ideas on what to with my naked one. Also, Thanks everyone for letting me hear their exhausts. I've still got some months before I actually go out and buy one. After hearing the exhuasts, the decision is now even more difficult. I guess it's a matter of personnal choice now. But most likely it'll be a slip-on.
Again thanks everyone for your inputs.
orangetrak
Sun 11/17/02, 7:26PM
Originally posted by neattoes3000
Forget everything all the others said...
The renegades are all slip ons and you have to cut your stock one. If you ever want to sell it, you will get more money if you keep all the stock bits...
Craig
Just for the record, Renegades come with an adaptor to put on your stock can anytime you want. Renegades:
1) Sound great,
2) Keep passenger pegs on high-mount, ( And low-mount )
3) Don't have to re-jet unless you want to,
4) Great customer service,
5) No 5-foot Japanese Characters/letters denoting who made the can,
6) Fair price,
7) Duals, single, high-mount, low-mount, round, oval..lots of choices
8) Good quality
9) Slip-on or full system available
10) Sounds great! :D
11) I haven't heard anything negative about ANY of the aftermarket pipes, so buy, have fun and ride safe...
Cheers, Doug
voodoo1694
Mon 11/18/02, 12:04AM
i just ordered a titanium high mount oval rene (eventually going to be duals). It should get here by Friday.
Woohoo I'm excited:D
Phil-
Where did you get you Yosh can from and can you tell me what you paid as well. I am looking at getting an exhaust soon. Do you mind me asking why you went with a Yosh slip on insead of a full system?
Thanks
Tim:flag:
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 2:06PM
I posted this on the national site, thought Id post to get a local opinion.
OK, I wanna get a new exhaust. I have a quote from cycle center of denton for $560 for a micron carbon high mount.
I could also get a scorpion slip on for $340 delivered from pipe city.
Is a full system worth the extra $200 dollars? I really like the high mount, and I also like the fact that scorpions don't need to be repacked and a lifetime warranty. So can I get your opinions?
thanks
I've heard that the extra money you spend on a full system vs. a slip-on is not worth the gain in HP you'll realize. Instead, you could use the $200 you save, and invest in a jet kit. For less than $100, you'll have a product that improves power/torque more than headers will. I think others will agree with me, but then again, what the hell do I know??
Troy:D
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 2:21PM
I got the blinkers today BTW, thanks!!
Burst
Tue 12/17/02, 2:24PM
Troy is correct. If you can find a highmount slipon that you like, that would probably be the way to go. The full systems typically only give a 1-2 hp advantage over a slipon.
You do save quite a bit of weight though. On the stock system, from the collector back, it is all double wall stainless with a thin layer of packing in between. Not to mention that the head pipes on the stock system use a heavier guage of stainless.
Is it worth the money? That depends..... do you have the money to spare?
Kurt'sSV
Tue 12/17/02, 2:28PM
I'm not in any rush to get an aftermarket pipe because their hp gains are minimal. Better forks will make you go way faster. So if you want a pipe for the cool sound they make, just get the can. Unfortunately Micron will not sell you a can only because they "do not like to ask their costumer's to hack their bikes", so I would go for the Scorpion.
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 2:31PM
Originally posted by Burst
Troy is correct. If you can find a highmount slipon that you like, that would probably be the way to go. The full systems typically only give a 1-2 hp advantage over a slipon.
You do save quite a bit of weight though. On the stock system, from the collector back, it is all double wall stainless with a thin layer of packing in between. Not to mention that the head pipes on the stock system use a heavier guage of stainless.
Is it worth the money? That depends..... do you have the money to spare?
weight isnt an issue (I weight like 130 lbs). Money is. I could use the money to get an undertail if they're ever ready!! :) So it seems like its about $100 a pony eh? Maybe I'll just find a slip. I like the sound of the carbon yosh, but its almost the same price as the full Micron.
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 2:32PM
oh and Im mainly motivated by the sound , not the speed increase :D
Chowder
Tue 12/17/02, 2:34PM
going back to the previous post, i suppose it doesn't matter which manufacturer? i keep hearing scorpion and yoshi thrown out there the most when it comes to slip ons. i think exhaust is the first thing i'm going to change also. (if i don't get the frame sliders first)
which do y'all think is the best valued? or best choice? or best sounding? scorpion or yoshi?
Kurt'sSV
Tue 12/17/02, 2:36PM
Well Renegades have a great sound and the M4 is just loud to name two others.
Dude, like the others have said, you don't gain much hp, plus, being 130lbs already gives you a power/weight ratio advantage.
So, save a couple of bills on the headers and spend it on suspension work (probably could re-valve the forks for a lot less than $200-that'll make ya faster in the turns), or buy a cool motorcyclist air bag.
Troy
You can get that Scorpion for 264 at discountmotorcycleexhaust.com
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 4:53PM
OK slip on it is. Now to see what I can find in a high mount. Anyone have quick suggestions so I dont have to dig and research??:D
Setter32
Tue 12/17/02, 5:07PM
Now to see what I can find in a high mount. Anyone have quick suggestions so I dont have to dig and research??
I've just been shoppin for a high mount myself.......
...ended up buying a Leo Vince high mount slip on.......for ~$330......
...incidently.......with the Leo.........you don't have to mess with your passenger pegs.....or rear blinkers.....
:D
RACERX
Tue 12/17/02, 5:37PM
holeshot or nikko have the nicest high mounts on the market. I will be doing R&D for rumbleimport.com on the nikko exhausts. So i will post the gains
Later
Cory
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 7:04PM
setter: is that a stainless can? Do they offer it in CF? How accurate is the sound compared to the clip on the site? Also, where did you get it.
racerx: the nikko ones I see on ebay have gotten my attention, just waiting for someone to be the guinea pig! Hurry and test it out!!!
don't they make r/c cars??????:tired:
RACERX
Tue 12/17/02, 8:33PM
nikko exhaust and nikko r/c are two seperate companies. One is french and one is japanese.
Chuck, Just waiting for shipment then I will post pics,dyno results, and hopefully sound (paul can you help a brother out).
You can buy them on ebay or directly from them. They are awesome guys over there. Also I will see if I can get a couple of cans to sell very cheap to the socal group.
Later
Cory
so the nikko can is for your r/c bike?:geek:
chukiechz
Tue 12/17/02, 10:10PM
racer: Looking foward to your review. Im getting close to buying a setup, but Im leaving for chicago on thurday for 10 days to visit my mom and visit my hometown. Hopefully you'll have it installed over the holidays!!!
Im leaning towards the leo vinci ultra high slip on in carbon.
Punkbrad
Tue 12/17/02, 10:14PM
Originally posted by chukiechz
I could use the money to get an undertail if they're ever ready!! :) .
You could give me 99 bux and I'll do a fender elimination. they look identical... ;) that way you save even more money!
Pb.
Setter32
Wed 12/18/02, 11:23AM
Chuckie baby...
is that a stainless can? Do they offer it in CF? How accurate is the sound compared to the clip on the site? Also, where did you get it.
Yes I bought the stainless.........the cheapest one.........tee hee...........:o
....but they do have them in carbon fiber.........tres sheek.....
...dun't know how they sound...etc...etc.............because I've just bought them........and they haven't been delivered yet.....
Where I got it = http://www.indysuperbikes.com/Isb1/Indysuperbikes%20Frame.htm
It's kinda hard reachin them.....or him (seems like there's only one person working there)......but keep on tryin...........you can also leave a message.....
:D
chukiechz
Wed 12/18/02, 11:28AM
hey setter thanks. I decided to get the carbon fiber one from pipecity.com $400 shipped!!. Should get here the day I get back from vacation. Now I got 10 days to explain this to my wife.
