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ersigh
Wed 7/31/02, 11:56PM
My bike died today ...
Not exactly sure what's wrong with it ... I've had 4 different ideas shoved down my throat today (i didn't even ASK ...) ...
I'm going to act on one idea given to me, even tho' I don't totally buy it, it's the most reasonable of ideas ... (voltage regulator taking a big fat dump).
No, I'm not discussing symptoms. I'll share more when it's fixed ... (i'm pissy about no one treating me like i've got a brain) ...
:finger: to every well meaning, know it all ...
:finger: suzuki
:finger: ?? people are just trying to help. and I am quite sure people are not assuming you are clueless
Stinky
Thu 8/1/02, 12:11AM
There's a red switch on the right grip. Flip it down and your bike should start...:D
ersigh
Thu 8/1/02, 12:18AM
Originally posted by Burst
:finger: ?? people are just trying to help. and I am quite sure people are not assuming you are clueless
If you say so ...
In this situation, I feel my feelings matter enough that I am not willing to backdown on the fact that after having FOUR different people jump on me about this, that I just can't help but feel that my input doesn't matter in those situations (i practically had to argue with someone that it's NOT THAT because the SYMPTOMS DON'T FUCKING MATCH THAT) ...
gah.
I'm sorry, but as a female, I end up having to have this edge, because it's nearly impossible to avoid getting this ... it's really really common to be treated like I have no clue ... all because of GOOD INTENTIONS ...
And you know, it's amazing what a bit of good intentions mixed with a bit of communicative qualifying can do ...
(and YOU MR. SENSITIVE shouldn't take it so f-n personally)
ersigh
Thu 8/1/02, 12:18AM
Originally posted by Stinky
There's a red switch on the right grip. Flip it down and your bike should start...:D
Hmmm ...
I have one word for you ...
Fired.
buymenow00
Thu 8/1/02, 12:20AM
There was a thread a while ago back on the SVRider.com forum (not the board, but the forum!) about bad voltage regulators...seems like it wasn't totally uncommon on bikes with decent mileage...you might want to go back there and check...
Sorry to hear about that...I can only imagine how you must feel...:sad:
was not taking it personally but whatever. just offering an opinion.
Not that you want unsolicited idea's of what is wrong, but with 2500 miles on my 01 (S) my starter clutch went. That was fun trying too figure out. Everything came on, hit the run switch, hit the start button & hear this wurling sound. Had to get the thing towed. Just a thought. hope everything works out for you.
Natedawgg
Thu 8/1/02, 9:58AM
Hey, did you put gas in it?
:D
dnakase
Thu 8/1/02, 4:40PM
We guys are just as clueless... if the mechanic says the flimmer is interfering with whozzits, we just nod our heads and go, "Yah, that happened before"
The other thing I find annoying, (and am probably as guilt as anyone else), is having a little knowledge and inflating that to Master Wrench Know it All. Seems to be as common as testicles amungst the bike crowd.
Originally posted by Natedawgg
Hey, did you put gas in it?
:D
I was at a gas station when I discovered it wouldn't turn back on ...
WHAT DO YOU THINK???
:finger:
:D
Originally posted by dnakase
We guys are just as clueless... if the mechanic says the flimmer is interfering with whozzits, we just nod our heads and go, "Yah, that happened before"
The other thing I find annoying, (and am probably as guilt as anyone else), is having a little knowledge and inflating that to Master Wrench Know it All. Seems to be as common as testicles amungst the bike crowd.
There are two main type of computer techs ...
There are ones who when you tell them half the problem, jump up and say I KNOW WHAT IT IS ... and begin to fix the computer as if that is the problem, all their troubleshooting will be revolved around their initial assumption.
Then there are the others, who take their collective knowledge, and just use it as reference. Taking information given to them (listening and then qualifying with whom they are listening to), then work on recreating the issue, going down a list of possible things, and while having a few ideas, not resting on any one of them until they've troubleshot it enough to be sure.
Although the second sounds time consuming, it actually ends up taking LESS time 95% of the time (cuz' sometimes those first ones just happen to be right) ...
Guess which of the two I am?
I have discovered that a lot of guys with toys are far far worse than any Microsoft Certified computer tech I've ever met ...
There are exceptions ... of course ...
I'm gonna go w/Mike's idea (which Aaron had mentioned to me) ... troubleshoot it and see if the symptoms persist with that idea, and if it is ... it is thankfully covered under warranty and will be fixed ... until then, I'll just get to be hardcore and bumpstart my bike ...
dnakase
Thu 8/1/02, 9:45PM
Originally posted by ersigh
There are two main type of computer techs ...
There are ones who when you tell them half the problem, jump up and say I KNOW WHAT IT IS ... and begin to fix the computer as if that is the problem, all their troubleshooting will be revolved around their initial assumption.
Then there are the others, who take their collective knowledge, and just use it as reference. Taking information given to them (listening and then qualifying with whom they are listening to), then work on recreating the issue, going down a list of possible things, and while having a few ideas, not resting on any one of them until they've troubleshot it enough to be sure.
Although the second sounds time consuming, it actually ends up taking LESS time 95% of the time (cuz' sometimes those first ones just happen to be right) ...
