Movie: Matrix Revolutions

[Monte]

Saw it. It was pretty good!

Better pacing than the second. No motorcycle stunts, though.

There was a nipple twisting scene, though. That was interesting.

[anniebeehere]

Originally posted by MrPython
Saw it. It was pretty good!

Better pacing than the second. No motorcycle stunts, though.

There was a nipple twisting scene, though. That was interesting.

Can't wait! My roommate got in line (with tix) at 11am to see the 1pm show in Hollywood... she works for the State so she saw it on our dime...now if Disney would just pay me to see movies instead of chaining me to the damn chair!

[wadaribaba]

Ok, so go ahead and spoil it for us: how does it end ? :D

[Iyindo]

not having seen it, I suspect that human prevail and neo gets the girl. but that's just a guess.

oh yeah... and the million and one agent clones, they all die. :D

Python, how'd I do?

[sandie]

i know how it ends...and i didn't even see it

damn craigslist

[wadaribaba]

I read that a major character dies... just wondering who it is...

[TFK_in_Mass]

I've already...heard of...a bootlegged copy :grin:

Without giving too much away...it blows. Bad.

I found myself not giving a good-god-damn about any of the characters, or the plot.


...And then Keanu Reeves tries to act.

The whole reason the Matrix worked at all is because all Keanu Reeves had to do was look confused. This comes naturally to him.

Save your nine bucks for Kill Bill, Part 2

[sadawson1]

Saw it at 6am yesterday morning. Thought it was awesome, the critics obviosly do't know what they are talking about.

[Golden_Eternity]

I saw it yesterday... had some nifty elements... Shades of dune messiah in there... Seemed rushed, though... They overexplained some minor issues they failed to explain some major ones and I think the bad guys all had to share a single copy of the script 'cause they all sounded the same...

I think, like reloaded, I may have to watch it a couple times, back to back with the others in order to start liking it.

Left me wondering when animatrix 2 is gonna be out to sew up all the loose ends.

[Monte]

Originally posted by Golden_Eternity
I saw it yesterday... had some nifty elements... Shades of dune messiah in there... Seemed rushed, though... They overexplained some minor issues they failed to explain some major ones and I think the bad guys all had to share a single copy of the script 'cause they all sounded the same...

I think, like reloaded, I may have to watch it a couple times, back to back with the others in order to start liking it.

Left me wondering when animatrix 2 is gonna be out to sew up all the loose ends.
Animatrix 2, huh? Is that something they're really working on? Maybe that's why some of the stuff didn't make much sense. Still, I enjoyed it.

[Monte]

Originally posted by Iyindo
not having seen it, I suspect that human prevail and neo gets the girl. but that's just a guess.

oh yeah... and the million and one agent clones, they all die. :D

Python, how'd I do?
Everybody dies in the end. Hope that didn't spoil the ending for anyone.

[BluBallz]

more confused than when i walked into the theatre!!! but loved every second of it, worth the 9 bucks definetly, and i'll see it again!

[cracked lid]

I will not spend $10.00 until I know if it sucks. I'll still probably see it even if it sucks, but I like to know what I'm getting into.

[LaPiñaLoca]

better than 2, not the best ending to what started out as such a wonderful and interesting story. CGI is better in this one. No rave scenes or nipples in #3 :D Given all of that, i think it was still worth 10 bucks.

That's the short version.

aaron

[Monte]

Originally posted by LaPiñaLoca
No rave scenes or nipples in #3
You must have missed the nipple twisting going on in the club at the beginning. Seriously.

I really enjoyed the movie. Some people hated it, though.

[Rudeboy]

I think that the visual "wow" factor was nothing short of astouding. There were so many cool things to look at, probably more than any other movie I've seen... and most of it is original (as far as I know.)

Anyone who bashes it, I think is nuts.. but it does seem to be a cult flick.. I could think of many a' people who wouldn't like it. But if you like it, it's awesome..

ain't the first... but ain't the second either! I give it the proverbial b- even though I really liked it... criticizing seems to have so little with what you like nowadays... hmm. I'm boycotting english class beyond the eigth grade. that'll take care of that.

[Jarasco]

Glad I only paid for a matinee...

Worth seeing - yes*
Worth seeing in theater - no
Worth renting - maybe if you pitch in with some friends
Worth standing in line days in advanced - F#@% no

*but only because everyone else and their 7 year old has seen it otherwise you'd be confused when you emerged into the world from your cave.

I could go on for a while about particular aspects that I disliked, but really, I have something more important to complain about: The movie is rated R. I believe that means restricted, right? No one under 17 can buy a ticket, without an adult. I'm assuming there is some reason for that, adult themes, language, violence, etc. So why were there so many 10 year olds running around the theater?

I'm not a prude (ok, I lie) and I'm not all that into keeping things from kids, but ya know what, a 10 year old isn't going to be able to comprehend the complexities of the plot and the themes questioning reality so all they see is a bad actor kicking the sht out of everyone. That's all they take away from the movie...but then again, that's what half of the adult viewers take away to. :p

[/rant]

[stough]

.....

I was pretty speechless.

I also saw a matinee, and I recommend that if you want to see it on the big screen (and that's the way it'll be best), don't pay full price.

I enjoyed it. It was beautiful to watch. I could fit the whole plot in a shot glass with an ounce of tequila. And that would improve it significantly; that and a lime, some salt, and another shot...

I like the Matrix and I get it, but there was so little actually happening in this movie. After, what, 2.25 hours in the theater, I saw one TV-show's-worth of plot. The battle scenes were so big, awesome, and pretty as to be meaningless. And, OMG, they asked Keanu to act! Either the actress playing Trinity can't act either, or the director asked her not to show up Keanu! Also, I don't need Hollywood-ending-pabulum, but the end, in fact all of the plot developments in Revolutions, was totally unsatisfying.

Don't get me wrong, I'll probably get it on DVD. I'll watch it a few more times. I'll concentrate all of my intellect on bending the twisted fragments of plot into a rationalized whole. Hell, that's what I did with the first movie, and it was fun. That's what I had to do with the second movie, and it was OK. However, Revolutions, for whatever reason, just left me shaking my head.

Oh, and I want to shake the hand of the guy that got that water-explosion-sheeting-thingy effect down (I mean he really got it down). Then I want to smack him.
:D

Later,
Tim.

[Guzzigirl2000]

saw it last night
we enjoyed it
I was way into
the cheesy line and duplicate of special efforts/moves weren't impressive but it made it more classic Matrix
the machine battle was intense but an adjustment since it was more about the machines vs. people
another diff was that this was more of an ensemble cast staring vs. just 2 or 3 character

it was cool
go see it at the theater, maintee or whatever

[CaliSVs]

machine battle: "ahhhhhh ahhhhhhh...... ahhhhhh..... shooooottttiiiinngggg" It just kept going and going with the same lame stuff. To quote myself after coming out of the movie "that sucked balls." I think that about sums it up.

note: there were some cool effects, and it had some fighting, but that doesn't make a movie good IMO


As far as seeing it in the theater - I would recommend saving the money and downloading it off the internet.

[Noahrob]

I struggled not to scream...

LAME, LAME, LAME...save yourself ten bucks and go sniff some glue..won't kill as many brain cells as this work of crap.

[Padu]

From all the crappy (matrix included) movies I saw lately, Love Actually is the only one worthy of my nine bucks (that I always try to dissolve in seeing more than two movies in a row, cheap bastard). Very funny and entertainment...

[Guzzigirl2000]

what was really funny.. was the trailor for Torque
I was laughing so loud but I couldn't help it
but that's another thread

Love Actually looks good too, I dig Hugh Grant


always looking for the positive,
GG

[Jarasco]

I saw that trailer too... did they have to put knobbies on those bikes to get them to go off-road like that?

[Golden_Eternity]

Originally posted by jarasco
I saw that trailer too... did they have to put knobbies on those bikes to get them to go off-road like that?

Ask Poi; he was there.

http://www.socalsvriders.com/albums/albun22/onbike.sized.jpg

[Golden_Eternity]

Corporate Mofo has an analysis of Revolutions up...

http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/031109matrix.htm

Unlike his first review, I wasn't rolling my eyes the entire time (which made it very difficult to read)...

[sandie]

i thought it was fun...better than 2 for sure
you should definately see it on big screen...so if you have a big screen TV that would work too

[Rocko]

for all of you who say this movie sucks...

what movies do you like?

what did you think of:

Terminator

Starship Troopers

Scarface

Moulin Rouge

Just trying to figure you out...

[Iyindo]

Saw Revolutions last night too. I walked out really disappointed. The first half was incredible. I mean, yeah... it was action with minimal plot... but it was cool action to watch, at least. And there weren't the fit-all-of-philosophy-into-2-minutes-with-a-frenchman conversations that annoyed the shit out of me in the second one.

However, having said that... the last part of the movie was WHOLLY unsatisfying. I didn't think it did a good job of resolving things at all, there were significant amounts of cheese (which isn't a BAD thing but just got old in this case), and I was left with a general "eh?" reaction. I mean, what the hell? with that final conversation between the oracle & the architect?

argh... i was just frustrated. I mean, it could've been SO good. The whole trilogy could have been so good. But instead, the first Matrix really stands out... and the second two view like parasitic appendages.

[TFK_in_Mass]

Terminators 1 & 2 were awesome. I am repressing 3

Starship Troopers was stupid, but fun to watch, because it didn't have any pretensions about being a smart movie.

Scarface is one of the better gangster films ever made, but suffers from overexposure.

Moulin Rouge was a throwaway muscial that I didn't enjoy.


The third matrix'es (matrices?) just tried too hard and ended up being a bizarre self-parody. The pop-philosophies it spouted appeal to the college freshman who write papers on it, and to the disenfranchised high-schoolers who shoot their parents and claim that as a defense.

I'd just like to forget the two sequels even existed and go back to 2002 when we were all giddy with the prospect of more Matrix mind-bending.

[dubss]

-special affects: great but not as clever as the first 2
-big battle scene visual: amazing
-plot: a pretentios/obvios/ combination of major religions(mostly christianity and buddhism)
-dialogue: horrible
-acting: even worse
-covering up the fact that the actress that originaly played the oracle died before the third movie was complete: an obvios afterthought
-times the phrase "you know why" was spoken: ridiculous
-overall(all this is opnion): i demand my time and money back... horrible.

[Rocko]

hmmm...

sounds like i'll trust your judgement, TFK...altough i never bothered to see moulin rouge.

I think i'm easier to please than most...

[tmonroe]

Sunday, I watched Matrix 1 and Matrix 2 on my bigscreen at home, then went to theatre to watch Revolutions.

The Good:

The plot of Matrix 3 is consistant with the direction that 1 and 2 were going (personally, I think 2 went in a different direction than 1 (which I really didn't like) , but there is consistancy from 1 to 2 to 3.)

Some good fight scenes. some of them more of the same, some new stuff as well. Special effects are marginally better than 2, but not nearly as revolutionary as 1.

The Bad:

Some scenes dragged on forever. I don't want to spoil anything, but one of the death scenes was so long, I started thinking "die already, will you?".

For me, too much emotion. Almost like there was a "focus group" that tried to get a wider audience, and decided to put more romantic sentiment in the movie.

The Ugly:

I'm sorry, but you can't just hire a new actor, and then say "something happened, and she lost part of herself, and that's why she's different". Its like in Red Dwarf where Kryton returns as a different actor plaing the same robot.

The movie left more holes than it filled. The end of the movie seems improbable at best. Doesn't really explain anything, just basically people excited about the war being over.

I think they bent over backwards to leave room for another sequel - at the expense of the plot of the movie.

Overall, worth seeing. Disappointing in many respects. Nothing revolutionary about the movie (as there was in 1). I think I could have come up with a more compelling plot. A few scenes were gems, and just about make the move. Long. Scratch that - very long. Missing some explanations. On a scale of 1-10, I'd rate 1 as a solid 9. 2 as a 6.5, and 3 as 7.5.

[sandie]

that's exactly what i was going to say ;)


very well put...kudos tmonroe

i so wished i had thought to watch 1 and 2 before going to see 3...duh

yeah, and that whole oracle thing...i was thinking it would have been fine if they just acted like she was the same person...like they do in soap operas when someone is out sick for the day :P

[TFK_in_Mass]

Without spoiling it for the two of you who haven't yet seen it, but plan on it...

Keanu Reeves cannot act for beans. The "death" scene in the third matrix is absolutely absurd.

Reeves trying to act anguished is like Vincent Price doing an hilarious send-up of Sir Laurence Olivier.

Having seen all three now, I can safely say

There's no effin' way that was meant to be a trilogy from the beginning. That was Hollywood schyster moneymakin' at it's finest.

The only way they could have made the ending lamer is if they added a giant:

The End...?:mad:

[sandie]

TFK...you don't think it was fun to watch AT ALL!?!?!?!

i mean, poor acting and story lines aside...i thought it was a pretty fun movie

my favorite scene, when mrs. will smith's character was driving thru the mechanical lines, the look on morpheos' face! i love lawrence...can someone tell me why he did biker boyz...ugh

[dubss]

haha... yeah i actualy yelled out "oh god die already!!!" and people around were cracking up. i think the most accurate critisizm is that it was not revolutionary like the first one. nothign new as far as filmaking is concerned.

[illustr8dman]

I saw it tonight on Imax format. The screen was so big I wasn't distracted by all the extra shit going on like in 2. I had to consentrate on the focal points. That and I had a couple of shots before I saw it. Very enjoyable experience. I wouldn't recomend seeing it unless you are a fan of the orriginal. It does tie up some loose ends. A great christian biblical parody. There is a direct line of thought from the first film to the third, but I think they concentrated on the end so much they sacrificed the middle. There was no meat to either sequel...... just an ending to three. I thought it would have been more menacing/interesting if we found out that the reason Neo took out the sentinals in the second film was because he realized that the world of machines and zion was an illusion as well. That he was the first Neo to realize the falicy and thus began a true revolution. But the writers didn't want to go there so, oh well.

[PoopinClumpin]

I'm not too into IMAX-ified movies that were not planned to be exclusively 700mm film during cinematography. Mainly for the exact reasons you just talked about. IMAX is great for "wrap-around" visuals and really kickass aerial shots. But like you said, on the cinema screen they can get away with jump-cuts in and out of scenes. But if you ever watch a real IMAX film such as Antarctica, Galapagos, or Space Station you see that the camera NEVER moves more than a few degrees per second. This actually enhances that "I'm going to puke" feeling you get from not having a point of reference. In the Dock Wall battle scene there is so forking much happening I could hardly even keep track. I can't imagine how awful it would be to watch that on IMAX.

My thoughts on the movie itself (more ~spoilers~):I'm not a Matrix fanatic but I know a few who are. Even they couldn't help but laugh at the ridiculously prolonged death scene of a major character.
I'm really glad they didn't go down the matrix-within-a-matrix route; it would have been a total copout. And even if you didn't like/agree with/appreciate the "deus ex machina" ending, you have to admit that it was appropriate in the context of the last 2 movies if not the first.
Like others have been saying, this trilogy was obvously not a trilogy from the start.

I recommend seeing Dark City if you didn't "get" anything out of The Matrix (as a trilogy). Dark City asks a lot of the same philosophical questions that Matrix did, but it might offer more answers. And it has Jennifer Connelly.

[GsxrGregor]

I was disappointed. Perhaps I went in with the intention of being spoon-fed some sort of closure to the Matrix universe. When I walked out of the movie however, I felt like I had more questions than I did answers regarding everyone's fate.

I guess I'll just have to wait until Return of the King opens to see how a movie Trilogy should really end :D

[Golden_Eternity]

Originally posted by illustr8dman
I thought it would have been more menacing/interesting if we found out that the reason Neo took out the sentinals in the second film was because he realized that the world of machines and zion was an illusion as well. That he was the first Neo to realize the falicy and thus began a true revolution. But the writers didn't want to go there so, oh well.

Yes! When I walked out of Reloaded, that's exactly what I was expecting, but instead they turn it into this... whatever it was... I guess they call it an explanation, but I sure don't.

[Golden_Eternity]

Originally posted by PoopinClumpin
I recommend seeing Dark City if you didn't "get" anything out of The Matrix (as a trilogy). Dark City asks a lot of the same philosophical questions that Matrix did, but it might offer more answers. And it has Jennifer Connelly.

13th Floor is also along those lines... But it doesn't have Jennifer Connelly or Carrie Anne Moss in leather, so in that respect its the lesser of the three.

[TFK_in_Mass]

I'm sorry Sandie, but I am a depressed optimist, meaning I always go in giving the benefit of doubt and always end up getting disappointed.

I had told myself going in that Reloaded was purposefully made ridiculously obtuse so that the genius revelation at the end was that much more mind-blowing.

I am trying but I having a difficult time of coming up with any redeeming quality for that movie. (I don't think I'm being overly harsh either.)

At its very best, the movie was merely unoriginal.

[Elvis]

I almost walked out on the 3rd Matrix, but I knew there were special effects coming. The first hour is endless mindless drama, if you call it drama. Just the fact alone that no one said "cut, redo this shot" when Keanau said in the train station "Yes, no, I don't know" with no feeling at all blew my mind. I want to tell people they have to see it, but I don't want the makers of this 3rd movie to make any money. Idiots!

[Iyindo]

Originally posted by glsvs2002
I guess I'll just have to wait until Return of the King opens to see how a movie Trilogy should really end :D

SO true!

[Rocko]

what is that? the third lord of the blings?

[lost6rrl]

Originally posted by TFK_in_Mass
...but I am a depressed optimist, meaning I always go in giving the benefit of doubt and always end up getting disappointed.


wow...i never knew there was a name for it...
*standing up* Hello, my name is Mikki and I am a depressed optimist *sits down*
Can we start the meeting now? ;)

LOL

[Guzzigirl2000]

I went and saw "Matrix: Sensitive and Sappy" again, so there!!

[TIE_Pilot]

I liked it. It wasn't perfect, but what is? I agree that KR can't act his way out of a paper bag, though. I will probably see it again. I will most likely buy the box set when it comes out on DVD.

[illustr8dman]

That reminds me of something else.... Keanu is a terrific actor as long as he is type cast correctly. The writers failed to realise this. He should have been an emotionally distant male who loved trinity but couldn't figure out how to tell her.

[Rocko]

whoa...hey, easy on the spoilers, guys

[Monte]

Originally posted by Elvis
I almost walked out on the 3rd Matrix, but I knew there were special effects coming. The first hour is endless mindless drama, if you call it drama. Just the fact alone that no one said "cut, redo this shot" when Keanau said in the train station "Yes, no, I don't know" with no feeling at all blew my mind. I want to tell people they have to see it, but I don't want the makers of this 3rd movie to make any money. Idiots!
Wait, it blew your mind that Keanu can't act? Why does it seem like everyone is surprised by this?

[wadaribaba]

I think that the dialogue writers had the easiest jobs on this movie. Most of the time someone would either say "what are they doing?" or "what are you doing?"
(I hope this does not give away too much of the "plot" :D )

[illustr8dman]

Originally posted by wadaribaba
I think that the dialogue writers had the easiest jobs on this movie. Most of the time someone would either say "what are they doing?" or "what are you doing?"
(I hope this does not give away too much of the "plot" :D )

You forgot some of the pivotal dialouge: "You know." "You know what you have to do." and "She told me just what I needed to hear."

So are the W. Bros. Born Agains?

[wadaribaba]

Originally posted by illustr8dman
You forgot some of the pivotal dialouge: "You know." "You know what you have to do." and "She told me just what I needed to hear."


LOL !! Yeah, I forgot about that ! They all knew what they had to do and everything was on a need to know basis. That must have taken years of thought :D

[TFK_in_Mass]

...Without intentionally trying to offend anyone...

One of the great, Humanist, facets of the original was how elements of the movie created parallels to pretty much every faith and philosophy on this earth,

The second movie and especially the third were so obviously New Testament they began to be patronizing bordering on flat-out insulting.

[Monte]

CONTAINS SPOILERS:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3

Funny shit, but I still enjoyed the movie. :P

[wadaribaba]

Originally posted by illustr8dman
You forgot some of the pivotal dialouge: "You know." "You know what you have to do." and "She told me just what I needed to hear."


Another pivotal dialogue: "What do you want?", "Same thing you want"

Originally posted by MrPython
CONTAINS SPOILERS:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3

Funny shit, but I still enjoyed the movie. :P


Thats hilarious !! LOL

[illustr8dman]

Originally posted by TFK_in_Mass

One of the great, Humanist, facets of the original was how elements of the movie created parallels to pretty much every faith and philosophy on this earth,
The second movie and especially the third were so obviously New Testament they began to be patronizing bordering on flat-out insulting.

I agree, although I enjoy religious parodies in film. And this was definately a paordie. Complete witht the Wizard of Oz.

So one thing that's been eating at me is: If the Train Station is in Limbo.... and the conducter built it and is the only one who can take people to and fro.... How did those two Programs and their child get there? Shouldn't there be some way for the programs to get into the station so they can smuggle whatever it is they need to smuggle. And where was their daughter living/born if she wasn't already in the Matrix? Is there a parallel Matrix for Young Progams? Or were all three programs in the Matrix and then hitched a ride with the conductor so that they could wait in the station untill he came to get them so they could hitch a ride Back to the Matrix? Were there any writers hired for this movie? Or did the CGI budget require cuts in most of the developement departments? I want to learn how to copy DVD and use Editing software so I can Trim these 2 films into the slighty long one it was meant to be!

[PasCaTT]

"The second movie and especially the third were so obviously New Testament they began to be patronizing bordering on flat-out insulting."


You hit the nail right on the head as far as I'm concerned. I was actually enjoying the movie for what it was and then it seemed to take a really bad turn. First you have the death scene..kudo's to whoever it was that shouted 'will you die already'. Then it switches to getting beat upside the head w/ the christ bat. I get that Neo was always a bit of a christ figure, but the way they club you over the head w/ it at the end really left a sour taste in my mouth. Heh I went to see The Matrix, not some wacky christian fundie movie damnit!

[Dom]

yep that was my beef with it. And what was up with the dragon ball Z style energy bubbles over and over again. Oh well as a friend of mine said this is a movie that can't stand on it's own. Lotsa potential and they went and messed it all up. On a side not one of the brothers is divorcing his wife right now and trying to prove they came up with the whole idea before the marriage so that he can keep money from her hehe.

[Rudeboy]

holy shnikies....

you guys are all a tough and unbelievalby over critical crowd... has anyone ever made a fucking movie?

god I' love to see you try :p

holy shit.. what woudl you rather spend your seven bucks on... chinese food? :p

yummy.

oh well... what would we all succumb to peer pressure... IT SUCKED? Jeeez loueeez!

I hope that god is a little more lienient (sp?) than ya'll.. I'd hate to burn in eternal hell.. for a few things done sub-perfect.

bitter. bitter. bitter. you guys need some sugar.

[illustr8dman]

Originally posted by Rudeboy

oh well... what would we all succumb to peer pressure... IT SUCKED? Jeeez loueeez!
I hope that god is a little more lienient (sp?) than ya'll.. I'd hate to burn in eternal hell.. for a few things done sub-perfect.

Uh yeah..... it sucked. I'm a fan. I'm buying the DVD when it comes out. I payed $13 to see it on IMAX. I can honestly say that they fucked this one up. I'm fine with it ending the way it did. I'm glad they made a trinity... I mean trilogy. However! They could have done quite a few things better. A little to greedy with the special effects budget. The first film was wonderful with its intimate frames and simple direct composition. With the occasional break of bullet time. The last two movies are actually just one film cut in half with adolescent masabatory fight scenes streched tighter than a Paris Hilton video under the pause button!

In the first movie we learn that Humans can improve on the machines because of our ability to bend or break rules once we understand what the Matrix is. Neo accels at a very rapid pace. In the next two movies he adapts to nothing new in the Matrix. He learns nothing new. He stops growing as a character.

Oh hell I could do this all morning! If you're a fan you have to see it and nothing beats seeing it in theatres. You'll leave thinking it could have been so much better thou. I don't get all the people saying they were confused after seeing it. It's only got 10 pages of dialoge, how hard can it be to follow?

[pinkyblake]

choco cake, choco cake eat to much , make your tummy ache!! i like real type movies, not so far out there, even porn, you see the guy with two gals! i,m thinking every mans dream two women at once? not me, i can barley satisfy one, last thing i need is a fuckin wittness!!

[cracked lid]

Trinity hung on about 2 minutes too long.

Nowhere near as good as the first one. I would have felt let down, but I knew what I was getting into. Only went cause a friend really wanted to see it.

[Guzzigirl2000]

rented reloaded
I missed how it was the conclusion to Reloaded (how quickly I forgot that movie)
i get the connections now
so much more action b/4
Revolutions is soooooo mellow man
the dialogue across the board from keenu in all his movies is classic