Setter32
Wed 12/18/02, 11:59AM
...I would just lay it on Santa..........
...You have no control over what he brings you......... :grin:
:D
Troy
Wed 12/18/02, 12:27PM
Originally posted by chukiechz
Now I got 10 days to explain this to my wife.
You ARE the man of the house, right??? You don't have to explain sh*t!!!:mad:
You tell the little woman that what you do with your money is your business, and what she does with her money is also your business.....
Then, lemme know if that approach works, ok?
Thanks, Troy:|
Burst
Wed 12/18/02, 12:34PM
I very rarely question the wife when it comes to money.... If the finances were left up to me we'd have one badass stable of bikes and no place to keep them. :D Who needs a home anyway.... right?
chukiechz
Wed 12/18/02, 12:46PM
Originally posted by tc5479
You ARE the man of the house, right??? You don't have to explain sh*t!!!:mad:
You tell the little woman that what you do with your money is your business, and what she does with her money is also your business.....
Then, lemme know if that approach works, ok?
Thanks, Troy:|
umm, can I stay at your place then when she kicks me out?
Actually, I found a full yosh carbon high mount system on the svrider classifieds for $250. Im going to try and cancel the pipecity order. If I cant, then I guess I'll try and sell it on my own.
Viniteio-181
Wed 12/18/02, 1:59PM
Okay, here's my suggestion (courtesy of Mike aka BUYMENOW00)
Brands:
Yoshimura - best value...easily configures with SVs. I live @ 2500ft above sea level, which compensated for the resulting leanness, but rejetting still wasn't necessary...but I wanted it, and just finished it this morning. :D If that's not your bag, Scorpion, Muzzy, and Micron are good bets.
Here are some of the places I perused in my search:
www.parts411.com
www.starcycle.com
www.discountmotorcycleexhaust.com
www.motoperformance.com
Finishes:
Titanium (what I have)...scratches can be wiped away (literally - they give you a scrub pad), matches ANYTHING, and has most of the strength and corrosion resistance of stainless, yet a lot of the light weight of carbon. **Carbon is crummy...scratches easily and can't be fixed, doesn't match most paint schemes, is too expensive in most cases, and isn't much of a weight savings over Titanium**
System:
Slip-On. If you're not racing the bike, and will USE the extra airflow, weight savings, and minimal HP increase, keep the money and buy 10 other things. It really is about $150 for each xtra pony.
I took Mike's suggestion and bought the Yosh Tri-Oval standard mount...you will crash the bike (or be on your knee pucks) b4 that pipe will touch the ground, so the high mount is kindofa waste in that case. Any other pipe, though...yeah, I'd get it. Good luck whatever you pick. ;)
Troy-
What made you go with the Yosh pipe and not the Scorpion or Renegade? I was just curious. The Scorpion pipe sound makes my mouth water, but is the quality the same as the yosh? Can you tell me what your carb and jet settings are at? Thanks.
Tim:confused:
Originally posted by SVTIM
Troy-
What made you go with the Yosh pipe and not the Scorpion or Renegade? I was just curious. The Scorpion pipe sound makes my mouth water, but is the quality the same as the yosh? Can you tell me what your carb and jet settings are at? Thanks.
Tim:confused:
Tim,
I dig the Yosh logo.
Seriously, the Rene was more than I wanted to spend, and I hadn't heard the Scorp before. I had heard the Yosh, and I liked it. 140 mains, 17.5 pilots, 2.5 turns out.
Troy
May I ask where you bought your carb stuff from and how much you paid. I am doing my 600 mile service and I think I am ready to tear into my carbs now. I like the look of the yosh, but I like the sound of the scorpion. Decisions, decisions.:D
Originally posted by SVTIM
May I ask where you bought your carb stuff from and how much you paid. I am doing my 600 mile service and I think I am ready to tear into my carbs now. I like the look of the yosh, but I like the sound of the scorpion. Decisions, decisions.:D
It was a xmas gift, but I've seen them online for around $70. Mine is a Factory Jet Kit 1.0. It was pretty easy, with the right tools and guidance. Only tricky part for me was removing the fuel screw plug. Ended up drilling the plug till there was nothing left. All that was left fell right out.
ok here's the thing im looking into getting a slip-on exhaust. i've narrowed it down to the 2 bros C2 or the yosh tbr. now the thing is i've heard the sound clips and was wondering which one would be a deeper sound? im not looking for anything super loud or annoying. thanks for the help. also i've read that with the 2 bros hi mount i will loss the passenger peg. any way to avoid this?
tom
Setter32
Wed 1/29/03, 5:26PM
also i've read that with the 2 bros hi mount i will loss the passenger peg. any way to avoid this?
...yeah....
....get a LeoVince highmount......
:D
airman9
Wed 1/29/03, 5:27PM
Tom, I thought with both of those you lose the pegs.... Those were the first two I was looking at getting.... As for sound I have heard them both in person and I think the two brothers is the best sound... I believe Aussie used to have it and everytime he started his bike I was like WOW!!!! But, that is only my opinion in a sea of many...
ohh yes the mysterious leovince. that would be a great choice but a certain friend of mine got the leo high mount.*cough airman* so thats out of the question. that bastard. :D
tom
Originally posted by Setter32
...yeah....
....get a LeoVince highmount......
:D
Or Renegade.........
dillweed
Wed 1/29/03, 7:11PM
a guy here at work has the yosh, I think it's called rs-3 or something like that?? anyway it's loud as hell......real low
I would like to see us post a thread with as many prices and pictures as we can........prices first, and pictures as they come in.
kcsport
Thu 1/30/03, 6:40AM
Yoshi Tri-oval= $309
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL104/831711/1489480/19292764.jpg
kcsport: did you get the zyclone or the race? how does it sound?
kcsport
Thu 1/30/03, 4:40PM
I got the race. I really think it sounds great. The guy I ride with has a scorpion and he likes the yoshi also. The scorp. is a tiny bit louder but the yoshi has a fuller tone.
kcsport: thanks for the reply. also what is your jetting like? is the gas mileage good? i know with more performance you lose economy just trying to keep it at a minimum.
tom
kcsport
Thu 1/30/03, 5:06PM
140 mains, 17.5 pilots, and 2 shims, stock filter, snorkel in place. ( I'll try it without snorkel when I get another filter to exp. with.) I really havent noticed a drop in milage. The other daysome friends and i went on a ride, at 140 miles I only used half a tank. Not any hard riding, HD fat boy and Suz. 800 Volusia. I did get on it some (just to tease them alittle :D )
dillweed
Thu 1/30/03, 5:14PM
nice lowers......do those come pre-painted?
OK Kcsport helped me out with the Yoshi. is there someone out there with the TBR C2 standard slip-on that could help me on that?
Kcsport: thanks for all your help it was great. where did you get your pipe at bye the way?
kcsport
Thu 1/30/03, 5:41PM
www.starcycle.com Great service and they were very quick with the shipping! Here are some shots of the can.
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL104/831711/1489480/19344585.jpg
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL104/831711/1489480/19344571.jpg
Nanduccio
Thu 1/30/03, 5:57PM
I just got a Scorpion stainless slip-on for my '02 SVS. I think it sounds absolutely wonderful...deep, nasty growl.
I also paid just $250 to my door including shipping from www.pipecity.com. They were (are?) having a huge sale on Scorpion pipes.
Scorpion's are VERY WELL-MADE. They are hand-made in the UK, and finished with rivets as you NEVER have to re-pack them ever. Instead of fiberglass-type insulation, they use a woven ceramic sleeve which will last forever, or useful life of the bike anyway.
The fit and finish on my pipe are impeccable...and the price was awesome.
