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Toad
Thu 9/11/03, 12:00PM
http://www.2wf.com/articles/news/982CEB99-35D7-4790-95DB-EBD9E3907E4F.asp

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WILLOW SPRINGS RACEWAY OPENS "HORSE THIEF MILE"
Designed with Help from Racing Veterans Keith Code, Rod Millen, & Eddie Lawson, One-mile Paved Course Emulates Challenge of Winding Mountain Highway

Featuring numerous elevation changes, tight turns, and scenic panoramic views, Willow Springs Raceway's new one-mile course, Horse Thief Mile, (AKA "The Mile"), was created to let drivers experience the physical and visual challenges of a winding mountain road.

"I noticed there was nowhere to learn how to negotiate the twists you might encounter riding up a mountain course, so I decided to create a track that emulated a mountain highway," said the track's chief designer, Willow Springs Raceway owner Bill Huth.

With its demanding sharp corners, sweeping crests, and 11 degree rises, Huth designed "The Mile" in consultation with racing veterans Keith Code, Rod Millen, and Eddie Lawson.

"The Mile is unique," said motorcycle cornering instructor and California Superbike School founder, Code. "It's probably got more elevation changes in its one mile than any other circuit around - and it's got an aspect of canyon riding that other tracks don't have. Because you find yourself riding into crested corners where you really can't see the other side, the course also presents some very good visual challenges. The only level section of the course is a 500 foot stretch at the start/finish line."

To ensure the course had the necessary elements to accommodate drivers on four wheels, Huth called upon champion off-road racer Rod Millen. Huth said one of Millen's major contributions was ensuring the course had a straight segment long enough to give drivers a sufficient passing opportunity.

"The Mile adds variety to the whole Willow Springs complex," said Millen. "It's a different type of course, demanding different skills of the rider or driver. I like that, because from a testing standpoint, you always like something new and challenging and demanding because it helps you develop a better machine."

Huth also obtained advice on the course layout from multi-time motorcycle champion-turned Cart racer Eddie Lawson. "On this track you can overdo the speed pretty easily and riders will learn that," said Huth. "Just like on a paved mountain road, you have to use judgment on how fast you can go."

Huth said The Mile will be used for all types of vehicle racing, but predicts the course will become best known as a place to learn how to control a bike or car on tight corners.

Huth said, despite the winding layout, there are sections of the track where riders can jump on the gas - if they're smart. "The third turn of The Mile was built to duplicate a turn located up on Highway 101 running along Oregon's Gold Coast. You'll go down into a dip and then swing around, but you can get on the gas just as hard as you want when you get near the bottom because the down-force won't let you slide away. It's a great turn," said Huth.

"I think The Mile is similar to a road rally course in that it winds, going up and down hills -- kind of an all-terrain road course," said track manager Stephanie Huth, who predicts the track will become a favorite with riding schools.

"The track is very scenic and photogenic, and we're purposely not allowing any garish signage," said manager Huth. "We'd like to establish The Mile as a place where magazine and film crews can come to shoot beautiful footage of vehicles and their drivers in action."
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1 mile, a LOT of turns. Streets aint got nothin on THIS.

I wanna go do it on a YSR!!!!

-- James

Kurt'sSV
Thu 9/11/03, 12:30PM
I've heard about this track. Looks pretty neat. That little bike of Guzzigirl's would be perfect.

bwarbiany
Thu 9/11/03, 12:40PM
I wanna go... That looks fun as hell...

Setter32
Thu 9/11/03, 12:41PM
.....saw this track a couple of weeks ago...........when I was at the big track....

....yeah..........it looks to be way tighter than the streets........

.....should be a real fun track for the SV.........

.....I wouldn't mind doin a track day on that.......



:D

oren
Thu 9/11/03, 3:33PM
Keith Code is a racing veteran...

ummm....

Not really. :)

Toad
Thu 9/11/03, 3:43PM
Originally posted by oren
Keith Code is a racing veteran...

ummm....