Guess which of the two I am?
I have discovered that a lot of guys with toys are far far worse than any Microsoft Certified computer tech I've ever met ...
There are exceptions ... of course ...
I'm gonna go w/Mike's idea (which Aaron had mentioned to me) ... troubleshoot it and see if the symptoms persist with that idea, and if it is ... it is thankfully covered under warranty and will be fixed ... until then, I'll just get to be hardcore and bumpstart my bike ...
I was taught trouble shooting by a guy who fit the former and taught the latter.
He'd spend hours spinning his wheels.
I'd follow the logical progression of eliminate what it isn't then fix what's left.
Then I knew of a guy ,who'd power off a crashed PC (Mac in this case), hit the on button, "laying hands" on the monitor like a televagnelist... and 90% of the time the user would thing he was some kind of Geek God as their computer booted back to life.
ersigh
Fri 8/2/02, 10:31PM
Originally posted by dnakase
Then I knew of a guy ,who'd power off a crashed PC (Mac in this case), hit the on button, "laying hands" on the monitor like a televagnelist... and 90% of the time the user would thing he was some kind of Geek God as their computer booted back to life.
LOL
that's kewl.
i can't count how many times i'd go to help a client with something, and the computer would do what it was supposed to do ... and they'd be like "WHAT THE FUCK?? i did it the same as you did ...!!" and i'd just smile ... knowing that the next time I'm stuck, it could happen to me (and did) ...
Bah, even my evil bike ... it now starts up just fine ...
bwarbiany
Sat 8/3/02, 3:18PM
They say that, but they NEVER did it the same as you... If they did, it would have worked ;)
Brad
PS - I've been plenty jaded by tech support work... Can ya tell?
I have problem whit my sv.Regulator/rectifier is fried. :( Is it possible that regulator/rectifier is fried by it self whit out other problems or I should check installations.Sv is 99. and it has 15000 miles.Has any of you had similar problems.
Thanks
dnakase
Fri 9/5/03, 6:39AM
In my limited experience with electrical problems usually the stator (generator) is also affected, but I'll leave the final word to the experts. (Zoran?)
borrego
Fri 9/5/03, 7:41AM
Do check the battery also.
It's a known issue found by the Honda VFR communities that the V4 engine heat and dry up the lead-acid battery and casue the rectifier/regulator to blow.
The V2 of the SV generate less heat but might cause the same issue in the long run
BluBallz
Fri 9/5/03, 8:21AM
i talked to this guy once that said that all sv's have this problem and its covered under warranty ... first symptoms he says is your bike not cranking up and turning on and having to recharge the battery all the time... did you get the extended warranty???
That is right the bike want turn on at first attempt I have to try 2 or 3 times.Bike also have problem whit high rpm's.Generator is Ok I think I check it like it says manual.
P.S. Here in Croatia there we do not have any warranties.
We have it just on paper.When you buy the bike you are on your own for servicing.
most like regulator is bad.does not charge good enough.you can test stator to see if you have 70V AC out of it across those 3 yellow wires.
regulator turns it in to 12V DC.
you are not only one with bad regulator.they do go bad by itself without anything else been problem.
I was hoping it would be like that.Now I must get new regulator.Here that is mission impossible but I hoping I would get it in another 7-10 days.
bwarbiany
Fri 9/5/03, 5:30PM
One thing you might want to do is buy a normal computer fan (12 V). Put the fan on the heat sink over the rectifier. Part of what can kill the rectifier is too much heat...
darko
Tue 9/16/03, 10:39AM
Just to remind you guys, last week my electric current regulator went off, and it seems impossible to get a new one in Croatia, Slovenia or even Italy.
I might be able to get a hold of a regulator for SV650 2002. My SV650N is from 1999.
I was wondering, is the only difference between regulators for 1999 and 2002 in wiring and connectors or is there more "in-depth" structural difference in the device itself?
Thanks for the replies.
bwarbiany
Tue 9/16/03, 3:43PM
2002 should be the same as 1999. In case (since this is a known problem) of any differences, it will likely be better. Most likely it'll have the same wiring though...
Check the microfiche (see downloads section) for part numbers to make sure they're the same...
GsxrGregor
Mon 9/29/03, 8:37AM
Hmm.. I tried to fire up my bike on Sunday morning and, while the lights and gauges came on, the battery didn't have enough juice to start the bike. I'm hoping that it's just the battery needing to be charged, since my bike's a 2001 model that wasn't sold until Feb '03. I was under the impression that the charging system would keep the battery pretty well charged. Does the fact that I use my high-beams most of the time have anything to do with this?
bwarbiany
Mon 9/29/03, 12:11PM
The SV's (and most bikes) charging system is very weak...
SVSmiles
Wed 6/20/07, 10:43PM
I thought I’d add the following link to a pic I just edited that’s related to this topic.
>Voltage R/R Swap (http://www.socalsvriders.org/modules.php?set_albumName=albup60&id=SVSmiles_VR_SV_GSXR_SWAP&op=modload&name=Photo_Gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php)<
Hope maybe someone doing a future search here finds it of use.
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