I now own a completely different motorcycle. A totally amazing sensory experience.
Similar to ice-cream...after sex...with Jennifer Garner...on the set of Alias...after watching Al Davis lose the Big One.
dillweed
Thu 1/30/03, 7:47PM
Originally posted by Setter32
...yeah....
....get a LeoVince highmount......
Originally posted by linp
Or Renegade.........
Or Micron......
All 3 of those retain the pegs I believe......
RageRage
Thu 1/30/03, 11:29PM
I did what Nanduccio did after I saw and heard his pipe. Bought the Scorpion from the same place too. Re-jetted to 140 mains. Couldn't be happier.
kcsport
Fri 1/31/03, 5:03AM
Dillweed- I had to paint the lowers, it came from Hammerit.
dnakase
Fri 1/31/03, 8:28AM
Originally posted by peaty
..... also i've read that with the 2 bros hi mount i will loss the passenger peg. any way to avoid this?
tom
Yah, buy a Renagade hi mount...
Seriously, I think you could just find a spacer and longer bolt, that's all Renegade really provides to retain the passenger pegs.
chukiechz
Fri 1/31/03, 10:14AM
if you get a leo vince, better pray you dont have any problems with it. Im still waiting for my replacement, and its been over a month already
rb643
Fri 1/31/03, 10:37AM
What kind of problems did you have?
chukiechz
Fri 1/31/03, 10:39AM
my experience (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1745)
check out my update at the end too
RageRage
Fri 1/31/03, 6:37PM
$260 to your door.
Nanduccio
Fri 1/31/03, 6:48PM
Right on Rage!
I'm proud of you!
Who did your rejetting for you???
and what in the holy heck does rejetting do?
(for those like myself who put the key in, turn it, and then the big blue thing goes vroom vroom)
RageRage
Fri 1/31/03, 7:52PM
Nanduccio -- All the reading I've done suggests the SV650 is kind'a lean from the factory with 138 jets. I was told I didn't need to re-jet with the Scorpion, but 140s would improve the mid-range throttle response, i.e. make it smoother. I was told right. The 140s (a lot of people run even bigger) gives me exactly what I want for sensitive throttle changes in the corners. No more ker-chunch, ker-chunck, ker-chunch, though a corner. Now I have the "fineness" to smoothly change small amounts of rpm. I'm overjoyed. Cycle Products West on Pico in West LA did my rejetting. I'm sure some guys in the club could do it for you for free, but if you want a shop fairly close to you, Cycle Products West has done nothing but excellent work for me in the past at a very fair price.
Gmoney
Fri 1/31/03, 9:48PM
you should watch ebay. i have seen some slip ons in the last month or two go for pretty cheep. why buy a new one and pay full price when you can get a used one for about half.
Xplodee
Fri 1/31/03, 10:07PM
RageRage,
I've exchanged emails with you in the past about your belly pan but I gotta say it again. I really think that's a beautiful piece and I can't believe it's OEM! You've sent me a couple of really close up pieces of the pan itself but I was hoping you might have some higher resolution shots of your bike from both sides so that I can check out how it looks as a whole, with the belly pan installed. I'm definitely considering purchasing it.
RageRage
Fri 1/31/03, 10:26PM
Xplodee -- I sent you 2 more pics but they came back undeliverable. Either too big for Hot Mail or Hot Mail was screwed up at the time. In either case, they didn't reveal much more than what you already see. Buy it from Suzuki. Have a body shop fuse the two pieces together and repaint. Installation takes no time. I did it myself, and I'm stupid. Now there is a hole on the side for seeing your oil level. I thought the hole was too small so I bored it out and capped it with a generic rubber cap.
Xplodee
Fri 1/31/03, 10:30PM
hey ragerage,
Yeah, that doesn't suprise me about hotmail, my box gets overfilled sometime. I did get the picture above and I really appreciate it!! I want to get this pan but I think I might have to wait until I can find a good deal on it. From AZ motorsports its 250 bucks plus a 15% discount from the svrider board makes it about 220 bucks. Then i'm going to have to either smooth it out myself and re-paint it or get a body shop to do it. How much money did they charge you for smoothing it out and painting? Lastly, sorry for the 20 questions but you are the only person I know with the oem belly pan so I have no choice. ;)
RageRage
Sat 2/1/03, 10:03AM
A friend who owns a motorcycle body and paint shop did it for free. He owed me a favor. It's not really a biggie. If you had to pay, I can't imagine more than 30-40 bucks. Even my Ford dealer where I take my car when I bung it up said they'd do for $20 just to tip the painter.
pfletch
Wed 2/5/03, 9:07AM
If I buy the scorpion exhaust and don't do the re-jet immediately or never what is the likely outcome, ie performance. Also where would I find the directions/instructions to do the re-jet. I'm not mechanically inclined but my friend is, and he loves to mess around with bikes so he will help me.
Check out this link for rejetting your bike.
http://www.geocities.com/catpoopman/Johns_bike.html
RageRage
Wed 2/5/03, 11:49AM
My guess is you won't notice any difference in performance. You'll mostly just be louder. If you gain say 1 hp from possibly running slightly leaner, the risk ain't worth it because of running hotter. If you re-jet, you'll gain that 1 or maybe even 2 hp and run cooler and have better "fine" throttle resonse in the corners. If you get the Dynajet kit, all the instructions are included. The guy that re-jetted my bike put in 140s and set the needle on the middle (I think 3rd) notch. He also took out the smog. The bike runs so much better, I can't believe it.
SoloToto
Wed 2/5/03, 4:35PM
If your still looking for a good pipe, The Jardine RT-One Race is a very good choice. Quiet at idle with a noticable "rumpa-rumpa", and an awesome low growl under mild acceleration. Crack the throttle and the system sounds b*tchin! It isn't obnoxious when riding. However, don't trust the sound bytes online, look for SV's with the system and hear it in person.
Remus exhausts are especially nice, I think. Great toned down sound and craftsmenship that lasts. My cousin has one on his R6 and the thing is just beautiful.
pfletch
Thu 2/13/03, 8:58AM
how long does Pipe City take to get the pipe to you, I ordered on 2/7/03. and I'm anxiously waiting on the UPS guy?
RageRage
Thu 2/13/03, 11:20AM
I got mine in two days. I'd call and see what's up.
pfletch
Thu 2/13/03, 2:01PM
Thanks, I called Pipecity and they said I should have received it by now so they are tracking it. it's a good job it's raining or I would be upset. This rain sucks, I much prefer the 80/90's of last week.
pfletch
Fri 2/14/03, 1:07PM
Pipe arrived today, took about 45 mins to install, used a sawzall to cut off the original, new one sounds great. Only problem is the large clamp/hanger doesn't seem to fit snug around the can, is this normal?
burdman
Wed 3/12/03, 7:59AM
I need a little help picking a new exhaust.
I've done a fair bit of looking around, and I really like the look of the Leo Vince high mount system. I plan on going with a full system, because my header pipes are looking a little rough and I'll admit it, this mod is partly for the looks. Also, I need to keep my passenger pegs.
The one thing I'm concerned about with the Leo Vince is the sound. I've heard it sounds great, but I'm not sure I want a super loud pipe. I've seen the video download on the site, and it sounds great, but I've heard people say that isn't a good way to tell. I also might be mis-informed as to what a loud pipe is.
I've also heard good things about the Hindle (price), and the Arrow system.
I'd appreciate any advice.
Nick
Justlar
Wed 3/12/03, 8:21AM
Hard decision, still working on it for myself.
Arrow is a nice pipe, sounds great but you lose the rear peg. Hindle I believe you keep the peg but I have not heard it. Leo is the preferred pipe for a local San Diego shop that tunes a few SV racers. This shop says that the Leo will give you the best performance.