Not really. :)

Maybe not on the level of Lawson or Pridomre or someone, but untill I've got a factory superbike ride (like he did with Kawasaki in the 80's) I'm not exactly gonna call him an amature.
-Kurt seconds that

-- James

zzzwillzzz
Thu 9/11/03, 4:06PM
Originally posted by Toad
Maybe not on the level of Lawson or Pridomre or someone, but untill I've got a factory superbike ride (like he did with Kawasaki in the 80's) I'm not exactly gonna call him an amature.
-Kurt seconds that

-- James

and then in the '90s he raced in the AMA 250 GP class sponsored by DIANETICS:-s

Golden_Eternity
Thu 9/11/03, 4:47PM
If scientologists want to sponsor me, I'll take it.

zzzwillzzz
Thu 9/11/03, 4:48PM
he's one of them

Golden_Eternity
Thu 9/11/03, 4:52PM
Then do you think he'll sponsor me?

Guzzigirl2000
Thu 9/11/03, 6:14PM
holy cow does that cool!!!

oren
Thu 9/11/03, 6:32PM
Oops, just checked Keith's biography and saw he did ride superbike in the late 70s. I didn't realize that, so I admit I was wrong.

I always just think that guy is a complete nutcase with the scientology and his wheelie school.

I'll never forget one of his current instructors, Stoney Landers, placing on the podium at Willow Springs. He said, "I'd like to thank L Ron Hubbard", and it got really silent.

zzzwillzzz
Thu 9/11/03, 7:52PM
code's personal website
scary (http://home.scientologist.org/keithc/)

cracked lid
Thu 9/11/03, 8:30PM
Orgasmic looking track. All the fun of the canyons, without the rock walls, cliff drop offs, or other drivers. Sign me up!

Golden_Eternity
Thu 9/11/03, 8:33PM
I'm there... someone needs to buy me a bike, though.

Dr. D
Fri 9/12/03, 7:24AM
Great, yet another reason to move to the west coast. Not only do you have real mountain roads, you also have to build a track that is like a real mountain road, assholes:D

bwarbiany
Fri 9/12/03, 8:14AM
Originally posted by Dr. D
Great, yet another reason to move to the west coast. Not only do you have real mountain roads, you also have to build a track that is like a real mountain road, assholes:D

Yeah, but we don't have that chicane you guys have up on Lake Shore Drive... That's good for some knee-down action, right? Just try not to go 160 through the rest of it, I hear the cops don't like that :D

Dr. D
Fri 9/12/03, 1:27PM
I never go fast through there, dirty as hell. 20 minutes north is a different story, excellent corners if you can stomach the tar strips, cracks, potholes, manhole covers and gravel. Not a lot of police, not like they can keep up anyway.

Toad
Fri 9/12/03, 1:55PM
Originally posted by Dr. D
I never go fast through there, dirty as hell. 20 minutes north is a different story, excellent corners if you can stomach the tar strips, cracks, potholes, manhole covers and gravel. Not a lot of police, not like they can keep up anyway.

Sounds like the Crest, except add alot of cops.

-- James

Tillers_Rule
Fri 9/19/03, 4:57PM
wow, that track looks badass

calversv
Fri 11/21/03, 10:40AM
a buddy who races willow spent the day with MTC on Streets and Horse Thief and here's what he had to say:

On Wednesday, I went to a track day with www.mtctrackday.com They had a $150 special where we could run both the streets of willow and horse thief mile. I am soooooo glad I took the day off. The weather was a perfect 70 degrees, and there was just a gentle breeze all day. The best thing was that there was only maybe 20 riders total, for both of the tracks.

I hadn't been on the streets of willow since they repaved it, but it is *a lot* better now. In addition to the fresh black top, they made the track wider on turn 4, and also the last sharp left hander before the skidpad.

Horse thief mile was fun too. At first, I really did not like it... mainly because of the scary blind turns. The track is extremely tight... my fzr400 is very nimble, but the narrow powerband was difficult to deal with. Eventually though, I began to enjoy it a little more when I followed one of the MTC instructors around that knew some faster/smoother lines.

I also had a chance to swap bikes with other riders... an R1, a cbr F4, a ducati monster, and an sv650. But the highlight of the day was riding Kelly Baker's 1981 yamaha SR500 race bike. That little single was awesome... I dunno how the heck everyone else races those shaky things, but there is something inherently cool about skinny tires, sh*t brakes, monster torque, numb hands, and blurry vision! I think it'd be fun to race one of those... hmmmmm.... maybe next season???

-Alfred

Iyindo
Fri 11/21/03, 11:31AM
That track looks SO great! I'd prolly kill myself, but I'd love to try it! At my usual snail's pace, of course. :sad: