Beware of scams on CycleTrader

[GTP]

After seeing a CBR 600RR for 4800.00 on CycleTrader.com I quickly called the phone number listed and sent and e-mail. The phone call went unanswered but the e-mail was responded to. Below is his reply to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: j k [mailto:eshop2324@blaiteng.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:01 AM
To: gtp@***.***
Subject: 2003 HONDA CBR 600RR!!

Dear Aaron,
My bike has NEVER been down or dropped. Bike is in
perfect shape. NO ACCIDENTS. NO DENTS. NO SCRATCHES.NO
CRACKS. NO DEMAGE. Kept inside. I do not know any
problems. All service on time.Runs FANTASTIC . BIKE IS
ROAD READY.
The bike is crazy fast and handles like a dream.I will
provide you all the papers you need for the bike !
Please let me inform you that I'm a private seller and
I'm from London ( U.K. ).The shipping will be made
from here .Because it's a long way as a
carrier we can use the UPS ( I have a nice discount
here).The shipping costs will be supported by me.For
this transaction I'm willing to use an escrow
service.This is a 3th part service. They will protect
your money and my bike.You will have to make the
payment for them. They will keep your money in their
custody till you will receive and inspect the bike.
The service is Autotradesecure ( it's safety, cheap
and fast ). I'm sure we can proceed this way. You will
find more info about the service here :
www.autotradesecure.com
Thank you for your prompt respond and great efforts
!!!





After doing a little investigative work here's my response to him.

Hello Joseph,

Before I forward your information to the authorities I'd just like to explain how incredibly stupid you are.

First mistake:
Listing a cell phone number to someone who never picks up or returns phone calls. The cell phone is registered to a AT&T wireless customer that does not match your name.

Second mistake:
Wanting to use a third party escrow service that’s not real.

Lets take a look at some things here.

First your e-mail address and display name.

J k eshop2324@blaiteng.net

The domain blaiteng.net domain forwards to a simple and lame geocities website registered though Yahoo domains.

Third mistake: The autotradesecure.com domain.

The contact page is unavailable. What kind of business do you think has international transactions and has a down contact page? Not likely. The "History" partition of the website claims it was started in 2000 yet the website according to Network Solutions has only been active since Aug 3rd. And the website is registered with a contact address of business@best-e-shop.com

Fourth mistake: The best-e-shop.com domain has another lame geocities redirect to of all things, Ebay.

Seeing your e-mail address like I mentioned above "eshop2324" it wasn't surprising to lookup that domain and find it registered to none other than YOU!

Organisation Name.... Joseph Kispo
Organisation Address. 3485 Creek Drive
Organisation Address. Douglasville
Organisation Address. 30135
Organisation Address. GA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Pack your bags and close shop Joseph. Your day is done. This e-mail as well as all documentation has been forwarded to Cycle Trader, Yahoo, FBI High Technology crimes div and my local authorities.

Have a nice day

P.S. That was me who just called you on your phone and asked if Joe was around, thanks for confirming your name with me it made my day. You're also unlucky enough to live close to a relative of mine in the Armed Services in Douglasville. Shall I send him a knockin?

Aaron Lephart



Just a heads up for people who might have been lured to this type of scam.

[BluBallz]

NICE detective work, im curious to see how you did all this stuff...

[license2ill]

On top of that, shipped UPS?

I don't think they'll ship anything over 150lbs.

Can't get the smile off my face thinking about that guy shitting his pants.

[JesseJames]

Very nice work!

[kc1717]

very ver nice work

you should search for aprilia mille R

i saw one for 6000 buy it now on ebay.

and you know that a mint mille R with 300 miles does not go for 6000.

i emailed the guy and he said i can pay pal him the money and he will ship the bike when he gets back from over seas.


i really hope no one falls for these type of scams, but way to go on following up on that guy

[illustr8dman]

Thank you Aaron.

[rebelman]

Did this loser have anything to say after you presented him with all of this information?

[vipman]

Good job, a nice reminder for peeps buying online to do some homework.

[Knightshade]

very nice work!!! I would have liked to had a video or something of him reading your email.

Idiot getting caught in his hare brained scam: Priceless.

[Rocko]

you da man!!!!!!!!!!

[Karter18]

I had a similar experience for an Aprilia Tuono Racing for $8,000. the guy would only communicate by email because he said he had a hearing problem.

Said it was his brothers bike located in San Diego and he lived in Seattle and would fly down to meet to do the transaction if I deposited $1,500 into a third party escrow site with me as both the payee and also making the payment.

I repeatly asked for a VIN as he told me it had clear title but he avoided the question so I dropped contacting him.

Nice investegative work on your part and I hope your friend brings a few buddies and has a blanket party with the ripoff artist!

[madmakr]

GOOD JOB Aaron!!

This is a big scam I have seen many times on E-Bay. Fake escrow companies. Dirty scumbags!! Great detective work GTP!

[Indy]

[MadPete]

That was hilarious!

Good job man. It's always a great feeling to hear someone screw over idiots like that. Now can you find the bastards that keep sending me spam mail!!!

[dnakase]

Uh, so how would you go about setting up a more fool proof sca... operation? Hypotheticly of course.