600 mile maintenance service

[Motofrenzy]

Hello all,

This is my first topic starter on this board. This Wed. I had my 600 mile service done on my bike at Performance Motorsorts in south Orange county. They charged $97.00 plus parts, the total was $126.00. The reason I bring this up is that the dealer I purchased my bike at (Del Amo Motorsports) wanted to charge me $200.00 plus parts. They estimated a total of around $235.00. In my eyes this seems like a rip off and I'm kinda bummed out because they are my local shop. What has been your experience?

Paul

Yah hoooo, passed my driver test on the first try Monday!

[buymenow00]

Well, I had my first service done at Del Amo...about $235. I looked at the checklist and felt something hard in my butt...:eek:

That's when I decided that ALL future service on my bike would be done by ME!

How come you went all the way down to OC for your service? Are you gonna stop by the house on Sunday for the Carb Party??

[Motofrenzy]

Whats a Carb party? I sent you an E-mail and since found out I am not working on Sunday. so... Carb party you say... Any riding involved in that? I might stop by and say hello, how do I get there?

Paul

[RACERX]

For $235 what did they actually do to the bike?
And for $126 what did they do to the bike?
some dealers say they have check valve cleareances, change oil/filter,tighten bolts, carb synch, check chain and throttle.
but one dealer said if I do the oil change the 600 mile service would only be $65
please help
thanks
racerx

[Setter32]

Do it yourself.............

Dealer baaaddddd.....................

Dealer very baaaddddd........................

On my list of bad people..............." the dealer " would be just under Stalin and Hitler...............

.............get it?...........................

Ask buyme how easy it is.................

Ask the porn monk........I mean....Todd........how easy it is.......

Ask Nate if he felt ripped off.............

Ask me if I felt ripped off..............

Go ahead.............

ASK !!!!!


:D

[Todd Hata]

I didn't get ripped off, thanks to Mike. He showed me how easy it is to do the service, except for the carb sync which Rick helped me with a few days later. Saved some $, learned something, and gave away dvds. Thanks again guys.

[buymenow00]

Yeah, carb sync is the one thing we didn't do on Todd, but was there really that much of a difference after you did it? I'm hoping to do the sync thing on Saturday...I have the parts...once you've set your bike up with the Carolyn Boyce mods then carb syncing should be a snap!

The other thing Todd that we forgot was we shoulda warmed the chain up a bit prior to adding the lube...my bad! I'm sure you're ok though...hey, did you get any fling off your chain?

[buymenow00]

Here's a link to the "Carb Party" thread under Rideouts and Events...

http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350

Basically it's a rejetting exercise...shims and air screw drill out as well...the standard carb mods. Good education if you plan on upgrading your exhaust in the future!

Starts at 10:30 on Sunday!

[Todd Hata]

nope, didn't get any fling off the chain, actually I'm overdue for another lube, if there's time can I use your stand again?

[buymenow00]

...that'll be one dvd please! :D

(one without 60 year old grannies in it please...)

[RACERX]

Is the carb synch really necessary???

[Setter32]

not at 600 anyway...........

A few of us sync our carbs a while back, and I think only one bike was really off. The rest of the bikes were fine.

Unless you notice that something is definitely off, just wait until the next sync party to do your carbs.

But.........if you have money to burn...........take it to the dealer. He's your beeeeest friend.

:D

[Stinky]

Originally posted by RACERX
Is the carb synch really necessary???

I just did my first one at 8000mi. It just really smoothed out the throttle. And I used a carb sync I made for a less than $2.

[bwarbiany]

I did mine at 11.5K miles... Usually the dealer doesn't do much in the 600 mile service... They tighten a few bolts and change the oil. You can do this quite easily yourself... Talk to NorCal list (you're in Tracy, right?), and I'm sure you can probably get some help if needed...

Brad
PS - My bike was way off on the carb sync, it really improved throttle response (or so the butt-dyno tells me).

[pfletch]

This seems like a simple thing, change the oil& filter, check some bolts, check clutch cable. Is it as simple as it sounds, or is there anything special I'm overlooking. changed my car oil plenty of times, so it should be a bo brainer, right?
Any/all advice welcomed.
My local dealer has a week waiting time for appointments(outrageous I thought), so I really want to do it myself.
I just installed head/brake light modulators(or at least my friend did) I passed him shit basically. I feel so much more secure now, even though I know I shoudn't feel to secure there are still a lot of dozy f--kers out there.

[Golden_Eternity]

When I hit 600, I called up Lee's Cycles and they had a month waiting list... I took it to a different dealer for it, and it was like $170...

It was a full day at the shop. They had to wait a while for everything to cool down, first... You may end up having to leave it overnight, if you take it in.

Maybe I got screwed, but I feel comfortable about taking it to the dealer for that service... Did the 4k for myself, though.

