Ride idea... Something different, Saturday 10/26

[bwarbiany]

Hey, I was thinking about making a new ride that none of us has really seen (I was on Pashnit today :D )... I figure, based on the various climates, that this would best be done in a few weekends... I.e. after the desert cools off, but before we see snow up north in the mountains...

Something like this (maybe reverse, it's up to you all)...
Ortega east from I-5, meet up with SD folks at the 15.
Continue on Ortega (74), which becomes the Palms to Pines Hwy
Stay on 74, or turn north at Hwy 243 near Idylwild. From here, we can go through Rim of the World Dr, or the roads near the Joshua tree, whatever is closest... This will take us up near Big Bear/Arrowhead...
Then, head east on 138 (or is it 136, or 18) across I-15 to the Crest. Follow this down to Pasadena...

For more info on these roads, go to http://www.pashnit.com

Sound good to anyone? Weekend of the 26th?

Brad

[Kurt'sSV]

That actually sounds really fun. I have a friend coming into town that weekend and we were planning on borrowing my bro's bike to go for a ride on the 26th. I think he would enjoy something like this.

[Punkbrad]

ONly because Brads not coming to Criso Twister night! [-(

[sandie]

i'll bring up the rear :D

[mistermiata13]

Sounds like fun! How long would something like this take?

Aaron

[bwarbiany]

Okay, we'll have to get started early... I'm thinking Saturday the 26th, meet at the start of the Ortega by 8:00 AM... Be across the Ortega to the 15 by about 9-9:15ish in case anyone from down south wants to meet (Gregg, Bill?)... I'll look into getting some decent maps, because from there I don't know if any of us know where we're going...

If anyone's thinking of coming from a little farther north (i.e. Pasadena, Ventura, that area), you're more than welcome to head down to my place on Friday night and crash... I got some comfy Lazy-boy recliners :) Just as long as you're not allergic to cats... Then the end of the ride should be pretty darn close to you...

This sounds like fun... Time to start researching :)

Brad

[bwarbiany]

Aaron, this will probably be an all-day proposition... We'll probably cover some decent (200+) mileage just in twisties...

Brad

[Sasquatch]

Originally posted by bwarbiany
Hey, I was thinking about making a new ride that none of us has really seen (I was on Pashnit today :D )...
Brad

Hmm...

I recall mentioning something like this Wed. night...

Power of Suggestion is COOL!

Count me in (assuming SWMBO is in good shape and hasn't made any plans for us already:D ). Perhaps I should get a gel seat before then, too. My ass is starting to hurt at the mere mention of 200 miles. Or was it the bit about Crisco Twister?

-Jason

[bwarbiany]

Yeah, and Gregg, Bill and I were talking about it last weekend after Palomar... So there! :)

I actually was kinda spurred to do this after reading about Pashnit's trip through Alaska... I'm thinking when the day comes that I have a son, after he's gone through all the hoopla of riding dirt when young, getting his street license, etc... I'm gonna buy two V-Stroms (or the equivalent in 25 years) and go on that trip :)

Okay, I also checked weather for Big Bear, and Big Pines... Looks like Big Bear should be cold enough that people trying to go boating on the lake (or Lake Arrowhead) will be discouraged... Sissy Californians... But also it should be warm enough (especially by the time of day we'd arrive) that we don't have to worry about any of these roads being closed for snow...

Here's the trip, as I see it from looking a lot closer...
Ortega (74) to Palm to Pines Hwy (74 still)
North at Hwy 243 through Idylwild and to Banning. West on 10 until we find whatever heads north...
38 North up to a little east of Big Bear Lake.
18 west until we hit 138, heading through Crestline.
138 across the 15 to Angeles Crest
Angeles Crest to Pasadena
Limp our sorry sore butts home and sleep :)

Brad

[chukiechz]

is this gonna be OK for new riders?

[bwarbiany]

Chuck...
If you're comfortable with a few things, it'll be fine.

1) Freeway riding. You have to get back from Pasadena somehow, right? Plus you'll need to get to the Ortega, and there'll be a little stint on the 10...
2) Long distances. This is going to be a high-mileage ride, compared to most on this board... We're talking at least 200 miles (probably closer to 250-300) of twisties. You need to make sure you've got your mind and body ready for that. I remember when I first started riding, I used to get all kinds of soreness from the riding position. Plus, when you're new, and thinking about simple things like shifting & accelerating & braking, as well as how to tackle the next corner, it can get really mentally taxing.
3) Gonna have to do the 600 mile service before you go... I don't want your engine getting frazzled from extending the service interval too long. That initial service is the most important one you'll ever do, because when you're breaking in an engine, there's all kinds of crap in there. However, a twisty ride is the best way to finish off the break-in process (lots of varying RPM's).

I'll leave it up to you whether you think you're ready. Obviously, you're under no pressure to keep up with any faster riders. We'll wait at all turns/etc to make sure the group stays together. All newbies are welcome. I just want to let you know what you're getting into first :D

Brad

[chukiechz]

hmm, hopefully I'll have hit 600 miles by then. So I guess we'll see when the time gets closer. I've never been on twisties, so I cant say how confident I am on them. I guess I'll see how my riding goes the next few weeks and go from there. Thanks.

[Setter32]

If you guys are going to go on the Ortega.......east of Lake Elsinore............... please go slow and becareful in the populated areas...........

That stretch is notorious for fucked-up dumb shits bubbas...........and dogs...........running across the road..............

The last time I went through that section.............I saw 2 dead dogs...............

........and an individual suddenly ran in front of my bike............. I was probably going about 60 mph.............

.......grabbed the brakes hard............... and someone must have been watchin over me........cause I managed to stop in time......and didn't go down in the process......................and this was when I still had the stock springs and the Mez4s..... :eek: ....

.....and of course........... bubbette went about her bussiness.........like she didn't do anything wrong.............

....good luck.......



:D

[bwarbiany]

Okay, so who's in for this one? 8 AM at the Chevron just off the I-5 at the start of the Ortega? Gregg/Bill, are we meeting you (or anyone else) at the 15 or 215?

Brad

[mistermiata13]

I totally want to go, but I think I'll have to bow out of this one.

I don't know if its psychological or if my bike got tweaked in the fall, but I don't feel too comfortable on it. I keep feeling like the back end is getting squirrely under braking, even when using only the front brake (since the foot of the brake pedal is gone). I've also noticed myself going wider in corners because of my nervousness. I'll have to get the bike checked out this week to see if its just my jitters from the spill.

So yeah, I won't be going this weekend. :sad:

Aaron

[stough]

I'm not sure what's up this weekend, but it sounds really good. Pencil me in and I'll talk it over with my wife. Maybe I can talk her into joining us on her Nighthawk 750. I'd hang back with her, of course. :)

Later,
Tim.

[Kurt'sSV]

Well I'm totally going. I've been looking forward to this ride since you orriginally posted it, Brad. I'll be accompanied by a friend from Kansas on my brother's SVS and I think he'll enjoy seeing the area on the back of a motorcycle.

[Burst]

Bill, what do you think? Wanna go?

[Punkbrad]

what ride, how long is it, where at, what time, how long will it take.. i dont wanna scroll up and read through all that billshut, so cut and paste the original text and email it to me or put it here and ill check it later.. or else i dont wanna go! :p

[bwarbiany]

Brad,
I'm way too lazy to do any of that, so you can just stay home :p

I may have a buddy with an F4 and a friend with a GSXR-1K coming as well...

Brad

[Kurt'sSV]

Originally posted by bwarbiany

I may have a buddy with an F4 and a friend with a GSXR-1K coming as well...

Brad [/B]

No damn it. I won't ride with anyone that isn't on a V-twin. You're friends can't come.

[Punkbrad]

just for that, im gonna pray for 150 degree weather in that forsaken desert par of the 74, and i hope it rains too!! :p :p :p

[bwarbiany]

Originally posted by Kurt'sSV
No damn it. I won't ride with anyone that isn't on a V-twin. You're friends can't come.

Actually, I do wish I could take my fiancee's uncle's brand new VFR-800... I want to try that thing out... And it's a V engine, just not a twin... But I guess I'll just stick with the SV if we only allow twins...

Brad
PS - I'll see if I know any Harley riders to bring instead... Those are V-twins...

[Seventh Trump]

Count me in for this ride! I have done it several times before and it is one of the reasons why we have the best places to ride.

I will be at the Ortega Highway Chevron a little before 8:00am, so look for me there, because I will be the trailing rider during the ride!

[WildBillF1]

Originally posted by Burst
Bill, what do you think? Wanna go?
Sounds like a lot of fun, but I'll have to bow out on this one. That would be too many miles on the 929 torture rack. Maybe next time. I have some helibars on backorder that are to be shipped on 11/15, hopefully the bike will be a little more comfortable after the install.

[linp]

Something like this?

It's at least an 8 hr, 300+ miles ride!
http://www.socalsvriders.com/maps/different.gif
(meet at Chevron instead of Shell!)
MS Streets and Trips 2002 map file (http://www.socalsvriders.com/maps/different.est)

[bwarbiany]

Ooh... I'm getting excited already :D :D :D :D :D

Brad

[Punkbrad]

Dude, thats waaaaaaaayyyy too long..

You guys enjoy, and ill read about all your sore asses that sunday morning!!!


Ride Safely!

Pb.

[Kurt'sSV]

Wow that looks really long. Maybe we'll want to cut some of it short once we get out there.

I put new tires on last weekend, but I will need some tread left for the track day next Tuesday.

[bwarbiany]

If we end up needing to cut it short, we can decide at Banning whether to take the 330 or the 18 up from there, instead of the 38... That'll cut a big chunk out of the trip, but then again, on Pashnit they say that's a really great stretch of road...

The longest I've done is a 450 mile day, with about 200 of it being highway... I was in pain afterwards, but it was worth it... This will be much less highway overall, which helps when you move around in the seat a little into the turns...

I guess to answer Chuck's question from previously though, I think this probably a daunting ride for a newbie... The offer still stands if anyone who's coming from Pasadena or thereabouts wants to crash friday night down at my place, you'll basically already be home at the end of the ride, and won't have to wake up quite as early...

Brad
PS - Punkbrad, if you don't make this ride, I'm officially changing your name to "Punkbrad the pussy"

[Punkbrad]

hey now, thats not nice,

however it is strikingly similar to my old college nickname, but it was "Punkbrad the mad pussy-getter " this was at UNLV though, and thats like shootin fish in a barrel:o

hmm... close though... :-?

for reals though.. thats too far for me to have fun, i mean im sure i'd have tons of fun, but thats a whole day with you rascals, and i only get one day a week to spend time with my fam-bam. so i'll have to check it out, possibly, but my new boots dont come until the 28th damnit! ill have to wear the hikers one last time if i go...

lemme talk to mamita and ill get back to ya.

[Seventh Trump]

Yes, it is a long ride, but well worth it. I am planning on making Banning my turnaround point and doing Big Bear on another day before the snow falls. One ride that needs to be done is Hwy 247 from Big Bear to Lucerne Valley. I drove it once in my car and was awed by it! That is truly a road designed for the SV!

[bwarbiany]

So, we're all good for 8 AM at the Chevron at the start of the Ortega? Gregg, planning on meeting us at the 15 or 215 and the 74 somewhere?

Brad

[Seventh Trump]

Brad,

We should have a good crew on Saturday morning! The long range weather forecast shows temps in the 60s! We might want to meet Gregg at that AM/PM station at the 74/15 junction.

What do you think?

[bwarbiany]

Sounds good to me... Is Gregg coming?

Gregg, you know you want to! You think you can take a day riding without Bill?

Brad

[JMM]

i'm new to the group and have ridden once with dave, kurt, and gregg.

is it still on? where and what time?

thanks.

:)

[bwarbiany]

JMM,
Yeah, it's still on... Are you planning on meeting us at the start of the Ortega (I-5 & Hwy 74)? We'll all be there at 8:00... If not, give us a place to meet you (I-15 & Ortega, or I-215 & Ortega), and we can figure out a time based on where it is...

Brad

[Seventh Trump]

Ok, the weather appears to be cooperating, so we should probably take a roll call for who will be meeting where and when.

I will be at the Ortega Chevron at 8am and will be the slow guy on the red SVS!

[bwarbiany]

Well, I'll definitely be there... I'll be the big guy on the Blue SVS... The slow people will think I'm fast, but the fast people will think I'm slow...

Probably still riding a ways behind Kurt though :(

Brad

[ward]

I'll meet y'all at 8 at ortega,

[Burst]

HOLY SHNIKKIES!!!! That is a LONG-ASS-MOTHERF*CKIN ride.......

You people are insane! I'll meet up for the 74 to Idyllwild to Banning portion of it. I'll ride back with Propheteer from there.

What time will you guys be passing throught the 74/79 intersection? It is about 10-15 minutes east of the 15. There will be an Arco AM/PM on the left, 79 is on the right.

[bwarbiany]

I figure we'll be leaving the Chevron at the start of the Ortega by about 8:15... Should be passing through there at about 9:15-9:30ish, I'd say... Looks like I'll be heading back down to Lake Forest that night too, so this does look like a hell of a long ride...

Sure you don't want to make it up towards Crestline and then ride back down the 15 to your place? It's only another 100+ miles or so :D

Brad

[Burst]

no thanks.... I'll call it quits at Banning. Lots to do this weekend.

-Gregg

[Sasquatch]

I'll see ya'll at the Chevron at 0800. For any of you riding from LA, that's on the RIGHT side of the road!:D

[stough]

I'd love to join you, but my brother is getting into town around noon Saturday. We're going to take my wife's Nighthawk 750 and the SV out and show him what real roads are. :D

He rides an SV back in Michigan, so I know that he'd enjoy meeting the group. If we're really lucky, we could meet up with you in Wrightwood or something and tag along for the Crest.

Brad, do you carry a cell phone? Maybe we could try to coordinate in the late afternoon? Or maybe I should just forget about it and hang out with my bro'.

Later,
Tim.

[bwarbiany]

Yeah... Cell number 949-395-2413...

Only problem is that it's damned near impossible to get service when I'm up in the mountains... But we'll be heading down the crest in the mid-afternoon, I think, so we might see you there :)

Brad

[Punkbrad]

I just got this in my mailbox...

Special weather statement
National Weather Service San Diego ca
620 AM PDT Fri Oct 25 2002

...An early season Pacific storm will affect Southwest California
this afternoon into Saturday...

A low pressure system off the Central California coast is expected to move across Southwest California this afternoon into Saturday.

Periods of light rain are expected to begin in the North late this
afternoon...And spread South over the entire area tonight into
Saturday. The snow level will remain fairly high...Not lower to 7500 feet until Saturday morning.

Preliminary storm precipitation estimates are as follows...

this is for huntington beach,

ride safe...!! wish i could go!

[bwarbiany]

I just checked weather online for Irvine, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Pasadena, and Wrightwood. We might have a little rain tonight in each of those places, but it looks like it'll be clear by tomorrow...

Brad

[Seventh Trump]

Not to be too much of a wimp, but if it is wet tomorrow, then I will passing on the ride. Meeting the pavement once was enough for me, so if its dry, I will be at Chevron. Otherwise, those who do go qualify for official hard core status.

Steve

[bwarbiany]

Alrighty folks... I'm hitting the road for the evening... I hope to see you all bright and early at 8:00 AM at the Chevron... I won't be checking the board at all past this point, so if you need to get in touch with me, call 949-395-2413...

Wet or not, I expect up in the mountains it'll get a little chilly, so dress for it (no JR Phoenix tomorrow!)... See you all then!

"Official Hard-Core" Brad

[Kurt'sSV]

It's raining pretty good right now, but I think this stuff is going to clear up before tomorrow. So my buddy, Jake, and I will see ya'll tomorrow morning at Ortega.

[bwarbiany]

Just went outside, and saw stars... Very nice :D

Checked Yahoo weather for San Juan Capistrano, Murrieta, Idyllwild, Big Bear Lake, Crestline, Wrightwood, and Pasadena. Shows nothing but Partly Cloudy for tomorrow. All rain should have passed through by tonight.

Again, for those of you who haven't seen it yet, and might still check... Bundle up. It's gonna be chilly up in those mountains when we get some elevation...

Otherwise see y'all in 9 1/2 hrs!!!

Brad

[Kurt'sSV]

Cool, yo. Me and my homie, Jake, will be there tomorrow. Peace out!

[Kurt'sSV]

Hey if anyone's wondering about the weather, it's clear up here in north OC. The rain is moving south and should be gone pretty soon. Don't know how far east it rained, but the roads will dry quick out here.

Maybe GMR will open soon now?

[Sasquatch]

Just wanted to see if everyone made it home OK. Are y'all thawed out yet?

I'm already headin to bed...
:zzz:

[Kurt'sSV]

Yup we made it back okay, but I'm still cold. My brother wasn't mad at all 'cause he know's Jake will get the bike all fixed up for him. Kris got more worked up over his dogs eating his pack of cigaretts than he did his bike being scratched up.

The weather for today's ride sucked huge. Even if Jake and Ward didn't crash it still wan't much fun because I was frozen and scared of crashing. Our dilema with Ward's tire made the whole trip more interesting. But in a perfect world, today would have been dry and sunny and no one crashed. But this world is far from perfect.

[Punkbrad]

WHAT THE FUCK>????

ward went down, your homie crashed your bros new bike...??????? post it up fooooolio.. i want detials!!!!!!! shit Kurt, im sorry, but i been partying and drinkin all night, and now im downright curious ws to what happened... let a brutha know...!!!

[ward]

I was in the back of the pack (bad news, that means theres someone infront of me, people in front of me always wreck) and Jake (kurt's friend) was in front of me. it was a left turn with a guardrail on the outside and only about a foot of shoulder between the lane and the rail. Jake got uncomfortable in the turn and ended up swinging wide and got into the guardrail. I saw this start to happen and my first thought was don't be like punkbrad on out malibu ride and follow the guy in front. (we both ended up wide on a turn and ended up using the bikelane on th eopposite side of the road) O I started to turn the bike towards the yellow line. At first it looked like Jakes bike was going to stay parallel with the guardrail so I calmed down a bit and stopped trying to get towards the yellow line so much, then as I got closer to jakes bike the thing started rotating and coming off the friggin guardrail. by the time I got there the bike was perpendicular to the guardrail and blocking about 90% of the lane. As soon as I figured that I wasn't going to get around the bike I stood mine up and slammed the brakes, for a second I thought I would be ok, but then the front tire slid for the last 6-7 feet and I ended up t-boning jakes bike, givine me a flat front tire, bent bars, nice bar shaped indentation in the tank, scratched up mirrors and turn signals, one of which is bent up at about 45 degrees and now it looks like my bike is waving .

oh yeah and I skinned my kneecap, didn't rip pants or do much besides hurt the ankle a bit. It was fairly low speed byt the time we collided.

[Troy]

ward, glad to hear you're ok. although, give it a few days-injuries from jarring motions take time to surface. when i crashed in latigo with you guys in sept, two days later my back starting aching. as far as your bike goes, what's up? where'd the crash take place, and did you have to tow it far? bent rim or forks? the impact must have been pretty hard for your tire to deflate.

troy

btw, don't ya wish someone had caught you on video so you could see how it happened, frame by frame? to this day i don't know how the left-side heel guard snapped off the footrest bracket.

[Punkbrad]

glad tpo hear that you all are okay..

get some rest and take it easy ward.. you'll get more sore in a few days..

be safe..

Pb.

[DanMan]

Oh crap. Glad you're alright Ward... that sux.

I can't believe how many crashes have happened recently. We sure are a lucky bunch :(

And Ward, if you're going back to your stock bars from the Type 1... I feel your pain. It sux.

[Setter32]

......yikes.........

....that sounds hairy.......

....from the scenario you've described..........sounds to me like you did the right thing Ward......

...you probably minimized the chance of anybody getting badly hurt by slowing her down and standing her up............

Glad to hear everybody walked away ok.......

........

.......sheesh.............haven't you people learned already?..............always let Ward lead............


:D

[Punkbrad]

yes sir setter sir...

Ward needs to be in the front. hes fast, and he will sniff up your ass and let you know it.. just wave him by, even if you're a tad faster, becuase he posseses evil powers that will make you crash if you are in front of him... however, when following him, dont take his lines.. he accidentqally went wide on a decreasing radius turn, and i followed him right into the opposite side of the road, in the bike lane, i think he was trying to kill me... hahaha

be safe out there..

Pb.

[bwarbiany]

I think Ward's just bad luck overall... Luckily Gregg, Jason (telgmanj), Kurt and I were too far ahead of Ward to feel his presence :D

Seriously though, that ride, I think, was probably ill-fated from the start... Gonna have to do that sometime when it's warmer and drier out...

Brad