I think Yosh. is a good option as well as Micron and lately I am researching the Remus line of pipes. Good luck!
Cheers.
Mapuda
Wed 3/12/03, 8:58AM
I have the Remus high mount carbon fiber slip on and I love it.
Great product quality finish and construction, outstanding power and sound.
If you cruise at 4-5 k the sound is not too loud. Crank it up to 6k and above and it roars.
Lots of nice touches, like a standoff to keep the rear brake line off of the header pipe.
Expensive but worth it. Got mine at www.maxmoto.com
pcperks
Wed 3/12/03, 9:16AM
I'm pretty partial to Yosh. I'm going to be getting the full titanium high mount to replace the slip on I damaged in my wreck. It is a pretty loud pipe, but sounds really nice. I can't tell you what the exact performance change is, but I know that it did make a big improvement.
NorCal_SV650S
Wed 3/12/03, 9:17AM
I have the standard Scorpion Stainless...beautiful sound, but quite loud...it is the Race Can. But I think it is perfect...should have gotten the carbon though.
The Remus is beautiful and looks/sounds great in person...
The Leo Vince high mount looks great in person, but don't know about the sound...but honestly every SV exhaust I have heard is slightly different but all beautiful (except the V&H, it seems sort of rattle prone in the sound not the actual metal).
Avoid the Nikko's, heard they suck.
If you have bank, go for the Renegade system...if you have REAL bank...the dual Renegade high mount...REAL REAL BANK? The dual underseat Renegade system.
Kurt'sSV
Wed 3/12/03, 9:40AM
From what I've heard Leo Vance gives the best power gain, but I've also heard that about the M4. I, personally, don't like the Leo Vance sound, but that's just me, and the M4 is pretty loud. Both exhausts I think are ugly.
The Yoshi's aren't as loud, sound good, are more costly, but the prettiest. :batlash: (IMO)
kc1717
Wed 3/12/03, 10:29AM
i totally agree,...i had a renegade, and i think that for just a slip on scorpion is the Only way to go. if you havent checked them out, you should save some money and get one sweet exhaust.
Originally posted by NorCal_SV650S
I have the standard Scorpion Stainless...beautiful sound, but quite loud...it is the Race Can. But I think it is perfect...should have gotten the carbon though.
The Remus is beautiful and looks/sounds great in person...
The Leo Vince high mount looks great in person, but don't know about the sound...but honestly every SV exhaust I have heard is slightly different but all beautiful (except the V&H, it seems sort of rattle prone in the sound not the actual metal).
Avoid the Nikko's, heard they suck.
If you have bank, go for the Renegade system...if you have REAL bank...the dual Renegade high mount...REAL REAL BANK? The dual underseat Renegade system.
Setter32
Wed 3/12/03, 10:34AM
The one thing I'm concerned about with the Leo Vince is the sound.
....I have the Leo Vince high mount.........
....it's louder than stock..........but not obnoxiously loud...........for example.......a Yosh is way louder than the Leo Vince.....
...the Leo Vince also has a nice low note to it also.....
...in my opinion......a very nice sounding pipe.....
...if you decide to put one on..........I would be curious to your feedback on any increase in vibrations..........cause I've noticed an increase after I installed the pipe.............or maybe I'm just being hyper-sensitive.....
....now I gotta figure out how to dampen it......
:D
Shizznid
Mon 3/31/03, 8:42PM
OK, here's what I got, and what I want. You tell me what you have and what you think:
I own a 2002 SVS - all stock. I like loud pipes, specifically the smooth rumble of a 1000cc twin. I'd like a High-Mount pipe. I don't want to spend a shitload of cash, either. Based on some recent exhaust research, here are a few pipes I have looked at:
1. Holeshot - A slip-on, which is odd, since it's almost $400 dollars. But it mounts very high, and it looks really swank.
2. Yoshimura - obvious Suzuki trademark, pretty damn expensive though. I need new leathers, and I can't afford them with this pipe.
3. Vance and Hines - My least favorite, although I've owned their products on my past 4 bikes, and liked them. I"m just not into the sound/look as much. But the price is right.
Anyway, I would really appreciate some advice. Thanks!!!
-Zack
Los Angeles
ZackMathers@hotmail.com
jwalstad
Mon 3/31/03, 8:56PM
Yoshimura really isn't that expensive. Try this place: Moto-Xtreme (http://www.mps-shop.com/motoxtreme/product.asp?pf%5Fid=152&dept%5Fid=1308&error=&makemodel=62%5F216&model%5Fyear=2002&attr%5Fvalue1=Race&attr%5Fvalue2=Tri%2DOval+%28TRS%29&attr%5Fvalue3=Stainless&attr%5Fvalue4=&attr%5Fvalue5=&status=OK&mscssid=DUMMY8TMQ9G69PCRJGDLM0B8EN6NC997) They have had the best yoshimura prices I have seen.
Golden_Eternity
Mon 3/31/03, 9:39PM
Advice I've heard from a lot of people is buy the leathers then worry about the pipe.
dnakase
Mon 3/31/03, 9:47PM
Yah, buy the leathers, then keep an eye out for a used pipe. Some people manage to lay it down on the left.
Read all the posts in this current thread (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1558) and this thread (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=603).
Knightshade
Tue 4/1/03, 7:21AM
Seriously. You should get all your needed safety gear and then do upgrades to your bike.
But to get back on thread, I haven't heard too many other exhausts, but I have the yosh rs3 on mine..and I LOVE the way that sucker sounds.
Punkbrad
Tue 4/1/03, 7:32AM
i now have full gear - Fieldsheer tech pants & Teknic leather jacket, boots, gloves... and NOW its time for that Scorpion Exhaust!
smolvar
Wed 4/2/03, 10:51AM
Just installed my Yosh Tri-Oval Ti slip-on.
(mouthfull)
Install took 30 mins with a hacksaw.
Sounds great, much better!
Time to rejet. When is the next carb party?
Dangerboy_026
Sat 4/5/03, 12:57AM
Akrapovic (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2709)!! Sounds great, performs , fits like a glove, But i guess you get what you pay for . Awesome :D
Originally posted by smolvar
Just installed my Yosh Tri-Oval Ti slip-on.
Sounds great, much better!
Time to rejet. When is the next carb party?
Next Maintenance Day is on 4/26. Info is in this thread (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2730). As usual, all the Ride Outs and Events (including Carb Party, Fork Party or Maintenance Days) announcements are in this forum (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=3).
Hi there
Im a french Rider and i have a little problem .
I had an accident 15 days ago and i m gonna change my exhaust. Ive seen lot of pics of exhaust and i dont know whant can i do .
I d like a good looking exhaust and with a really good sound .
I m listening all ur advices :)
If u cant put link or pics plz :)
See ya :)
SD rulezzzzzz
Originally posted by Winol
Hi there
Im a french Rider and i have a little problem .
I had an accident 15 days ago and i m gonna change my exhaust. Ive seen lot of pics of exhaust and i dont know whant can i do .
I d like a good looking exhaust and with a really good sound .
I m listening all ur advices :)
If u cant put link or pics plz :)
See ya :)
SD rulezzzzzz
The most common I've seen... and the best is probably the Yosh. There is also the M4 which is a bad ass pipe. Do a little research or ask Frank @ cyclemall.net... he is the man
No way, get a scorpion, much cheaper and sounds deeper!
Natedawgg
Wed 4/16/03, 10:07AM
I got a Yoshimura RS-3. It kicks ass. Sets off car alarms with it's nice, deep, burbly sound. I love it.
I've heard any number of aftermarket exhausts on an SV, and quite frankly, they all sound pretty good and deliver extra power. Especially over a stock setup.
Yeah, sure, you can argue that Akrapovic will give you .5 hp more than Yoshimura and 1.5 more than some other brand, but I ask you, Who gives a shit unless you're a professional racer? I'll never be able to tell the difference from the seat of my pants.
I say (after spending way more than I should've on a pipe) get the one you think looks dope.
burdman
Wed 4/16/03, 10:20AM
I talked to a dealer the other day, and he suggested the Hindle for the price. Now, that is what they carry, so it could be biased. He rides an Arrow and likes it.
The Leo Vince is one that I am looking at, I love the look of the high mount, and I want to keep my passenger peg. I really want to do the full system, because part of it is to get new pipes, mine are really tarnished and I feel more comfortable not having to cut into the stock ones (backup).
The most interesting thing I came across, and I'd like to hear what you all think, is that the dealer mentioned I wouldn't really have to rejet. He mentioned that tuning the carbs was standard, but installing a jet kit with the above mentioned systems was unnecessary. Comments?
Nick
Monte
Wed 4/16/03, 10:36AM
I'm really happy with my Two Bros exhaust so far. Looks great sitting on my garage floor!
Winol
Wed 4/16/03, 10:38AM
i think ill get one like that
http://www.socalsvriders.com/temp/nikkoblue.jpg
or a yosh . but what kind of Yosh ? i d like a full system looking like the nikko racing
any advices ?
My advice is to start from Page 1 of this thread (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1558) and read all 10 pages.
Originally posted by Winol
i think ill get one like that
http://www.socalsvriders.com/temp/nikkoblue.jpg
or a yosh . but what kind of Yosh ? i d like a full system looking like the nikko racing
any advices ?
that pik looks bad :ass:
I'd go with the double high pipes myself... the difference in weight and horsepower doesn't compare to how cool those look...
Natedawgg
Wed 4/16/03, 10:50AM
If you 'd like to take full advantage of the extra power you can get from your new pipe, definitely re-jet. It's easy, cheap, and will make a difference.
dnakase
Wed 4/16/03, 10:51AM
Originally posted by linp
My advice is to start from Page 1 of this thread (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1558) and read all 10 pages.
Then buy a Renegade dual underseat system ;)
i dont think that i can buy it from france
we dont have this trademark here .
Only Yosh, arrow,micron,nikkoracing,mig,ninja,ixil,leovinci etc etc
never head of renegade (http://www.renegade-exhausts.com) before coming on ur board guys
can u post a pic of them ?
Originally posted by Winol
i dont think that i can buy it from france
we dont have this trademark here .
Only Yosh, arrow,micron,nikkoracing,mig,ninja,ixil,leovinci etc etc
never head of renegade (http://www.renegade-exhausts.com) before coming on ur board guys
can u post a pic of them ?
Here are some pics dnakase posted a while back:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1972#post21061
You might be able to spot his system in some of the pics in his album, too:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album21&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
You should be able to get Renegade systems direct...check their site for more info.
$1,099 is really too expensive for me ....
will take a yosh in my humble opinion
any pics of SV with Yosh exhaust ?
Also check out this thread:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=603
And for a bunch of aftermarket exhaust videos (video and sound):
http://www.socalsvriders.com/download.php?op=viewdownload&cid=4
Learn how to do a Search (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/search.php?s=) too.
Lots of pics here:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album02&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Yosh pic here:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album62&id=DSC00064_Small&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
Did you read all the posts in this thread?
zunkus
Thu 4/17/03, 3:12AM
I also own a Renegade high mount carbon can. It sounds Fantastic. My brother's Scorpion Carbon Can on his SVS sounds chattery next to mine. Renegade has a deeper sound and the higher you rev the better it sounds. Scorpion just sounds noisier. Renegade wins hands down! The trottle respons seems better too. All I can say is that he's fitting his Scorpion can to his second bike (a Yamaha XJR400) and getting a Rennie for his SVS. Its that good.
weegaz22
Fri 4/18/03, 9:30AM
buy an ART can, good power high up in the rev range and cheap as hell! (alloy can about £130, dont know what this is in dollars) and sounds quiet nice + flames as well when u shut off the throtle at 9000- 10,000rpm
bigdome
Mon 5/26/03, 10:34PM
I have a SV650S 01 and ive been thinking about getting a yosh pipe i was wondering if anyone had anything to say about this can.
Or better yet sugest something better sor the SV.
THX
The Dome
bwarbiany
Mon 5/26/03, 10:44PM
Originally posted by bigdome
I have a SV650S 01 and ive been thinking about getting a yosh pipe i was wondering if anyone had anything to say about this can.
Or better yet sugest something better sor the SV.
THX
The Dome
Hmm, this'll get merged pretty quick, huh?
Edit: Never mind, I took care of it myself... I must be bored :D
bwarbiany
Tue 5/27/03, 7:13AM
Originally posted by EviL4FuN
Anyone have further experience with "ART" ?
The Renegades look nice and are highly recommended, however i have my doubts about sending my pipe across the pond, call me anxious ;)
Don't worry a minute over the Renegade... Renegade is one of the few motorcycle-related companies that is truly exceptional when it comes to customer service... When WSB rolls around at Laguna, I know several people whe have just brought their bike to get the exhaust re-packed, at the races, for free...
Renegade takes care of their customers. The motorcycle industry, compared to many others I've seen, tends to be very shady, but Renegade is better than almost any other that I've ever seen...
Jlm8667
Wed 5/28/03, 5:10PM
I never knew making a decession on what pipe would be sooooo much fun. I still cant decide and I have looked at many. WOW!
Jlm8667
Thu 5/29/03, 4:59PM
After looking for months now I think I am going to go with the Nikko High Rise, thanks in part to this exhaust video (http://www.socalsvriders.com/download.php?op=getit&lid=35).
Great sound. My question, does the high rise effect the passenger? bad enough I have to tell the wife it cost 350.00 can't tell her she can't ride on it in the same breath, I'll be sleeping on it in the garage... lol
Anyone have aNikko? know where I might find it cheaper?
Thanks
sirrom
Fri 5/30/03, 8:29PM
damn the choices are endless!
So I'll go with the Yosh.......
or the Scorpion.......
or maybe the Remus.......
but then there's the 2 bros.......#-o
Shizznid
Fri 5/30/03, 9:48PM
Originally posted by Jlm8667
After looking for months now I think I am going to go with the Nikko High Rise, thanks in part to this exhaust video (http://www.socalsvriders.com/download.php?op=getit&lid=35).
Great sound. My question, does the high rise effect the passenger? bad enough I have to tell the wife it cost 350.00 can't tell her she can't ride on it in the same breath, I'll be sleeping on it in the garage... lol
Anyone have aNikko? know where I might find it cheaper?
That's my pipe in the video. I actually put the passenger footpegs back on last night, so I could bring a friend of mine along for the weekend. The right side needs 2 small extensions, and a few washers. (I believe they are included, but I bought my pipe used, so I'm not sure. The guy I bought it from gave them to me with the pipe.) Anyway, the pegs work fine. It looks a little lame, in my opinion, but if you need them, they'll work fine.
-Zack
SvRider4Life
Fri 6/13/03, 1:06PM
Does anybody have a Full Jardine Exhaust system on their Sv? If you do... is it very loud? does it help on the perfromance big time?? and how did you jet it?? thanks!!
Sentinel
Fri 6/13/03, 1:11PM
Check out the video here... not sure if it's a full system.
http://www.socalsvriders.com/download.php?op=viewdownload&cid=4
Oh yeah, this thread will more likely be merged. :D
Paul?
Paul?
Paul!
SvRider4Life
Fri 6/13/03, 1:29PM
yeah i tried that link.. but i couldnt get through.. so thats why im posting it here to see if anybody has the experience on how loud it is and how good it helps the performance...:cool:
chukiechz
Fri 6/13/03, 2:54PM
My friend has a Jardine on his R6 and it sounds great, but LOUD.
in before the merge!!!! :cool:
bloodclot
Fri 6/13/03, 7:47PM
im not sure if has been said in this thread yet, but i like my holeshot system. and i just figured it out that its a full system, after i spent a while trying to find out what a stock system looks like. im assuming its a full system any ways, cause it mounts to the tie down rack instead of the foot peg, and i dont see how they could do that with a stock pipe and a slip on.
im not sure how much it costs, cause it was already on there when i got my bike. but it still sounds bad ass :D
Jlm8667
Sat 6/14/03, 12:25PM
Just installed a "Nikko" high rise on my SV. Great sound, has a clean throaty sound to it, and loks great. Check it out on rumbleimport.com sells for 429.00 I got it off e-bay for 299.00 from them as an introduction. Took 3 days to get it...
You can also hear a sound clip in the downloads section.
Well worth it, sounds a-lot better then the "Jardine"
Justlar
Tue 6/17/03, 7:36PM
Well, I started this thread a while back and finally made a decision to get a Leo Vince full system. Should arrive in a week and then time to slap it on, jet kit and all that stuff.
I considered the Leo, Yosh., Micron, and Remus with vigor and just went with what I was told initially; you will get the most power increase, retain the rear peg, get a good sound and have a good looking high mount with the Leo. All the others are great systems, I trust the guys at Lee's Cycle to not praise a poor product. Good luck with you decision.
Rudeboy
Tue 6/17/03, 9:03PM
I really got to wonder about the difference in power gains that there seems to be between these exhaust systems. Considering what variables there actually are in the architecture: there is one thing that stands out... the diameter of the exhaust tube...
I think that is about the extent of the variance that exists. I don't think that would be considerably different from one manufacturer to the next, the proper diameter would have been tested out (so I believe). I think it is all a bunch of horse shit.
I'm taking my steed to the dyno.... btw no one except yosh has an exhaust for the 03 so I gotta get one of 'dem
LaJollaSV
Sat 6/21/03, 10:38PM
What about exhaust? Do you have any suggestions? I want loud ass pipes to announce my departure and arrival... (oh, and for safety!)
Does anyone have any recomendations?
GsxrGregor
Mon 6/23/03, 8:45PM
I am considering purchasing a Scorpion slip-on, as it seems like the most bang for the buck. I wanted to know (from all those who currently have them) how simple it is to install the pipe? Is it as simple as cutting the stock exhaust off and clamping the new one on?
I did a Search (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/search.php?s=) on "Scorpion Exhaust" and found this thread:
Scorpion Slip-ons (http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2044).
Does that help?
ps. MrPython took a video of Susan's Arrow full Titanium exhaust. It's in the Downloads (http://www.socalsvriders.com/download.php). I really liked the pipe, as it's not common to see an Italian pipe on a Japanese bike. Titanium headers too.
GRich4u
Mon 6/23/03, 9:17PM
I put on my scorpion slip on and love it.. glsvs2002, you are right more bang for the buck.. Plus you dont have to repack it after a period of time, thats something to keep in mind when purchasing a pipe. If you were closer I would say stop by and we could cut it off, I have a compressor with a cutting wheel. Hmm maybe its time for another maintenace day.
:cool:
SvRider4Life
Mon 6/23/03, 9:50PM
Just got done putting in a full exhaust on my Svs (Jardine) and im pretty satisfied with it.. i like the low rumble on idle and its pretty loud when taking off. Still havent re-jetted yet and im planning on doing it soon. so hopefully, when its re-jetted it can help my performance . Cant complain.. :D
meanstreets
Mon 6/23/03, 11:52PM
Hey Rudeboy,
TBR makes one for the 03 and I like it, but that's not saying much, I'm a :squid: . I haven't read much about TBR here though, so maybe it's not very good, but it sounds good to me. Here is a link to their site where they have a .wav file of the exhaust note.
http://www.twobros.com/Exhaust/Suzuki/SV650.shtm
And here's a thread on 2003 SV650/1000 Aftermarket Exhausts:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3413
The Vance & Hines full exhaust that I had on my SVS was nice. Throaty but not annoyingly loud. The jetting helped the power on the top end.
BentValve
Fri 6/27/03, 12:07PM
Two Bros , M4 , Scorpion or Yashimira ? I have heard these in the download section but I think they all sound somewhat the same.
So I have to make a decision based on build quality and peoples first hand experience with these mufflers.
Help me decide.
Thanks
bloodclot
Fri 6/27/03, 1:02PM
........................................... holeshot:p
For fathers day I got my dad the holeshot for his bandit. it looks alot better in person than it does on their web site, and sounds nice too. not too loud. I like it.
-- james
bloodclot
Fri 6/27/03, 9:01PM
i have a holeshot high mount. when ever i get around to scrounging up a digital camera, ill take a few pics for you. prolly not till after i get my new bars on though (next week).
so if you can wait a bit ill get you pictured from few different angles on a red 2000. or if your not interest, ill just save myself the time and not do it at all. just let me know ;)
Does it look like this?
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2185
http://www.socalsvriders.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album76&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
You could take some videos though. I don't think we've got that in our collection.
bloodclot
Sat 6/28/03, 12:12AM
mines not carbon, but the mounting is similar.
and i do indeed have a camera, ill get right on that after i get my new bars ( they are in the mail).
So what would you guys suggest for my first modification on a 2002 SV650S? I would like a little more sound out of my bike which pipe would you guys suggest? I would appreciate any help you guys can give me.
Thanks
Cameron
GraVitY
Thu 7/10/03, 8:03AM
Ok, I'm looking at an exhaust, but I'd like to keep the passenger rear pegs. Do you know which exhausts retain them? Thanx in advance.
Grav.
dnakase
Thu 7/10/03, 8:30AM
My Renegade Dual High Mounts do. They basicly come with spacers and longer bolts so the bracets clear the pipe. You could probably do the same if the pipe you like dosn't provide a solution for retaining the brackets.
Most exhaust retain the rear pegs unless you buy a high mount. Even some of those still may keep them.
GraVitY
Thu 7/10/03, 9:32AM
Sorry that's what I meant, High MOunt. I'm looking at a Yosh or a Micron, but I'm not sure if the Yosh retaines the Rear pegs. Any thoughts??
Sentinel
Thu 7/10/03, 9:59AM
Go check their website. If it doesn't tell you anything, see if they have an 800 number, then call them. Nothing beats specs directly from the manufacturer. And while you're at it, check their suggested price so you can comparison shop.
http://micron-exhaust.com/
http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/default2.asp
burdman
Thu 7/10/03, 12:53PM
Grav,
From the website, it looks like the Micron High Mount retains the pegs. However, the video download of that pipe on this site shows it removed, I'm not sure if that was necessary or not.
I know for a fact that the Leo Vince high mount keeps the passenger pegs. The dealer here in Seattle says great things about the Leo Vince and the Hindle. The Leo Vince is a little pricey though.
I'm in the same boat as you, I need the pegs but I would really like a high mount.
Let us know what you decide
Nick
CDAWG
Thu 7/10/03, 10:21PM
Where can I see a picture of the Renegade Dual High mounts at? Are they much louder than stock? I like the look of the stock pipe but only want a little more sound. Two pipes would be so sweet. Thanks for any help anyone can come up with.
Cameron
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1972
*hint: try using the search feature:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/search.php
dnakase
Thu 7/10/03, 10:50PM
Or look in the Photo Album:
http://www.socalsvriders.com/albums/album24/Picture_005.sized.jpg
jatbudhwar
Sat 7/12/03, 5:28AM
Originally posted by NorCal_SV650S
I have the standard Scorpion Stainless...beautiful sound, but quite loud...it is the Race Can. But I think it is perfect...should have gotten the carbon though.
The Remus is beautiful and looks/sounds great in person...
The Leo Vince high mount looks great in person, but don't know about the sound...but honestly every SV exhaust I have heard is slightly different but all beautiful (except the V&H, it seems sort of rattle prone in the sound not the actual metal).
Avoid the Nikko's, heard they suck.
If you have bank, go for the Renegade system...if you have REAL bank...the dual Renegade high mount...REAL REAL BANK? The dual underseat Renegade system.
NorCal, now that you have heard both the Remus and the Scorpion, which one of the two would you recommend? Any details about the sound ( bass, loudness etc. ) are welcome.
:)
SVFiremedic
Sat 7/12/03, 2:54PM
i still think the Rene's look awsome has a duel..Leo for a single high mount
thejimdaddy
Fri 7/18/03, 7:38PM
I'm looking to getting a pipe for my bike. Does anyone have the Yoshimura? How loud is it? How about the Scorpion? What is a good pipe to get? thanks
GsxrGregor
Tue 7/29/03, 6:29PM
Installed my Scorpion exhaust today, thanks to Gregbenner for selling his to me. Holy $h!t !! It's quite a bit louder, but sounds really tough now. Now to get some good riding pants and then rejet it and I'll be all set :D :D :D
Nanduccio
Wed 7/30/03, 2:06AM
Originally posted by glsvs2002
Installed my Scorpion exhaust today, thanks to Gregbenner for selling his to me. Holy $h!t !! It's quite a bit louder, but sounds really tough now. Now to get some good riding pants and then rejet it and I'll be all set :D :D :D
Scorpion = rumble, young man, rumble!
The thing is, I bet Greg didn't even notice the sound of the pipe coming "down" from his Hog.
GsxrGregor
Wed 7/30/03, 7:54PM
I know, I know! I should already have a pair of pants, I just need to find ones that fit well and (hopefully) zip to the Joe Rocket jacket I have. I tried on the textile pants that they make, but they didn't fit very well. I'll try the leathers and if they aren't good either, then I'll have to go with another brand.
I couldn't pass up Greg's deal at $175 for the pipe though.... It's already putting a big :D on my face
Knightshade
Thu 7/31/03, 12:17PM
Originally posted by SVFiremedic
i still think the Rene's look awsome has a duel..Leo for a single high mount
you won't get much argument from me regarding renegades...but..their cost makes them somewhat prohibitive..ya know?
SVelocity
Thu 7/31/03, 1:16PM
I thinking about buying a slip-on but I was wondering if I can add the headers later on.
A two step process...so I don't have to put a big hole in my wallet all at once.
Thanks,
Chris
Mapuda
Thu 7/31/03, 4:19PM
I thinking about buying a slip-on but I was wondering if I can add the headers later on.
This is from Street and Comp (http://www.streetandcomp.com)
Part 75-SV650SS - Hindle Stainless Steel Header SV650 '99-'02
Hand crafted in Canada, Hindle exhaust systems are designed to give maximum horsepower and ground clearance with minimum weight. Manufactured from thin wall stainless steel, these race pipes are completely spring mounted and contain all hardware, springs and flanges needed for installation. Hindle mufflers are available in either a race baffle (2") or stealth baffle (1 3/4") with your choice of polished aluminum, Titanium, or carbon fiber in round or oval shell design.* For a complete Hindle exhaust system, you must select a muffler from the options column *
Price: $299.95
BluBallz
Thu 7/31/03, 5:06PM
im just curious... how do normal slip ons work? i now you usually have to cut the pipe at a certain spot... but toes the slip on need a connector piece too? does that piece need to be welded?
stevenzil
Thu 7/31/03, 6:30PM
After doing a lot of looking around, I decided to go with an M4 over the TwoBros C4. It was a very hard descision, considering that I did not get to hear it in person... only over the internet. Does anyone have an M4 can? Any thoughts?
Does anyone have any experience with the Akrapovic exhaust? I was looking at one on an R6 the other day and it was sheer eye candy. Cyclemall.net has them on sale for $600
ZombieDude
Sun 8/24/03, 9:35AM
Originally posted by BluBallz
im just curious... how do normal slip ons work? i now you usually have to cut the pipe at a certain spot... but toes the slip on need a connector piece too? does that piece need to be welded?
Yes, slips ons for the SV require that you cut the old pipe (normally a few inches after the front and rear pipes join.
No, most slips ons (in fact all that I know of) do not require you to weld anything. My Holeshot came with a short "joiner pipe" and a couple hose clamps to hold the new pipe in place.
Lockers
Mon 9/15/03, 1:10AM
Anybody invesigated or actually put a hindle exhaust system on their SV? These are excellent quality systems from what I've read..
Any feedback would be great...
swll360
Sat 9/27/03, 9:33AM
Don't know much about the hindle but i did just get Yosh TRS exaust. BAD-A$$. Took me forever to make up my mind. Renegade was way to much $ so it cam down to Micron or Yosh. Toughest decision ever. Either way they both rock. Liked the look of the Tri-Oval....
maranza
Sat 9/27/03, 11:43AM
yeah!
harbiho
Sat 10/11/03, 7:07PM
I kinda stumbled upon the Blue Flame Exhaust website. Their products seem to be well made and reasonably priced. They have single and dual port models in SS, Carbon and full titanium (Ti inside and out).
Has anyone heard of their products?
http://blueflameperformance.com/bikes/
BioTek
Sat 10/11/03, 7:39PM
I have heard of them,they are pretty popular in the U.K, they were used on Steve Hislops championship winning "Duc" in the British Superbike Championship. Cant say what they're like for SV's but they're a reputable company.
BluBallz
Sat 10/11/03, 7:57PM
how much is 278 pounds in english dollars?
GsxrGregor
Sat 10/11/03, 9:25PM
I was searching around for US distributors of Pyramid Plastics (they make those sweet looking seat cowls) and found this (http://www.revsperformance.com/) website. They are a US distributor of BlueFlame exhausts as well. :)
Nice looking cans they make.
Justlar
Sun 10/12/03, 8:21AM
Check out Leo Vince pipes; they have both full systems and slip-ons. I considered an Akrapovic but the it was a little pricey and you lose the rear peg. Many people have a Yosh. or Micron so I went with something different, almost went with a Remus pipe but in the end settled on the Leo after many recommendations.
SVelocity
Sun 10/12/03, 11:23AM
glsvs2002 - Cool Ninja Scroll avatar...
GsxrGregor
Sun 10/12/03, 12:40PM
Originally posted by SVelocity
glsvs2002 - Cool Ninja Scroll avatar...
Thankya :D
pinkyblake
Sun 10/12/03, 1:25PM
hi gang, i like most all titanium, reasons are, the head pipe temps are running cooler and cool off fast, the weight of it, the titanium does not flex or distort when hot like s.s. or reg. stell, there fore you don,t have a change in your header tunning waves, always the same performance!
pinkyblake
Sun 10/12/03, 1:26PM
i,ll get back to you with some specs and pipes i,ve used on the storms monday.
QUICKAG03SV
Sun 10/12/03, 6:37PM
Has anyone heard anything good or bad about Two Brothers pipes? I heard one and it sounded nice?
drougeau
Sun 10/12/03, 7:04PM
Has anyone heard anything good or bad about Two Brothers pipes? I heard one and it sounded nice
If you're interested in the TBR pipe for your bike, check this link out. This guy has good instructions and pics of the one he installed. He also has a video clip of the pipe and it sounds really good. www.nramsey.net/bike.html
QUICKAG03SV
Mon 10/13/03, 7:30PM
I saw that site and I like it I was just wondering if they were any good? I would hate to buy somthing then find out its crap.
2wheelernut
Mon 10/13/03, 7:46PM
I'm still looking myself, and am considering either a TBR, a Scorpion, or a Yosh tri oval. Man, my head is spinning. Haven't heard a TBR yet, but check out the svrider (svrider.com) message board. TBR's definitely have a following out there...
thejimdaddy
Mon 10/13/03, 8:06PM
Originally posted by 2wheelernut
I'm still looking myself, and am considering either a TBR, a Scorpion, or a Yosh tri oval. Man, my head is spinning. Haven't heard a TBR yet, but check out the svrider (svrider.com) message board. TBR's definitely have a following out there...
those are what i have narrowed down tooo
2wheelernut
Mon 10/13/03, 8:48PM
Pretty tough decision, isn't it? Hmm, looks/ground clearance of the Yosh, low maintenance of the Scorpion, fit and finish of the TBR . . . as for sound/tone, the sound clips on the net aren't a reliable comparison. What I need: identical SV's with different cans mounted, so I can compare. Wouldn't that be nice?
BTW, does anyone know if/how the exhaust gas sensor needs to be modified on CA models when installing a slip-on? I came across that little warning, and haven't seen any posts regarding that mod. Help.
wadaribaba
Tue 10/14/03, 5:50AM
I just installed the Yohimura TRS slip on my '03 svs :D and it definitely sounds much better now. I have also heard the Renegade duals but I like the Yosh better. Definitely recommend it ! Just my $.02 worth
drougeau
Tue 10/14/03, 6:06AM
I saw that site and I like it I was just wondering if they were any good? I would hate to buy somthing then find out its crap.
All the common pipes are good and sound nice. I just ordered the C-2 Aluminum slip-on and it should be here in a couple of days. I'll probably install it on Saturday so I'll let you know how it sounds and post a picture of it.
2wheelernut
Tue 10/14/03, 4:53PM
Originally posted by wadaribaba
I just installed the Yohimura TRS slip on my '03 svs :D and it definitely sounds much better now. I have also heard the Renegade duals but I like the Yosh better. Definitely recommend it ! Just my $.02 worth
Did you get the zyclone or race baffle? I think most people get the race. I've got a friend with RS-3's (zyclone, I think) on his Hayabusa. They seem a little tame, but then again, the only time I hear them up close is when he's idling on the driveway or something. Race vs. Zyclone: what's your opinion? I would appreciate your $.02 worth again (for a total of $.04). Thanks.
BTW I just joined the other day . . . these message boards are helpful and seriously addictive! (My wife thinks I'm taking out the garbage right now.)
wadaribaba
Tue 10/14/03, 5:57PM
Originally posted by 2wheelernut
Did you get the zyclone or race baffle? I think most people get the race. I've got a friend with RS-3's (zyclone, I think) on his Hayabusa. They seem a little tame, but then again, the only time I hear them up close is when he's idling on the driveway or something. Race vs. Zyclone: what's your opinion? I would appreciate your $.02 worth again (for a total of $.04). Thanks.
BTW I just joined the other day . . . these message boards are helpful and seriously addictive! (My wife thinks I'm taking out the garbage right now.)
2wheelernut:
LOL ! Ok, here's another $0.02 worth :D
I got the race baffle. I dont think the TRS comes in a Zyclone baffle. (At least, I couldnt find it on the yoshimura web site) and I dont think it's too loud. It definitly makes the bike sound like a V twin should and I think it makes the bike sound like abigger bike too (just my opinion). So if you ask me, the race baffle is definitely the way to go.
Oh, and welcome to the website ! I'm logged on most of the time on his web site as well as www.svrider.com/phpbb
Cheers !
tripleboston
Thu 10/16/03, 11:56AM
Originally posted by Mapuda
If I had unlimited funds I would love the dual renegade underseat setup YOW what a sound.
I opted for a can from Remus. I got it mail order from Maxmoto up in San Francisco. www.maxmoto.com. The guy I spoke to is named Helli. Very nice guy who spent some quality time on the phone with me to make sure I installed it correctly.
I love the sound and performance of the bike. I am going to 152.5 main jets, 3 turns on the air/fuel screw and the snorklectomy this weekend.
I don't have a picture of the can on my bike because by digital camera is a piece, but here is a photo that Helli sent me that clinched the deal for me.
Did you do the install yourself? What sort of tools did you need? This was the carbon pipe right?
tripleboston
Thu 10/16/03, 4:27PM
I went into a bike shop today to check out the Remus pipes - there were 4 different types. Does anyone know the difference?
Revolution, Genesis, Grand Prix, Innovation
Also, is there a difference between high mount and low mount or is it personal preference?
johnnyboywdz
Sat 10/18/03, 6:51PM
Gotta agree from what I've heard about Rene's - Saving up for twin high level carbon cans and the air kit Jorge fits, cost about £850 Sterling
Everyone over here raves about them.
Go for it!!!!! I think they have a supplier over in the US
Noahrob
Sat 10/18/03, 10:12PM
Surrey, B.C?
2wheelernut
Sun 11/2/03, 11:24AM
I just installed my new TBR C2 aluminum oval slipon yesterday. I'll let the face say how I feel about it::D :D :D :D !
I highly recommend Pipe City in Arizona. Great service, free shipping. The only problem I encountered was not their fault: my pipe was only a few hours away from my house in California when it was inexplicably routed to (get this) CONNECTICUT!!!! Called Pipe City to see what was up, they tracked it, then got on the phone and told Fed Ex that their customer has a race on the weekend and needs his pipe before Saturday. This was Thursday afternoon. The pipe was at my door mid-Friday!
Pipe City's owner told me that Fed Ex has done this three times in a month, and told me my case was the last straw; they're switching back to UPS. Good move, as far as I'm concerned.
Pipe City:;)
luke foley
Mon 11/3/03, 3:57PM
I do a lot of riding with my friends that all have four cyl bikes. I need an exhaust that is going to make my sv stand out and be heard like those inline fours!! any one have any suggestions on that?
thejimdaddy
Mon 11/3/03, 4:11PM
yes read the topic:D how loud you want?
zzzwillzzz
Mon 11/3/03, 4:13PM
keep it stock and learn how to ride. six hundred dollars spent at two track schools or better yet, one track school and three track days will make you really fast. your pipe won't matter once you get out of sight and they can't see you or keep up with you. most racers i've seen use an m4 or yosh full system
luke foley
Mon 11/3/03, 4:49PM
has anyone had any problems after re jetting their carbs ? I want to put a pipe on my sv but a lot of people told me not to becuase once you jet your carbs your bike will never run the same again! does any have any opions?
2wheelernut
Mon 11/3/03, 6:08PM
Of course it won't; it'll run better . . . if you do it right. The bike comes from the factory leaned out to pass emission standards. Even without a new pipe, the bike would almost certainly benefit from larger mains. Amost everyone shims the needles and adjusts the fuel/air mixture screws (somewhere between 2 and 3 turns out seems to be standard). I'm going from 137.5 mains to 140's first (I still have the stock air filter). Do some research on these message boards (check out svrider.com, too). Someone on svrider even submitted a thread with a form where people can provide all relevant information: what location (what elevation they live at), what pipe, what mains, needle shims, air filter, how many turns on a/f mixture screw, etc. Just reading through that will tell yo