[No_Brakes23]

I paid somewhere between 90-120 at funbike, (where I got my bike)

I'd rather do it myself if I had the time.

fletch, your options might be more limited in Riverside, BUT

Maybe you could ride to O.C. (I assume there are more bike shops in the 714)

or

Buy a Factory service manual and tough it out

or

maybe there will be another maintenance day soon, maybe in Murietta so you won't have to ride as far. Hint, Hint.

(God knows I need to lube my chain/change my Oil.)

[bwarbiany]

There are a load of people here who could help you out... But the 600 mile service is really easy. It's pretty much an oil change, bolt tighten, and inspection of everything... There's a service manual in the "Downloads" section here, and if you're mildly mechanically inclined you can figure it out...

I'd offer my services, but I think I'm pretty busy the next few weekends, and I know you'd want to get this done ASAP :D

Brad

[chukiechz]

I did mine on my own. Changing the oil was a dream, cause it only took 5 minutes, and it didnt involve climbing underneath a 4000 lb hunk of metal on 2 stands.

I tried to retorque all the bolts, but they were fine. Must be overtightened or something. Only ones that needed any tightening were the exhaust bolts.

[Burst]

Originally posted by No_Brakes23
maybe there will be another maintenance day soon, maybe in Murietta so you won't have to ride as far. Hint, Hint.

Is this your not-so-subtle way of asking me to host another wrenchfest? :D

[chukiechz]

Originally posted by Burst
Is this your not-so-subtle way of asking me to host another wrenchfest? :D
I think you need to hurry with the undertails!!! :D doesnt look like santa is going to be bringing my bike a present this year! :sad:

[peaty]

well i took my bike in to south bay motor-sports for it's 600 mile. turned out to be the MOST expensive oil change in history. 130 bucks. caught a lot of grief from my buddy who rides a gixxer. but with the break-in period i felt a little better having the shop do it. the next services i'll be doing my self though.


PS. no brakes: if you really need to lube your chain(and you do i saw it) cruise by. i know it's a looooong ride but i think you can handle it.:)


tom

[pcperks]

They do more than change your oil. They tighten all your cables, check and adjust the chain tension, and all that stuff. Just so you know you weren't getting screwed.

[peaty]

ohh i know when i ask the mech how everything was he said everythings great. i begged him to tell me something needed to be torqued. :)


tom

[Adrian]

Isn't there something in the handbook about checking the carb balance on CA models at 600 miles? Thought I saw that.

To my shame, I still have not got 600 miles on mine yet.

Must get out and ride.

Adrian.

[wbrebb]

Newbie here...and yes I have searched the forum for this topic, so forgive any redundancy.

I have 611 miles (probably 650 after I pick up the filter tonight at CC of Denton) and plan not to shell-out the $150 for this first service. I figure the oil change is basic and I can clean & lube the chain w/o a problem, but what about tightening cables and bolts? How do I do all this? How do I know which bolts? As we all know the '03 shop manual is not out yet...any info would be really appreciated.

Anything else I should know?

Thanks again & happy riding.

[Tillers_Rule]

Well, the OWNERS maual should tell you everything you need to do. Your right NOT to shell out the money as an oil change/chain lube are the only real technical things(if you can even call them that) that need doing.

Just go through and check any visible bolts, as far as cables go, not really any way of tightening or loosening them, just make sure the throttle doesnt have too much or too little play in it.

Hope that helps, good luck.

:)

[GMAN]

Check the following bolts...

Engine cover/clutch case
Exhaust mounts, headers, canister brackets
Triple clamp bolt
Axle nuts

Basically, go over the bolts that typically don't have loctite put on 'em.

[pinkyblake]

i work for suzuki, your matainence guide tells you at what miles you have to do valve adjust, that would be around 195.00 - 245.00 plus parts. no valves should be around 90.00 - 130.00 plus parts, oil,filter,drain plug crush washer. some shops have a set price for service no matter what is needed? i do these every day, like the new tls ,no vales till 15k if i remember right. feel free to e me at pinkyblake2003@yahoo.com if you have any tech questions or think you may be getting ripped off by a dealer. i am the lead tech for a good dealer!

[Setter32]

......no offense..........but the price your quoting is still a bit high.....

.....especially............when we can do it ourselves (minus the valve adjustment, which is not needed for the first 600 miles service)..........for the price of a few liters of oil and a filter.......

.....takes about 30 min.........maybe an hour for a newbie........

.....I can't figure out how the dealers can charge for more than an hour worth of work to do this................unless they synch the carb....but then they usually even charge more ......

.....if the price includes parts.....and premium oil...........then it might be reasonable.....

....like I said.........no offense meant.................just a point of view from a consumer stand point.......



:D

[Loyolan]

and a carb synch shouldn't take a "professional" any longer than 20 minutes.

[pinkyblake]

hi, yes your right, when i do a first service i also check compression, do a leak down to see if there are tight valves or blow by the rings, they may have not seated,check oil pressure, unplug fuel mixture if needed on carb models which most times they are, on fi remap if to lean, check charging system and the list goes on, the first service is very important one, working for a dealer allows me to check for bulletin's and recalls. i know most of you can do alot of this and any time you can do it, i beleive in saving money also, my car a bmw, i pay through the rearend when i take it to the dealer but some times i have to! thanks for all your time. talk to you later. blake

[badlydrwnboy]

I just got an SV650s and I'm loving it, riding every day. Put a couple hundred miles on it in the first week. Think I'm going to hit 600 miles soon, the first suggested maintenance in the guide, and I realize I have no clue how to do any of it. I've never worked on cars or anything mechanical. Probably can figure out how to change the oil, but everything else on that list seems, um, hard.

Does anyone have a suggestion for how I can learn how to do all this stuff? I'm in LA and I've been looking for an LA maintenance day, but haven't seen one yet. I'd love to hear your ideas...

Thanks
Chris

[pfletch]

I don't remember what exactly is on the "list"but an oil and filter change is basically it. I just can't see the "list" being completed by a bike tech at the dealership. I think as long as youchange the oil and filter you will be ok.

[badlydrwnboy]

according to the maintenance chart, at 600 miles i'm supposed to:

replace

oil and filter (think i can do that)

inspect and adjust, clean, lubricate:

engine idle speed
carburettor synchronization
throttle cable play
drive chain
brakes
steering

tighten

exhaust pipe bolt & nut
chassis bolts and nuts
(i can probably do this too)

it's the middle part - inspect, clean and adjust - that i have no idea about

[oren]

Do they really tell you to synchronize the carburetors on a 2003 SV650? (seeing as how there aren't any...)

[Tillers_Rule]

Good point Oren.

Save some bucks and do the service yourself. Or spend some bucks and I'll do it for you:D

[ward]

confidence in your work is the key factor,
if you're not sure about your work you won't feel confident on the bike, every strange noise will make you worried about if you did something wrong.

but, it is pretty simple to do and much cheaper to do it yourself.

buy a shop manual or use the one you can download on this site, or have some of the locals over to guide you. I'm sure some of em would come over if you bought them some pizza and beer. I'd almost guarantee Kurt would come over for pizza and beer.

pizza and beer would be WAY cheaper than paying a mechanic

and you'd learn along the way!

[sandie]

you should come to the santa ana maint day on 12/6
http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=77638#post77638
i don't thing it would be too far for you
and i think a few people are going to be there for you to meet :D

[badlydrwnboy]

i would love to come down. unfortunately, i am taking the MSF course that saturday in hollywood. are these maintenance days fairly regular events?
chris

[oren]

Everything there except a sync anyone could probably show you fairly quickly. If you're in the OC area on a weekend and want to meet me and ask questions, I'd have no problem showing you. PM me if you want to meet in Costa Mesa and I'll send you directions.

I have the tool for the carb sync since I had an EX500 a year ago but I doubt your fuel injectors would need it after 600 miles.

[sandie]

i wouldn't say regular...but they happen

i think i'm going to put on my new tires this weekend at my friend's shop in long beach...lemme ask him if he minds if you come too, i'll get back to you

[TIE_Pilot]

Tightening all the chassis nuts and bolts isn't as easy as it sounds, but of course you can do it... the steering head and axle nuts are large (19mm? 21mm? I forget... but larger than you find in a standard tool kit). Also the rear suspension nuts are blocked by the exhaust.


I have the tool for the carb sync since I had an EX500 a year ago but I doubt your fuel injectors would need it after 600 miles.


Mine were way out of whack at 600 miels... see the 03 throttle valve sync thread: http://www.socalsvriders.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4923&highlight=2003+and+sync

[Loyolan]

i find it unlikely that many (if anybody) REALLY check the torque on all those nuts & bolts...

[pinkyblake]

yes you need to sink the throttle bodies at 600 miles, i,ve found many a caliber bolt and others loose, reason? the set up companys dealers use such as d&d hire min. wagers with no clue to take the bikes out of the crate and put together, then it gets to the dealer and the pdi guy is not much better, they will juice the battery and fuel it, then start it, i,ve watched this time and time again. the bosses don,t seem to care??? pdi = pre delivery inspection. good luck

[badlydrwnboy]

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll post again when I get to the 600 mile mark. So far the bike is running great and I love it!
CK

[Wozzer]

Should I shell out the $200 for the 600 mile service? I don't want to get screwed for warrenty work down the road but if it's all stuff I can do myself I'd rather get to know my bike a bit better and spend the money on a lid upgrade or something. What do y'all think?

[GetnJgyWitit]

As long as you keep all the recepts of all your oil changes and other stuff your warrenty should be ok. I did my 600 mile service my self.

[deno]

what he said. save yourself some cash money and do it yourself. Other than the oil change the dealership just makes sure nothing is falling off your bike. lol

[hotshoe]

Buy the Suzuki socket head oil filter wrench, it's like $6, I have seen posts from 4 riders who have stripped the oil filter threads on the 03, sorry but that's really silly.

Take that same $200, get a decent torque wrench, metric sockets, metric hex head sockets and think of it as an investment for your bikes future. Shop mechanics break bolts and strip threads out all the time. You have only 1*, and ultimately you are the only one who cares if a job has been done correctly.

I do all my own servicing. Exhaust/head bolts are a biggy on the 03 and mine needed retorqueing at 600/1200. I retorqued all bolts (except those requiring the special Suzuki tools) to OEM specs at 600/1200/2400. It takes a fair amount of time, done correctly, and getting to the rear header bolts is a pain.

[TIE_Pilot]

I agree... do it yourself, if you need advice about the throttle valve sync, there's a thread here for it.

[Wozzer]

Thanks all, I will in fact be doing it myself tonight (after I put another 200 miles on ;)). I have sockets/rachets etc because I work on my car. I'm looking through the service manual and it seems within my skills (I'm not an experienced tech).

What are the special Suzuki tools and can they be purchased? Are they worth it?

[pinkyblake]

buy the k&n oil filter, you won,t need the filter socket, remove the stock one with channel locks or something along them lines, the k&n flows great and has the nut on it with hole for saftey wire, make sure to rub some oil on the o ring of new filter and don,t over tighten, you can deform the new filter, i only tighten with my hand as tight as i can get it. don,t use a fram, there a post about the fram filters. good luck

[slowmike]

anybody know?

[headkase]

Whats going on fellas. Couple quick ?'s. Just passed 600 miles on the new SV. I am a certified Moto Repair dude and I think the dealer is trying to rape me. $140 plus parts(oil and filter). All Ive read about the SV maint. is for the chain adjustment, oil and filter change, make sure chassis and bolts are tight. Where the hell are they getting the $140?! Thanks:confused:

[FuzyTech]

Ummm.... If you are a "certified Moto Repair dude", why are you taking it to a dealer? Just curious....

BTW: 140 is nothing compared to the jerk-offs down here that charge $300 to check the chain & valves and change the oil. :(

[headkase]

I worked on countless used bikes including all of my own but this is my first "new" bike. I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing anything.

[PSV]

Can anyone recommend a good place to go in the San Diego area to get the first (600 mile) service done on my SV1000S?

I am new to San Diego and would like some recommendations, especially since the bigger dealers in the area wasted so much of my time when I was looking for a quote for a new bike.

Cheers

[BioTek]

I'd recommend doing it yourself as its pretty straight forward, cant think that there'd be much diff in a 600 mile service on the 1000 compared to the 650.
Other than that get hold of Pinkyblake from this board, find him by searching the members register, and ask him to do it, he's a Suzuki mech and will likely give you a favorable rate.
Oh,I gotta ask as a Brit too, what part of Blighty are you from??

[PSV]

Was born in Bedford, lived for nearly 8 years in Oxford and moved to UTC just over a month ago.

Am hesitant to service the bike myself since I have no tools yet and want it done well. Depends on how much it will cost though.

Does the guy you recommend work in a shop?

[BioTek]

I was born and raised in Watford, like 20 miles away!
I'm in UTC, how soon do you need it serviced coz I can help with oil and filter etc if you come to mine. I can help you out maybe Wednesday evening if you get the filter and oil sorted. Maybe someone else here can chime in if the 03's fuel injection needs messing with? Tie Pilot, whats the deal with the TPS??
My understanding is that Pinky (Dwayne) worked for a shop but left and is in process of setting himself up in business and is working from home right now (or was a few months back). He's not shady or anything.
Have pm'd you my cell number.

[PSV]

So where should I go for my 600 mile service? S.D.SV has offered help with the oil and filter change (just moved to San Diego, no tools), but I want the other stuff done properly since I got the bike really cheap, and you can never be sure it is set up right.

[linp]

Check out the Shops List,
http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=242

[TIE_Pilot]

I still say do it yourself... no one cares about it as much as you do... and you'll learn a lot.

[SoulDaddy]

Pacific Motorsports in Oceanside just did my 600 check (at 2,200 miles -- I had already changed the oil 3 times before I took it in...)

I've had some weird gearbox things going on and just wanted them to be documented in case things get worse down the road.

The service writer, Steve, was pretty good to deal with but overall the job they did was weak. Told them my rear brake was nearly useless and showed them where one of the drain lines was defective; neither of those things were addressed. I would have left it even longer but I had a ride to go on the following day.

The mechanic wrote in an extra 1.5 hours on to the work order for gearbox inspection which was total crap, so the service guy took it off. Ran me $164 and that was with me taking my own oil in to them.

[Knightshade]

Originally posted by S.D.SV

My understanding is that Pinky (Dwayne) worked for a shop but left and is in process of setting himself up in business and is working from home right now (or was a few months back). He's not shady or anything.

I'll vouch for Dwayne, left my bike with him for about a week or so and he did a great job w/it..runs so much smoother!! It felt like a different bike when I got it back..great stuff!!

[TIE_Pilot]

Guys... barring a major warranty issue, there's nothing rocket science about the 600 mile. You change the oil, retorque some bolts (can take a while but not hard) and you sync the throttle bodies (takes no time at all because some of us here have already done all your homework for you)...

Even with the warranty issues, I still prefer to know what the problem is before I take it to the dealer. Why? Because the guy who writes me up at the dealer doesn't listen to a goddamn thing I say... (end of rant)

[PSV]

OK, I have oil, filter, and washer waiting. Funbike centre didnt have a filter wrench, so I as I see it I am still short of a paddock stand and the tools for the throttle synch. Tightening stuff I can do.

Will do the oil this week, and will bring some tools back with me from England for the rest. Where do people get paddock stands from?

[TIE_Pilot]

I bought mine mail order from Handy Industries. They were a pretty good deal at about $120 shipped. However I really wish I had a tree stand for the front for fork work.

[pinkyblake]

hi guys, i have a post that tells you the things needed on a first service, on the 1000 its pretty much the same except your sinking throtytle bodies instead of carbs. i do work for ncy yam-ktm now but still do my sv customers at home. 858-668-1704 also ncy has good tire prices, a set of bt 200.00 is there every day price. if you need any info on your sv feel free to e me or call. thanks

[PSV]

Did the oil/filter change yesterday, will have to wait to get the throttle bodies checked.

I can see how some people stripped the threads when replacing the oil filter. Manual says 2 full turns after the gasket contacts, mine was bloody tight after 1 turn.

[dabame]

if i remember right mine wanted to keep turning even after two full turns.... maybe it was the filter or something. it doesnt need to be super tight unless you plan on selling it soon :D . jk knightshade :p

[TIE_Pilot]

I never got mine on more than 1 1/2 turns... and it has not exactly been easy to remove later so I'm sure it's in no danger of coming off.

[jhendrix]

Hello- New member here. I just bought a new(blue) naked sv650 and have fell in love with the thing. I also have a 1990 gsxr 750 that i have stuffed an 1127 motor in. That bike has been totally apart and everything has been gone through/polished/rebuilt yadda yadda ect ect. Anyway, i am getting tired of how a couple of the dealers around here treat me like i have no idea how bikes are put together and really don't want some kid who works part time touching my bike(for some pretty good shop rates) Can i do my own 600 mile service if i document everything for warranty reasons or do i have to pay these dipshits to do it? Thanks much

[GMAN]

Originally posted by jhendrix
Can i do my own 600 mile service if i document everything for warranty reasons or do i have to pay these dipshits to do it? Thanks much

You don't have to pay anyone to do the 600 mile service. The manual will always recommend that you bring your bike to an authorized dealer, but that's just typical legal mumbo jumbo to scare away wannabe shadetree mechanics.

The 600 mile service really only entails an oil change and inspecting and tightening chassis bolts. Documenting your work and saving your receipts is recommended.

[motoyz]

My new 04 SV650 is approaching its 600th mile. I went to my local Suzuki Dealer and inquired about the first service. The service manager brought down the service book and showed me what was included in the first service. Nothing i cant do myself. I really dont see a need to waste $90.00 when i can follow the manuel myself, changing the oil and filter and checking odds and ends on my bike. Is there any reason i should let the dealer do the service instead of me.

[wadaribaba]

Only one reason: you have too much money to spend !
Do the service yourself. Just be sure to save all the receipts for your records.

[motoyz]

Ok thanks where can i order a oil filter and oil. Dino oil and a decent filter.

[jfremder]

Just do it yourself and save the $$$'s

No majic needed, just common sense.

[newbe]

O.k i got about 400 miles on my bike now and thinking about the 600 mile service. I got a very well stocked tool box so i got no problem to work on the bike. Except it ask to sin'c the throtall bodys. The bike it self feels great and i got no problem riding it after adj the idle speed to about 1,200rpm up from 1,000rpm. How do you sin'c the throtall bodys?? or you never do in the first place??? for the first time i would buy regular oil to make sure my bike breaks in properly and after that it would be amsoil 10-40w. Where is the best place to buy all the part for good qualty and a good price, qualty first. Im located in the west hollywood area and work next to culver city.


Alex

[NiteQwill]

Did you download the service manual?

Throttle... NOT throtall ;)

Don't use synthetic oil, makes the bike shift like crap. Rotella is the way to go if you want your bike to shift like butter.


Tighten bolts, clean chain, blah blah. Pretty straight forward.

Cycle Gear always seems to have good maintenance stuff.

[racinteach]

no real need to synch the bodies yet....unless you feel them cuttin off...I use motul blend in my bike and have for three years now...never had a problem, hot ot cold...alwys shifts and have very rarely had to adjust the clutch... or do much to it...have put rotella in many bikes and they say it works well..did not feel as smooth as mine...but anything is better then the facotry oil....

[newbe]

I have read everything you guys had on here about the 600mile service. The only thing is i remember the sales girl tell me i need to bring my bike is for 600 mile to maintain warranty??????????? Now i do know that for cars as long as you keep invoices to prove you got the parts there is no problem with warranty. How good is suzuki with there warranty??? do they try to get out of it every chance they get??? They reason i ask is cause i heard some stories about warranty problem and kawasaki wont honor it same about yamaha and one with suzuki.. I know my tool box would rival any tool box i seen at the suzuki dealer techs. Yes its stuffed with snap on and mac tools. The bottom line is how good is suzuki about warranty??? Yes i would buy extended warranty before the year is out.


Alex

[NiteQwill]

Originally posted by newbe
I have read everything you guys had on here about the 600mile service. The only thing is i remember the sales girl tell me i need to bring my bike is for 600 mile to maintain warranty??????????? Now i do know that for cars as long as you keep invoices to prove you got the parts there is no problem with warranty. How good is suzuki with there warranty??? do they try to get out of it every chance they get??? They reason i ask is cause i heard some stories about warranty problem and kawasaki wont honor it same about yamaha and one with suzuki.. I know my tool box would rival any tool box i seen at the suzuki dealer techs. Yes its stuffed with snap on and mac tools. The bottom line is how good is suzuki about warranty??? Yes i would buy extended warranty before the year is out.


Alex
The SV is a pretty bulletproof bike plus it is very easy to maintain. I believe the warranty-thing is dealer specific. Just know a "good" dealer and I'm sure they won't give you problems. Like you said, keep all your invoices/receipts.

[Lui05SV650]

I have a new 05 SV 650 with the 5 year unlimited mile Warrante option.

My question is can I do all Services on my Bike and maintain my Warrante?

I plan on buying OEM parts and do every single service when required.

Or must I rely on the Stealer, I mean Dealer?

I have Spoken with a few guys on the forum who tell me the 600 mile service is just a $280. oil service...

I would much rather do the service my self and get me a set of Micheling Pilot Powers for the same $280.

Any imput is welcome.

Regards, Luis.

[Burst]

You can do all the service yourself. Just keep good records. Federal Law for waranties states that a manufacturer cannot require you to have your service or repair done at any specific shop. They can't even require that you use OEM consumables... (filters, hoses etc)

Keep EVERY receipt for the bike, and keep a log with the date and mileage for each oil change/service. Make sure your receipt dates match up with the log dates and they have no reason to dispute any warranty claims.

[ronnie]

Well here I am passed the first 600k on the SV 650 N and after calling a few places within 10 miles of Glendora, CA and getting quotes from $180 to $275, I'd like to roll up my sleeves and perform some basics like I use to on my 125 Honda back in...time.

I am calling you experts to tell me what the manual does not say about oil change..things to be careful with, to be aware of, to pay attention to...you get the picture.

Let me take this opportunity to thank you all for being around. So far I have gotten answers to all my newbie questions and that's what I like a lot about this country and the bikers in particular: a great sense of community. Keep up the good work!

[NiteQwill]

Hey, congrat on the..... breakin... ;)

Did you download the service manual that is available?

Basically what I did was torque the bolts down to spec, clean and oil chain, new oil and filter, checked tires (as you should before every ride), adjusted my throttle, brakes, clutch if needed, and inspect all fluid levels. Pretty easy stuff.

[ronnie]

Thanks;-) Sounds like a good start. A decent Torque Wrench is on my list. I do have downloaded the service manual from here at socalsvrider. Does the oil filter really need to be replaced. 600k doesn't seem much... Any preferred oil type and brand?

[Mohawk]

Probably doesn't need it, but some folks like myself change it everytime I change the oil.

[soulofadra6o]

did you say 600k maintence? as in 600,000??

[agirls]

Originally posted by soulofadra6o
did you say 600k maintence? as in 600,000??

Ha, I thought the same thing! Then I looked at the year ('05) and said no way. Then I thought maybe km, but no, he's in CA. So, what are you referring to (k)?

[Peiell]

I guessing you somehow didn't pile on 600,000 miles on an 05 SV. But if that's true, I think I know why you're a little unsatisfied with the stock SV seat. :p

Regarding the oil question, the search function on the website is a great utility and can be used to answer this sort of basic question. However, I'll save you the trouble and summarize. The general consensus is that Shell Rotella T SYNTHETIC oil (comes in blue gallon jug) is the best bang for your buck. It gives you buttersmooth shifts and it's fairly inexpensive. It can be difficult to find, but all Walmarts seem to carry it. Some have said Pepboys or Autozone also carry it. My local shops do not. So if you call one of these local shops, make sure they look for the BLUE jug. There's a non-synthetic Shell Rotella T which makes things kinda confusing.

[ronnie]

Originally posted by soulofadra6o
did you say 600k maintence? as in 600,000??

Keep making the same mistake. Apologies;-)
600 little miles only!

So...synthetic or not synthetic, that is the Q

[Mohawk]

do you even need to service it before 3000 miles? I didn't know they even had a 600 mile service.....i thought you meant 6000 mile.

[ronnie]

At least oil change, that can't hurt. The other concern is with the warranty...

[newbe]

o.k i done my 600 mile service by the book. The tran's does feel better it took me maybe one and a half hours and thats cause i took my time and checked everything i could. What make it very easy for me was that i got a BIG tool box full of snap on tools:D .
On top of that i also instaled a GIVI 755 shield which looks good and makes a diffrence at high speed. Now i feel the wind only at the top of my helmet. YEA i LOVE this bike.:D :D :D :D


Alex

[phlosar]

Any suggestions for where to bring my baby for the first tune-up -- sv650s? I want to get it done by a shop, for the documentation and to preclude possible warranty hassles down the road (a remote possibility for this bike). I have checked out the shops list.

I would really like a shop with Saturday service hours, so I could either drop the bike or wait with it. I live in the Silver Lake area of Los Angeles.

Good experiences with knowledgeable technicians? Recent experience would be really helpful. I do not mind travelling a bit, but a weekday drop-off would have to be close by.

[Kurt'sSV]

One of the dudes who runs this shop posts on this board, Andy Palmer (since413). Also one of the fast SV guys at WSMC. If I had to take my bike to a shop for something, it'd be here:

West Coast GP Cycles
4011 Wadsworth Avenue
Los Angeles CA 90011
Phone (323) 365 4600

Crago Racing in Van Nayes also knows their shit. If I had to take my bike to someone, and Andy's place didn't exist, I'd take it there.

[since413]

Well, I was going to wait till the ink dried on the contract, But with an introduction like that I will spill the beans...

Pete, Alex and I are going to be the new owners of the shop formerly known as Cycle Products West at 11900 Pico Blvd, Los Angeles.:D

Call me at (310) 968-2639 to set up any service you need, and let me know what kind of things you all want in a shop, cause there is very little there to start with.

I am currently there while the previous owner shows me where everything is, but I am servicing all my customers there as well.

Thanks for the good word Kurt!:cool:

[SVSRyder]

LA Cycle Sports just rocks man... I highly recommend them.

[acer66]

Originally posted by since413
Well, I was going to wait till the ink dried on the contract, But with an introduction like that I will spill the beans...

Pete, Alex and I are going to be the new owners of the shop formerly known as Cycle Products West at 11900 Pico Blvd, Los Angeles.:D

Call me at (310) 968-2639 to set up any service you need, and let me know what kind of things you all want in a shop, cause there is very little there to start with.

I am currently there while the previous owner shows me where everything is, but I am servicing all my customers there as well.

Thanks for the good word Kurt!:cool:

congrats

ps i still need my tire fixed Andy :)

[rwalterk]

If you are stuck on having a dealer do the work, I and a few others have had good experiences at North Hollywood Honda/Suzuki/Yamaha. I've had two services done there (600 and 4000 miles). No appointment necessary; just drop the bike off when they open (9AM) and you'll be the first out.

[Tillers_Rule]

600 mile tune up??

I just turned 47,000 miles, have yet to pay for a "tune up"

Just change the oil and spark plugs when thye need it and you'll be fine.

[soulofadra6o]

all they do for a 600 mile service is the tune up..i doubt any bolts need to be torqued down but eh if you wanna keep to your warranty

[Thudds]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
Crago Racing in Van Nayes also knows their shit. If I had to take my bike to someone, and Andy's place didn't exist, I'd take it there.

I second Crago! Great people, very honest about your options.

[Nighttrain]

Originally posted by since413
Well, I was going to wait till the ink dried on the contract, But with an introduction like that I will spill the beans...

Pete, Alex and I are going to be the new owners of the shop formerly known as Cycle Products West at 11900 Pico Blvd, Los Angeles.:D

Call me at (310) 968-2639 to set up any service you need, and let me know what kind of things you all want in a shop, cause there is very little there to start with.

I am currently there while the previous owner shows me where everything is, but I am servicing all my customers there as well.

Thanks for the good word Kurt!:cool:

Good luck to you. Wow, you guys are right around the corner from my work. I am on Ocean Park near 28th. Cheers. :D

I had my 600 mile service done at Thousand Oaks SUzuki about 1 month ago. I HIGHLY recommend them. Extremely professional and do work while you wait with appointment. The price was reasonable.

You do not need to take your bike to the shop for the 600 mile service. You can do it yourself but the main thing is the oil change. If you keep the receipts and do it yourself, you should be good.

[SVNerd]

You should really try to do this yourself ! Its not difficult, and there's lots of good folks on this site willing to help you through it.

SCREW the dealer !

[mojo mofo]

Originally posted by Tillers_Rule
600 mile tune up??

I just turned 47,000 miles, have yet to pay for a "tune up"

Just change the oil and spark plugs when thye need it and you'll be fine.

This from the guy who hardly sees soap and water :p

[kabolhasani]

If I remember right the manual suggest checking valve clearance along with the simple stuff. This would be the only reason I would take it in... but the question is do any dealers even really do that? and is it necesary?

[since413]

If you have them checked and everything is OK, maybe it wasn't necessary. However if after breakin you check them and they are not OK, do you want to run 10k or 12k on valves/seats that are out of spec. There have been a lot of posts that valves almost never need to be adjusted and when you consider the cost of the service, to go in and find everything in spec, it feels like wasted money. But the fact is, with normal wear, valves do need to be adjusted and not doing it can ruin a motor. The factory has recommendations, shops have recommendations, boards like this give personal testimony, it comes down to peace of mind, and knowing that when a good mechanic goes all the way to your valves, he (or she) has checked everything else on the way, like vaccum hoses, fuel lines, brake fluid, chain, electrical connections, air fliter, cam chain tension, signs of proper cam and bucket wear, and many, many more details the average bike owner may never consider or have the experience to recognize. It is very rewarding to give a customers bike back running perfect after a service knowing that everything is done right, even if no shims were adjusted.

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by since413
It is very rewarding to give a customers bike back running perfect after a service knowing that everything is done right, even if no shims were adjusted.

Well yeah, for you, because you get a big fat check for that service. :p

[since413]

Well there is that:o

[greginva]

I just got an '04 sv last week, and am wondering what sort of maintance do i have to do, and how often ie chain lube and what not. Also what do the shops do for the first 600-900 mile service
thanks

[NiteQwill]

Originally posted by greginva
I just got an '04 sv last week, and am wondering what sort of maintance do i have to do, and how often ie chain lube and what not. Also what do the shops do for the first 600-900 mile service
thanks
Read your manual, it explains everything and the meaning of life. :D

[Iceburg98]

Hello,

Finally got the bike broken in and so it's time for it's 600m service.

I don't trust any of the dealers in my area and was thinking of taking it over to BuyMoto since they're only a few exits away from me.

Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their service dept.? I've only talked to their sales people and they all seem alright, but that doesn't really say anything about the people wrenching away in the back.

Let me know what you think, or if there's a better place in SD to take it.

Thanks

[Tillers_Rule]

Change the oil yourself and your good to go for the 600 mile 'service'.

[MotoDave]

sure wouldn't hurt to also go through the bike, make sure everything is tight, adjust cables and chain, they will tend to stretch a bit when the bike is new.

[Iceburg98]

Yeah - I know about the cable/chain stetch and bolt tightening...

That's why I'd prefer to take it to a professional rather than just change the oil myself.

I could probably manage to change the oil, and I have a manual that tells you how to check the chain and everyhing, but I don't know if I would trust myself to do it right :p

[greginva]

Alright, ichecked in the manual and it said only the CA models need the sync at 600 miles so i am defenitly going to do it myself (i live in virginia). How out of sync are they at 600 should i bother doing it any way? also the manual doesnt have checking the valve adjustment at 600 should i?

Thanks

[erikgeoff]

easy easy easy. i just did it hear in the garage. it took an hour and had local guy check the synch for 45$. dealer wanted 200$+. down with dealers. ('cept i near stole the bike from them hahahahaha...)

it is. do it yourself. dealer wanted to do a throttle body synch so i got a small-shop to do that for me....$45.

[Rsimpson]

I've heard from a few people that Hahm Motorsport in Newport had bad service. I took my bike in last night at 6pm, for its 600 mile service and got a call back today at noon saying it was done. $146 was the damage.

I'm pretty happy with them so far. We'll see how it goes.